Heavy metal toxicity

resurrected · 02-02-2008, 05:49 PM

Does anyone here worry about heavy metal build up in thier bodies? Lately I have been wondering about it due to my occupation and past carreers. I was around aluminum, mercury, asbestos, basicly everything. I feel sluggish most of the time lately. I wonder if there is any truth to this?
I was considering using natural chelated supplements to try to combat it. Does anyone else here use stuff for this? What do you use?

PROT · 02-02-2008, 07:28 PM

The EDTA is supposed to remove most heavy metals except aluminum , which the malic acid removes...supposedly. I believe its worth trying but you must take a good mineral supplement with it...at least two hours after taking the EDTA.

In addition I follow an anti fungal regimen for cleansing as I believe fungus, yeasts, and molds aggravate environmental assaults. I avoid most complex carbs and sugar and use oil of Oregano, aged garlic, and a good probiotic.

lukamar · 02-02-2008, 07:30 PM

If this worries you then you should talk to your doc and have some tests done. I don't have any idea about supplements for this but I would think they wouldn't work if you actually had a concentration of something. I used to feel sluggish to and they found a Thyroid problem and now I'm Okay. Just my 2C.

joed · 02-02-2008, 07:52 PM

I agree with both posters. The doc can run tests to see what's up, then chelation therapy may be indicated. But if you don't want to go that route, edta (chelation but in less controlled & measurable conditions) & also charcoal tablets from your pharmacy should absorb a lot of the bad stuff that may be there. But it's a total absorption, good & bad stuff, so take your vit/mineral supps if that's how you go. Personally, I'd see the doc to be sure of what's happening; they've dealt with this before.

PROT · 02-02-2008, 10:08 PM

so going to the doctor is a waste of time. They wont take you seriously and they wont help you because they dont know how. Bone tests are accurate but not likely to be done. Heavy metals settle into organs and bone rapidly and are released years later sometimes. Chelation therapy strips them out along with calcium deposits in the arteries. We all have higher lead concentrations if we were living before lead was removed from gasoline in the 70's. Thats why its called "unleaded".

Your problems could be caused by something else but doctors rarely "know the cause" so even if they find something it may not be whats causing health problems. http://www.know-the-cause.com/

bgnb · 02-02-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by joed

charcoal tablets from your pharmacy should absorb a lot of the bad stuff that may be there.

only if he swallowed the stuff about an hour ago ...

otherwise, charcoal will just block the absorption of nutrients
and shouldn't be taken regularly.

BTW: most heavy metals end up in fat ... its why they show up
in breast milk ...

the other fave spot is in the prostate ... regularly 'emptying' yours
can help keep things healthy.

chelation can be done if you get tested for metals ... remind your
doctor that you were exposed through employment and if he doesn't
want to pursue it get a referral ...

ntrllftr · 02-02-2008, 10:57 PM

I have worked in metal stamping, aluminum die casting manufacturing environment for the past 18 years or so but never had those worries.

you probably have a bug or something. take some vitamin C and some other multi vitamins it might help a little.

dbrunner00 · 02-03-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by resurrected

Does anyone here worry about heavy metal build up in thier bodies? Lately I have been wondering about it due to my occupation and past carreers. I was around aluminum, mercury, asbestos, basicly everything. I feel sluggish most of the time lately. I wonder if there is any truth to this?
I was considering using natural chelated supplements to try to combat it. Does anyone else here use stuff for this? What do you use?

As far as I know, chelation is pretty much a myth. However, heavy metal poisoning does have a lot of symptoms. The only real way to verify is to have tests ran. Usually they run them on hair and fingernail samples. Arsenic will leave a white band on the base of your fingernails. Take a look at this site, it gives some real information:

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-...prtcl-156.html

I worked in the Semiconductor industry for about 18 years. I used to work with some real nasties. These included Aresenic, Arsine, Phosphine, Silane and all sorts of liquid acids and bases.

weiss1967 · 02-03-2008, 01:15 AM

since when aluminium has became heavy element. Its easily oxidised and react promptly, there is no way anybody can suffer long term effects from aluminium, unless administration is regular and profound. Regarding heavy elements - laymans cleansing method is getting alcohol-poisoned once in a while. In other words getting seriously drunk (wasted, ****faced etc) a few times a year. Sure you can laugh it off, but the way I see it - its good and its also good for you.

Tallho · 02-03-2008, 05:14 AM

Seen a commercial about some chinese detox.They put this bandage on their feet and over night itcleans away toxins,looks dirty in the morning .Do that for about two weeksand your body has washed away the toxins.But you can take that for what it is.

JChristian_1 · 02-03-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by weiss1967

since when aluminium has became heavy element. Its easily oxidised and react promptly, there is no way anybody can suffer long term effects from aluminium, unless administration is regular and profound. Regarding heavy elements - laymans cleansing method is getting alcohol-poisoned once in a while. In other words getting seriously drunk (wasted, ****faced etc) a few times a year. Sure you can laugh it off, but the way I see it - its good and its also good for you.

I feel so much better... went to a party last night and before I knew it I had consumed a fair amount of Vodka, with a little Orange juice..It wasn't a carb day

as for the Metals... it is a serious issue and has everything to do with levels of exposure over time. Different compounds hide in different places as mentioned, the prostate, Fatty stores, Liver, Kidney's and Bone... but other areas to consider and also would cause some of your symptoms is the thyroid... http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C15891.html... Nervous system, Heart. Depending on exposure it can reek havoc.. but before you get to worked up.. how long have you been feeling like this? and is it getting worse staying the same.. have you had recent spike in these feelings?
I agree MD's won't take you seriously if you walk in and tell them what your worries are, rather.. research it and go in asking for specific tests.. at the very least they'll know that you have n idea already what is going on and will likely take it more seriously... could be a cold or Flu ?

resurrected · 02-03-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by weiss1967

since when aluminium has became heavy element. Its easily oxidised and react promptly, there is no way anybody can suffer long term effects from aluminium, unless administration is regular and profound. Regarding heavy elements - laymans cleansing method is getting alcohol-poisoned once in a while. In other words getting seriously drunk (wasted, ****faced etc) a few times a year. Sure you can laugh it off, but the way I see it - its good and its also good for you.

Perhaps so, but aluminum is also indicated in alzhiemers. So in my opinion it shold be avoided and treated like a heavy metal. I try not to use anything with aluminm any longer.
As for the rest, docs around here are idiots for the most part. I go to a doc he does little other than treat the symptom and does not look for the cause. There fore I search for the cause and attempt to treat it myself.
I do use oil of oregano sometimes. But in liqiud cap form, the stuff is awful!
I was also wondering about capsacin(sp) it supposedly works great for clearing the body of stuff.
As for alcohol, I have a few drinks Friday and saturday evenings, but gave it up the rest of the week.

IR45N · 02-03-2008, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by weiss1967

laymans cleansing method is getting alcohol-poisoned once in a while. In other words getting seriously drunk (wasted, ****faced etc) a few times a year. Sure you can laugh it off, but the way I see it - its good and its also good for you.

Reminds me of the old joke; a minister is doing a Sunday school lesson on the evils of drink. The minister has two glasses; one full of water and the other full of gin. He puts a worm in each glass. The worm in the water is just swimming around. The worm in the gin whips around and dies.

Minister asks; 'Now, what can we learn from this?'.

Kid pipes up; 'If you drink you won't have worms.'.

Told you it was old.

(sorry for the thread hijack).

PROT · 02-03-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by resurrected

Perhaps so, but aluminum is also indicated in alzhiemers. So in my opinion it shold be avoided and treated like a heavy metal. I try not to use anything with aluminm any longer.
As for the rest, docs around here are idiots for the most part. I go to a doc he does little other than treat the symptom and does not look for the cause. There fore I search for the cause and attempt to treat it myself.
I do use oil of oregano sometimes. But in liqiud cap form, the stuff is awful!
I was also wondering about capsacin(sp) it supposedly works great for clearing the body of stuff.
As for alcohol, I have a few drinks Friday and saturday evenings, but gave it up the rest of the week.

Just google them and look for the best deal. I take oil of Oregano in capsules, also as you are right about the drops. However, the oil of Oregano is effective with an antifungal/yeast diet...avoiding alcohol(a mycotoxin), corn and other grains, potatoes, and peanuts. These things contain fungal poisons or fungi themselves.

Heavy metals concentrate in the kidneys and other organs and can cause damage years later.

Barry Bonds · 02-03-2008, 09:28 AM

due to a family history of Alzheimers, and 30 years in the automotive business.

Negative.

But it sure helped my peace of mind.

resurrected · 02-03-2008, 10:32 AM

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-156.shtml

good link on this if anyone is interested.

My whole concern is I have spent roughly 25 Years in the auto industry with lead and oils penetrating my skin. Breathing in asbestos from brakes and clutches. Then off to owrkin gin the building industry with PCBs and lead, etc.