Name a "conspiracy" that you believe is true

[res7426]

Had to post up this list, it describes the people in this thread very well:

10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists

A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.

2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.

8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's ?happened before?.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.

10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.

A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.

Taken from: http://www.urban75.org/info/conspiraloons.html

[C Project]

I don't really know what to believe with this illuminati/NWO thing, but I have a co-worker who believes some real far out ****!

1. The british royal family are reptilians
2. There are aliens living in the center of the earth
3. We aren't really even here, we are all just "vibrations"
4. We are all food for another species?
5. There is a large net around earth/moon/mars

This is some of the crazy **** I have to hear at work.

That is awesome. I would love to work with that guy.

[C Project]

10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists

1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.

2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.

3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.

8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's ?happened before?.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.

10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.

A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.

That is EPIC! One of the coolest things I have ever read. Lol.

[ChicagoCubz]

Santa

[B.O.L.A.]

Lunar Landing (staged to "defeat" communism)
JFK (there were 1301 shooters, none were LHO)
Global Warming (I was FREEZING on my way to class today, crazy environmentalists!)
9/11 (done by GWB so he could invade Iraq and become sooooo popular)
Evolution (staged by the dinosaur museums and film industry!)
The Holocaust (never happened, those were summer camp doorms and pizza ovens)
Paul McCartney (dead since 1966...quite obvious really)
UFOs (everywhere!)
The Earth is flat (looks flat to me...)

[PatrickDurden]

One interesting thing that the moon hoax video I watched brought up was the Van Allen Radiation Belts, I never heard of them before that.

[user5145]

Lunar Landing (staged to "defeat" communism)
JFK (there were 1301 shooters, none were LHO)
Global Warming (I was FREEZING on my way to class today, crazy environmentalists!)
9/11 (done by GWB so he could invade Iraq and become sooooo popular)
Evolution (staged by the dinosaur museums and film industry!)
The Holocaust (never happened, those were summer camp doorms and pizza ovens)
Paul McCartney (dead since 1966...quite obvious really)
UFOs (everywhere!)
The Earth is flat (looks flat to me...)

LOL. If there was any doubt as to whether you were kidding or not, the 'pizza ovens' and '1301 shooters' really confirmed it.

[Ajulaks]

OMFG. Don't they have common sense in Estonia?

Yes we do. Its a blessing and a curse

[BMatt]

Lunar Landing (staged to "defeat" communism)
JFK (there were 1301 shooters, none were LHO)
Global Warming (I was FREEZING on my way to class today, crazy environmentalists!)
9/11 (done by GWB so he could invade Iraq and become sooooo popular)
Evolution (staged by the dinosaur museums and film industry!)
The Holocaust (never happened, those were summer camp doorms and pizza ovens)
Paul McCartney (dead since 1966...quite obvious really)
UFOs (everywhere!)
The Earth is flat (looks flat to me...)

Wtf... you Neg me for having my own opinion? Wow dude.. I'm not the only person that said 9/11 you douche bag.

[Douche100]

LECTER being the gay porn troll. 100% fact.

[KellerLB]

AIDS was invented by the US government to control the rapidly increasing population of Africa... When created there was an Anti-Virus but it was so powerful each time it spreads it mutates and the anti-virus is useless...

I wrote a song about it called Population its Heavy Punk like the old Exploited stuff...

[YuMadThough]

I believe we landed on the moon because theres a laser on earth that bounces off mirrors on the moons surface and that wouldnt be possible if someone didn't put them up there.
Although theres very strong evidence to show we didnt.

[jehst]

AIDS was invented by the US government to control the rapidly increasing population of Africa... When created there was an Anti-Virus but it was so powerful each time it spreads it mutates and the anti-virus is useless...

I wrote a song about it called Population its Heavy Punk like the old Exploited stuff...

what are the facts behind this theory?

[user4165146510]

I believe that Scientology is a cult that was started to make money off sheeple.

as well as the rest of organized religions.

[jehst]

as well as the rest of organized religions.

not quite, the major religions provided benefits to both leaders and followers.

[kyokushin1]

what are the facts behind this theory?

Dude he wrote and a song about it, and he's 16 ffs! He doesn't need facts.

[Vheissu]

NO products

haha, pretty funny

[f1nch]

the post about we are all vibrations is not a "conspiricy" its science (quantun physics).

all matter in the universe vibrates like a a trillion^100000 molecular dildos.

[danny987]

lol at people saying 9/11 was an inside job because they think there may have been bombs in the WTC. terrorist have exploded bombs in the WTC before, why not then?

[Curtiz]

2pac son

[LECTER]

LECTER being the gay porn troll. 100% fact.

Choo-choo?

[OrdoAbchao]

Hot girls don't poo, but if they did it would smell like roses.

[Mohd. Tarkan]

Things I believe:

We've never been to the moon.

The Egyptians didn't build the pyramids.

There's no such thing as the NWO.

David Icke is full of ****.

Aliens exist and have visited this planet.

A UFO crashed at Roswell.

Humans didn't evolve from monkeys.

The US Government was NOT behind 9/11


Well, that's a few anyway.

who build the pyramids then?

[jehst]

Here's another one:

There are people who control this world as if it was an RTS - as if they were playing chess. These elite families are constantly scheming on ways to divide, control, and milk the masses while continuing to expand their influence and compete with other ruling families.

Their activities include propaganda, inside jobs, war, assassinations, and any other Machiavellian tactics at their disposal with which they can use to accomplish their aims. While it is impossible to know whether 9/11 and our subsequent activity in the Middle East was such a power-play by these behind-the-scenes players, it would be naive to rule it out.

[wgw323t]

The voting system is fraud, it does not matter who you vote for, The cock suckers decides who stays in office and who doesn't. The democratic party and the Republican party all are made up, there is no such thing.

9/11 was done by the government, enough said. thats a no brainer. even an idiot gets that.

Osama is dead.

i lol at people who still believe in the lies the government tells them.

The media is responsible for of spreading propaganda. again no brainer.

CIA commits the majority of crimes. nobody gives a ****.

The Government controls the public by materialism. They feed the public, they know will keep them away from knowing the truth

Money is made to control humans.

there is afterlife.

All the major religions of the world have some truth to them. Only the idiots who are blinded by materialism do not believe in God.

Infinite Love is the Only Truth, Everything Else is illusion, man made.

[jehst]

Infinite Love is the Only Truth, Everything Else is illusion, man made.

Oppositely, you can argue that it is love that is the man-made illusion and that eternal warfare is the true expression of life and evolution.

[cupcakekid]

I believe

- 9/11 was known by the government well in advance, and a few powerful people purposefully did nothing to prevent it while gaining millions/billions financially
- bush-binladen family ties have forever sealed osamas fate (that is he will never be caught)
- Aliens have visited earth in the last century. roswell = true.
- elections are fixed
- my vote doesnt matter
- Evolution is a load of ****. do not want.

[kalagan]

I believe

- 9/11 was known by the government well in advance, and a few powerful people purposefully did nothing to prevent it while gaining millions/billions financially

- bush-binladen family ties have forever sealed osamas fate (that is he will never be caught)

Dude, this two aren't a myth. That's the true. There's a lot of proves (sp ?).

[Immichaelski]

i believe that america is just a giant sociology experiment of the world. Thats why we are allowed to drink and smoke but not do healthy things. Many other reasons as well, Im just too tired.

[Douche100]

Choo-choo?

Did you run and tell on me? CRY?

I believe calling for neg trains is against the rules. A wannabe mod like yourself should know this.

Lecter told me he would appreciate if these comments against him weren't made.

And I would appreciate it if he didn't neg me every time he comes across my name. He even visits my bodyspace to search for a post of mine to neg. But hey, what are you going to do but live with it.