Who do you feel was a better technical wrestler: Farooq vs. Owen Hart

[E-Burna 2000]

I was tossing and turning last night wondering where I was going to head with my wrestling history class I'm teaching at the local college. I wanted to pose a topic that would challenge my students, but not too overwhelm them. I think I'm going to go with this subject, and thought maybe you guys here would enjoy discussing this as well.

Who do you feel was a better 'technical' wrestler, Farooq or Owen Hart.

Farooq was always known as being a brawler. Much like Stone Cold Steve Austin, Farooq's technical skill was often overlooked. He, like many other 'big' men ('Taker comes to mind) are often pushed as brawlers simply because of their size. It's what sells, but it also doesn't mean these guys can't get away from their brawling tactics and put on one hell of a technical wrestling match. I felt when Clarence Mason was leading Farooq, he often would put on very skillful matches. Thoughts?

Owen Hart tragically was taken from us too soon. We all remember him being a great dad and a comedian backstage. Owen wasn't just a high flyer however, he was a great mat technician. Does anyone remember Owen winning the King of the Ring to become the "King of Hearts"? This guy was trained in the dungeon for crying out loud! Thoughts?

Yes, it's easy to label Farooq as a brawler, and Owen as a high flyer, but part of being a Wrestling Historian, like I've stated many times, is to think outside of the box. That's what I'm encouraging you all (as well as my students) to do with subjects like these. I think we can get some very insightful discussions going with good wrestling topics like this. I'm all for the occasional comedy topic as well (just like in professional wrestling, I think it has its place) but I also really enjoy getting down to the nitty gritty and talking about wrestling the way it was meant to be.

[lionheart21]

Owen by a long shot.

[JUSA]

How ****ing stupid. This guy is slowly ruining this forum, which is a shame.

[Alex Cooper]

As much respect as I have for Ron Simmons and Owen Hart, I must say that E-Burna is a troll still.

[animal2b]

I was tossing and turning last night wondering where I was going to head with my wrestling history class I'm teaching at the local college.

Is this for real or have too many hours sitting in front of a computer screen pondering ridiculous poll questions caused some slight drain bamage?

HOWEVER, burna does raise a good point. Big guys are classically misbooked as brawlers when in fact they can do some great mat wrestling. Cena can - but besdies his STFU, he doesn't really *show* what he can do. The WWE is a wrestling promotion, right? So why don't they let their dudes wrestle? Cena could be a great mat technician, but no no no, its easier to market clotheslines and FU's.

Simmons was always a favorite of mine, but I don't think he's on Owen Hart's level. I'd like to watch some old wrestling tapes of Simmons to see how he moved when he was younger, though.

[E-Burna 2000]

Is this for real or have too many hours sitting in front of a computer screen pondering ridiculous poll questions caused some slight drain bamage?

animal2b, u seem pretty cool most of the time. Seriously though, do some research on a subject before you jump to conclusions. I normally respect everything you have to say about wrestling, please just show me the same courtesy.

For you guys that just want to flame rather than actually make a good discussion, why not try contributing to the topic, instead of flaming and (ironically) being guilty of the same thing you're accusing me of "slowly killing this board". If you don't like a thread, just don't post. If you feel you can contribute, than do so!

[One Man Army]

You know what he is..a wrestling TROLLLL. He thinks Goldberg is the greatest ever. He thinks David Flair is the next great thing and he thinks Ron Simmos is a great technical wrestler. Next he will say that Giant Gonzales was the most underrated wrestler ever. And he probably isnt a real wrestling historian(are there even such things) and doesnt teach at a college and if he did it would be a run down community college.

[Marv]

I was tossing and turning last night wondering where I was going to head with my wrestling history class I'm teaching at the local college. I wanted to pose a topic that would challenge my students, but not too overwhelm them. I think I'm going to go with this subject, and thought maybe you guys here would enjoy discussing this as well.

lmao on so many levels right now

[sugarface]

Owen is many times better in the ring. On the gridiron Simmons would own him.

[animal2b]

animal2b, u seem pretty cool most of the time. Seriously though, do some research on a subject before you jump to conclusions. I normally respect everything you have to say about wrestling, please just show me the same courtesy.

I am pretty cool. Burna entertains me.

[mistermuscles]

Watch WWF Badd Blood 97'. They have Owen vs Farrooq in an IC Title match.

Owen out-wrestles Ron by a LONG SHOT.

Owen wins this one, no contest.

[E-Burna 2000]

I am pretty cool. Burna entertains me.

I'm glad I can be some use to you, lol. Seriously though, back in the day I've admitted I went overboard at times, but since bpp allowed a truce w/everyone, I haven't flamed once, and I also make sure I stay on topic. My posts are often controversial, but they are always on point. I really do research most of the stuff I work on for the sites I post at. Some places actually pay me if you can believe it or not! I've worked in the business and have a great deal of knowledge/respect for the industry.

[go rila]

Owen by a long shot.

*nods head aprovingly(sp)*

[HulkHagen]

Faarooq was a good wrestler before his back started giving him problems, but still nowhere as good a technical wrestler as Owen Hart. IMO Faarooq could've been a solid WWF champion if booked right when he was younger, and Owen probably would've been a world champ at some point as well.

[bubbleboy_619]

Owen Hart all the way man.

Rest In Peace, Owen.

[blackout2004]

i miss owen ....i started watchin wwf when bret was takin a break after WM12 and turnin heel, so i have seen more matches of owen

[Bignbuff]

How ****ing stupid. This guy is slowly ruining this forum, which is a shame.

Please take the next 3 weeks to learn not to insult members in the middle of threads. This is against the rules.

[sugarface]

Faarooq was a good wrestler before his back started giving him problems, but still nowhere as good a technical wrestler as Owen Hart. IMO Faarooq could've been a solid WWF champion if booked right when he was younger, and Owen probably would've been a world champ at some point as well.

Agreed. I think Ron Simmons was very good back in the day.

Owen SHOULD have been champ. Just one more guy the Kliq squashed.

[E-Burna 2000]

Faarooq was a good wrestler before his back started giving him problems, but still nowhere as good a technical wrestler as Owen Hart. IMO Faarooq could've been a solid WWF champion if booked right when he was younger, and Owen probably would've been a world champ at some point as well.

I can respect that opinion. Good post. Glad to see a solid post and not just flaming. Very good assesment.

[WolverineGuy]

I've never considered Simmons just a brawler...to me brawler is nothing more than punches, kicks, and clotheslines. He definitely relied on power moves, which obviously played to his size. But head to head, mat skills alone vs. Owen...Owen was probably one of the greatest all around wrestlers ever. Great high flyer, great mat technician, great personality and promos. Owen wins.

[Gradman]

I was tossing and turning last night wondering where I was going to head with my wrestling history class I'm teaching at the local college.

That's pretty cool, what college? And what's the syllabus? I guess being a college it has a website for it's students, what's the addy? Wouldn't mind checking that out.

[WolverineGuy]

That's pretty cool, what college? And what's the syllabus? I guess being a college it has a website for it's students, what's the addy? Wouldn't mind checking that out.

heh...I was going to do that, but I was being nice.

[Jows073]

How ****ing stupid. This guy is slowly ruining this forum, which is a shame.

I know it's ridicolous. This guy has created more poll thread in the last month than I have in a year and half.

Anyway Owen Hart was better than Farooq IMO.
I really don't see the purpose to this thread. The two are on different levels in terms of ability, (not that Farooq was a bad wrestler), but how you came to the conclusion to compare these two wrestlers is beyond me.

[E-Burna 2000]

I know it's ridicolous. This guy has created more poll thread in the last month than I have in a year and half.

Anyway Owen Hart was better than Farooq IMO.
I really don't see the purpose to this thread. The two are on different levels in terms of ability, (not that Farooq was a bad wrestler), but how you came to the conclusion to compare these two wrestlers is beyond me.

Jows073, I have no problem w/you. Please lets get along. We don't need anymore bannings here. I want everyone to be able to get along. Why do you care if I make my posts w/a poll or not? You don't have to vote if you don't want to. Why does it bother you? Really have no idea what your answer could be. If you'd rather pm me, that would be fine as well.

I just like to make people think, and for some reason Farooq being a known brawler, but a good wrestler, and Owen being a known high-flyer, but another good 'wrester' struck me as interesting. W/the exception of the early flaming posts, this thread is decent. Not as much debate as I woulda liked, but considering the first few posts were all flaming, I guess that kinda killed it.

[Gradman]

heh...I was going to do that, but I was being nice.

I was being serious! It sounds awesome, I've never known pop culture courses of that specificity to exist, it's pretty cool.

Burna, you got a link I can have a look at? How did you land the gig teaching them also? It'd be a pretty sweet course, how long you been doing that for?

[Marv]

I really do research most of the stuff I work on for the sites I post at. Some places actually pay me if you can believe it or not! I've worked in the business and have a great deal of knowledge/respect for the industry.

What places pay you for your work in the wrestling field besides the local college?

I too am interested in seeing the syllabus for that (and I'm being dead serious).

[E-Burna 2000]

What places pay you for your work in the wrestling field besides the local college?

I too am interested in seeing the syllabus for that (and I'm being dead serious).

As far as places that pay me for my work in the wrestling field, I often times do commentary as well as ring announcing. Some other websites pay me to contribute articles periodically as well.

I really don't want to give out too much info here. I think you can understand considering normally you flame me up and down, and it really wouldn't look very professional if you decided to try and cause trouble in my personal life. Here is one thing, but my career is another... Hopefully you can understand. Some of the guys here know more about my career, but they're guys I can trust, and it's not put out there for everyone to see.

[Marv]

As far as places that pay me for my work in the wrestling field, I often times do commentary as well as ring announcing. Some other websites pay me to contribute articles periodically as well.

I really don't want to give out too much info here. I think you can understand considering normally you flame me up and down, and it really wouldn't look very professional if you decided to try and cause trouble in my personal life. Here is one thing, but my career is another... Hopefully you can understand. Some of the guys here know more about my career, but they're guys I can trust, and it's not put out there for everyone to see.

Yep, that's the answer I figured we'd all get.

[HardGainer82]

Yep, that's the answer I figured we'd all get.

Yeah, god knows no one wants people messing in their personal lives, like making lame Yahoo websites about them or something like that. Then again, a website like that falls pretty flat when you don't have anything more than a screen name to work with, eh?

[Marv]

Yeah, god knows no one wants people messing in their personal lives, like making lame Yahoo websites about them or something like that. Then again, a website like that falls pretty flat when you don't have anything more than a screen name to work with, eh?

Haha, yeah, I was thinking the same thing.