Buddies next cycle..SERIOUS

Gorilla34 · 02-02-2008, 11:29 AM

Ok, you guys know me, I'm not saying it's for a friend when it's really for me.

Anyway, his stats
27 yrs old
5'10" ~210#, ~11% bf.
Previous cycles : 1 real (test-tren)....couple of pro-hormones back in the day. Admittingly he didn't really know what he took, just took what some other guy told him too.

He wants lean mass and is looking at test/tren again. Ran tren before without many sides. He only has tren-a available but can get test e or p. He obviously has to pin EOD while on tren a, but if he wants to run a 10-12 week total cycle what would be the issue with running test e so he can cut back to twice a week after the tren? I don't see any issue with that but want to make sure I'm not missing something obvious since I'm no tren guru. Most cycles I see with tren a use test p since they are both short esters but they are usually short cycles as well. Here are the two options I am thinking about

1-12 test e 300-500mg/wk (thoughts on dose here?)
1-6 (or 8?) tren a 75mg EOD
Proper PCT of course

or

1-8 test p 100-150 mg EOD (thoughts on dose here?)
1-6 tren a 75 mg EOD
PCT

What would you boys recommend? I want to make sure not to lead him astray. Thanks for the thoughts in advance.

Simon85 · 02-02-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorilla34

Ok, you guys know me, I'm not saying it's for a friend when it's really for me.

Anyway, his stats
27 yrs old
5'10" ~210#, ~11% bf.
Previous cycles : 1 real (test-tren)....couple of pro-hormones back in the day. Admittingly he didn't really know what he took, just took what some other guy told him too.

He wants lean mass and is looking at test/tren again. Ran tren before without many sides. He only has tren-a available but can get test e or p. He obviously has to pin EOD while on tren a, but if he wants to run a 10-12 week total cycle what would be the issue with running test e so he can cut back to twice a week after the tren? I don't see any issue with that but want to make sure I'm not missing something obvious since I'm no tren guru. Most cycles I see with tren a use test p since they are both short esters but they are usually short cycles as well. Here are the two options I am thinking about

1-12 test e 300-500mg/wk (thoughts on dose here?)
1-6 (or 8?) tren a 75mg EOD
Proper PCT of course

or

1-8 test p 100-150 mg EOD (thoughts on dose here?)
1-6 tren a 75 mg EOD
PCT

What would you boys recommend? I want to make sure not to lead him astray. Thanks for the thoughts in advance.

I would take the second cycle. Everything will kick at the same times. I did almost the same cycle and it was great. Except I add a low dose of dbol and hcg.

1-6 tren ace 100mg eod
1-8 test prop 200mg eod
1-8 dbol 35mg/ed
1-8 hcg 2X250iu/week

My favorite yet!

Reciprocity · 02-02-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorilla34

1-12 test e 300-500mg/wk (thoughts on dose here?)
1-6 (or 8?) tren a 75mg EOD
Proper PCT of course

I'm not a pin cushion so I dont shoot prop EOD. F-ck that noise.

Keep that Test at 500mg/week
Tren sounds good. Run to week 8 I'd say. 75mg EOD is good.

Reciprocity · 02-02-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon85

1-8 dbol 35mg/ed

You ment 1-4 right?

No one should ever take dbol that long

Gorilla34 · 02-02-2008, 11:40 AM

thanks guys, I have recommended HCG to him since tren is harsh.

Rep... how often do you shoot prop if not EOD?

Simon85 · 02-02-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Reciprocity

You ment 1-4 right?

No one should ever take dbol that long

No man. 8 weeks lol. IMO, it's not a big deal if your water intake is high and you're supplementing nac. No alcohol of course.

Gorilla34 · 02-02-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Reciprocity

You ment 1-4 right?

No one should ever take dbol that long

I'm with you on that Rep, but to each his own! He's staying away from Dbol regardless but the input is still appreciated!

Reciprocity · 02-02-2008, 12:05 PM

I dont generally shoot prop. I usually run Test E.

When I do run Prop it is EOD.

Just sucks ya know? Plus its a low ester, 100mg/ml

Test is Test really but nothing is anoying as shooting winny and havin that **** burn in your delt

Simon85 · 02-02-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorilla34

thanks guys, I have recommended HCG to him since tren is harsh.

Rep... how often do you shoot prop if not EOD?

I would use prop ed or eod. If it's e3d, you better go with enanthate.

Gorilla34 · 02-02-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon85

I would use prop ed or eod. If it's e3d, you better go with enanthate.

nah he can EOD, I just have to show him new injection spots tonight. I can only do e3d day due to my job....airports every week aren't conducive to constant pinning.

Thanks for confirming fellas, I think he will be pleased with this cycle.