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    The most powerful pre-workout supplement ever created! Only one like it!

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    Energy Substrate: 7955 mg
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    I say we start it off at $50.
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    looks like a solid product def would buy if it was available at bb.com. ill take it if your giving it away. but def not paying 50 but looks like you got a winner there
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    Originally Posted by martel04
    looks like a solid product def would buy if it was available at bb.com. ill take it if your giving it away. but def not paying 50 but looks like you got a winner there
    Would you pay $50 for it on BB.com?
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    Besides the "Energy Substrate" comprised of 3 sugars and glutamine, not bad...but Im not about to pay for something you mixed by hand in your kitchen.
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    Originally Posted by Skigazzi
    Besides the "Energy Substrate" comprised of 3 sugars and glutamine, not bad...but Im not about to pay for something you mixed by hand in your kitchen.
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    yea $50 is kinda high.. I will stick with R4W
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    Originally Posted by Skigazzi
    Besides the "Energy Substrate" comprised of 3 sugars and glutamine, not bad...but Im not about to pay for something you mixed by hand in your kitchen.
    Granted it was mixed by "hand" I did not mix it in my kitchen. It was all done in my lab.

    The energy substrate is necessary. It is all about making sure the free form amino get to do their job instead of being "burned up" so to speak. Notice it isn't like 20-30 grams of carbs. It's a few grams of carbs plus glutamine with the specific prupose in mind. The glutamine is there in fact to be used by the gut.
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    $50 for 20 servings? At $2.50 per serving, this definitely wouldn't be something I would buy.
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    This thread has inspired me, since Ive been stuck at home and will be till tomorrow AM due to the blizzard in the NE, Im gonna concoct me a blend....no clue what of (boy I got a lot of crap laying around)...check back later...
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    Originally Posted by nick912
    yea $50 is kinda high.. I will stick with R4W
    Not even close to the same.
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    Originally Posted by Skigazzi
    This thread has inspired me, since Ive been stuck at home and will be till tomorrow AM due to the blizzard in the NE, Im gonna concoct me a blend....no clue what of (boy I got a lot of crap laying around)...check back later...
    You're a homebrewer too huh? Look forward to seeing what you make up.
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    Looks very solid indeed Aeter. I will buy some if you come up with a non methyl aas that kills acne
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    Originally Posted by Aeternitatis
    You're a homebrewer too huh? Look forward to seeing what you make up.
    Im thinking Libido and sense of well-being... signing off, be back in a couple hours...{walks into the lab (kitchen) with an evil grin on his face}
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    Originally Posted by Skigazzi
    Besides the "Energy Substrate" comprised of 3 sugars and glutamine, not bad...but Im not about to pay for something you mixed by hand in your kitchen.
    i think he has something going for him...i mean if people still buy from protein factory.........
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    LOL is a proprietary blend really necessary?
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    LOL is a proprietary blend really necessary?
    It makes it fun for me. But the blends are so small that you can basically figure out the amount of each ingredient.
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    Make everything in there an ethyl ester and I'll buy
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    Talking Here is what came out of my lab

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    It took years of development, but here it is, the worlds most effective Libido, and performance enhancer.

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    Serving Size: 5 capsule one hour prior to "Gettin' Down"
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    Yohimbe -- 306mg
    Tribulus (40%)-- 344mg
    Saw Palmetto -- 248mg
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    why 50$ I beilive Xfactors sales would increase greatly if the price was in the 28-35$ range.. thats where this should be also depends on the number of servings in the bottel
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    mm, i like mixing my own blends in my lab (read: kitchen counter) from all the bulk supplements i buy. here's what i'm looking at for pre-workout, it's pretty similar:
    7g EAA, 2g tyrosine, 3g glycerine, 2g Citrulline, 2.5g CEE, 300mg magnesium, 10g malto

    but if one wanted to make it even better (i would, but don't feel like spending more), i'd add another gram or 2 of citrulline, add some tyramine, alcar, a couple grams of aakg, choline, replace the cee and mag with mcc (do they still sell that in bulk?) actually, whats been reported on the efficacy of tyramine? maybe i'll get some instead of tyrosine...
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    Hey I have a question....

    when you do pre-workout blend like this, do you weight in each ingredients to know you have 2, 3 or 7g? It must be a pain in the a$$ to do before each workout!

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    Are we actually allowed to now sell things on BB.com?
    No...but I'll see ya the bottle I just made
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    Originally Posted by Skigazzi
    No...but I'll see ya the bottle I just made
    haha, just curious, i wouldnt mind gettin rid of some stuff
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    I had less bulk stuff to play with than I thought
    with all of your bulk supps being libido enhancers, I'm gathering that you were hitting Club Kama Sutra twice a week before it was shut down.
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    I'm game

    PM me your address, I'll do a review of it.

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    Originally Posted by Oak the Toke
    with all of your bulk supps being libido enhancers, I'm gathering that you were hitting Club Kama Sutra twice a week before it was shut down.
    I bought the tribulus about 2 years ago, it was the last time I figured Igive trib a try as a muscle builder, the Yohimbe I bought as a stimulant, I hate it.

    But the Maca...the Maca is for my mojo

    The others are more mood and well being supps, Ashwagandha, Rhodiola and Bacopa. (though each has some vague references to sexual arousal in their literature)

    But yea...now that are all together in one cap Im interested in seeing how it goes down.
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