Finally someone knows what they are talking about!

**jcosley** · 02-05-2008, 09:16 AM

http://health.msn.com/fitness/articl...l_6011.20.5.59

MSN article....for once an expert says YOU CANT SPOT REDUCE by doing ab exercises. I was shocked to actually here that and not have them saying...well do so and so lifts and they will go away.

**Jeudrietr** · 02-05-2008, 09:20 AM

I've never seen an expert say otherwise. The ones saying you can are the people trying to sell ab workout equipment on infomercials.

**phoenixr2** · 02-05-2008, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Jeudrietr

I've never seen an expert say otherwise. The ones saying you can are the people trying to sell ab workout equipment on infomercials.

you mean like they have an ulterior motive? that is absurd

yeah, from what I have heard, and read, and seen from people I would consider well educated, its just not possible. even from my own experience I would agree that spot reducing, is just not possible.

edit* I went back and re-read your post, then read the link. I read your post too fast and thought you said that experts were saying you "CAN" spot reduce, however, I was wrong. You said the expert said you "CANT" spot reduce, which is what I was stating and agree with. my fault ill read carefully and slowly next time :X

**Criollo** · 02-05-2008, 10:53 AM

I'v heard this all over the place but it was still a decent read

**in10city** · 02-05-2008, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by jcosley

http://health.msn.com/fitness/articl...l_6011.20.5.59

MSN article....for once an expert says YOU CANT SPOT REDUCE by doing ab exercises. I was shocked to actually here that and not have them saying...well do so and so lifts and they will go away.

Sure you can spot reduce - it's just that 99.99% of people will never get to the level of BF where the micro-effects are noticable.

**-Aaron-** · 02-05-2008, 11:03 AM

Spot reducing isn't a myth...

**phoenixr2** · 02-05-2008, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by -Aaron-

Spot reducing isn't a myth...

got me, I'll bite. Aaron, explain your comment! Even if it is possible, I don't think I would be for it. I would rather lose the fat slowly, over my whole body as it sees appropriate than try to target my worst areas. Maybe that is just me though. Aaron, feel free to start another thread if you want to, but I am interested in your standpoint.

**-Aaron-** · 02-05-2008, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by phoenixr2

got me, I'll bite. Aaron, explain your comment! Even if it is possible, I don't think I would be for it. I would rather lose the fat slowly, over my whole body as it sees appropriate than try to target my worst areas. Maybe that is just me though. Aaron, feel free to start another thread if you want to, but I am interested in your standpoint.

Napalm is a product by Avant Research that I've both tried and endorse.

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/article...topicalfatloss

Research on topical-fat loss.

**phoenixr2** · 02-05-2008, 11:42 AM

aaron,
good read. I think I managed to stay with most of it and grasp most of the ideas of the research.

on a more personal note, can you explain your hands on experience with the product (Napalm). What exactly did you notice with the product, what did it help, why are you recommending it? I mean, I can guess, and have an idea, but I want your tried opinion and experiences rather than my guesses. Hopefully the OP does not mind, if he does, I can start another thread. Thanks in advance.

**jcosley** · 02-05-2008, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by phoenixr2

aaron,
good read. I think I managed to stay with most of it and grasp most of the ideas of the research.

on a more personal note, can you explain your hands on experience with the product (Napalm). What exactly did you notice with the product, what did it help, why are you recommending it? I mean, I can guess, and have an idea, but I want your tried opinion and experiences rather than my guesses. Hopefully the OP does not mind, if he does, I can start another thread. Thanks in advance.

X2 - I would like his input on this...because I was thinking about using it the month before my mexico trip in april.

**-Aaron-** · 02-05-2008, 01:33 PM

Sorry guys, went to the gym for the second time today.

What exactly do you want to know? It reduced fat in my midsection by making it ready for oxidation. I went from 11.5%-9.8% bodyfat... That's right gents, I'm below 10.

**jcosley** · 02-05-2008, 01:36 PM

Getting it ready for oxidation? So that means you have to still workout pretty intense to get it burnt off still. You cant just be a couch potato and throw the stuff on and expect it to burn fat off obviously....correct?

**-Aaron-** · 02-05-2008, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Getting it ready for oxidation? So that means you have to still workout pretty intense to get it burnt off still. You cant just be a couch potato and throw the stuff on and expect it to burn fat off obviously....correct?

Correct.

In simplistic terms, it gets the fat ready for mobilization at that specific area.

Hence, spot reduction.

**jcosley** · 02-05-2008, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by -Aaron-

Correct.

In simplistic terms, it gets the fat ready for mobilization at that specific area.

Hence, spot reduction.

Sweet. Well I was thinking of doing 2 a days the entire month before my vacation in april and was thinking about getting that stuff and trying it out. I just really want any extra belly fat, ass, chest fat gone...or any help I can get.

**-Aaron-** · 02-05-2008, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by jcosley

Sweet. Well I was thinking of doing 2 a days the entire month before my vacation in april and was thinking about getting that stuff and trying it out. I just really want any extra belly fat, ass, chest fat gone...or any help I can get.

Well you know me, I rarely recommend products here, but this stuff works. Just avoid sensitive areas, such as your face.

**jcosley** · 02-05-2008, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by -Aaron-

Well you know me, I rarely recommend products here, but this stuff works. Just avoid sensitive areas, such as your face.

Thanks Aaron! Wonder when bb.com is going to get this stuff back in?

EDIT: OH NEVERMIND! Looks like bb.com does have it in now!

**mpipes** · 02-05-2008, 03:23 PM

There's another good link buried within that article, talking about low intensity versus higher intensity cardio. Hot damn, an expert in a mainstream media outlet actually saying you gotta bust a little tail to get the results you want.

She must hang out with bodybuilders.

**Stay Puft** · 02-06-2008, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by phoenixr2

aaron,
good read. I think I managed to stay with most of it and grasp most of the ideas of the research.

on a more personal note, can you explain your hands on experience with the product (Napalm).

Hey phoenix, just wanted to point you towards some more information and feedback regarding Napalm.

Check out this thread for tons of logs, an FAQ and more: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5591481

You can also found the fully cited and researched write-up on our homepage. This is pretty science heavy, so don't hesitate to ask for clarification or the like. http://www.avantresearch.com/products/napalm/research

Cheers.

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