Detection time for Primo

[Char]

I?m confused.

What is the detection time for Primobolan Depot? I have been told that it?s approx. 5 month, but now I?ve red that it?s only 4-5 weeks. Which is true? I have a show in sep, and they do random testing.

[whitegato1488]

4-5 weeks

[Char]

Originally Posted by whitegato1488

4-5 weeks

Thanks :-)

[Wilde]

I am an arrogant jerk and I apologize for my rude and unrelated comments.

[Vadim Beliaev]

stfu you worthless ****

[Wilde]

I am sorry.

[Char]

Originally Posted by Vadim Beliaev

stfu you worthless ****

So you are actually juging me for just having thought about it, and not actually done it? So I can?t ask a question in a tread about steroids? That?s just pathetic.

[Wilde]

Last edited by MakinItBIG : Today at 07:53 AM.

If you want to change what people are writing you may aswell just delete the whole thing. I am not sorry I made a good point about the rules and regulations of natural shows and I don't support people who cheat, have a problem with fair people buddy?

[whitegato1488]

Originally Posted by Char

So you are actually juging me for just having thought about it, and not actually done it? So I can?t ask a question in a tread about steroids? That?s just pathetic.

i think vadim was supporting you.

[Wilde]

Yes the roid rage outburst was directed at me because I don't believe in cheating, and apparently I'm a worthless **** because I believe in following the rules, I didn't know it was considered good to cheat but now i know.

[Char]

Originally Posted by whitegato1488

i think vadim was supporting you.

If thats the?s case, then I am soo sorry for the misunderstanding.

Originally Posted by Wilde

Yes the roid rage outburst was directed at me because I don't believe in cheating, and apparently I'm a worthless **** because I believe in following the rules, I didn't know it was considered good to cheat but now i know.

I totally agree with you. It?s not good to cheat. But I think that most (NOT ALL) bodybuilding- and fitness/figure competitors, cheat one way or the other. They just don?t admit it. And why should they, as long as they are tested clean. In my country, even using fatburners is considered cheating. All in all.. no, it?s not right to cheat, and not fair to other competitors, but I don?t blame anyone for thinking about it.. But I do understand your point of view.

[Wilde]

Originally Posted by Char

If thats the?s case, then I am soo sorry for the misunderstanding.



I totally agree with you. It?s not good to cheat. But I think that most (NOT ALL) bodybuilding- and fitness/figure competitors, cheat one way or the other. They just don?t admit it. And why should they, as long as they are tested clean. In my country, even using fatburners is considered cheating. All in all.. no, it?s not right to cheat, and not fair to other competitors, but I don?t blame anyone for thinking about it.. But I do understand your point of view.

It is a very big issue because hardly anyone gets tested (for real) not "yeah piss in this cup so i can throw it in the bin a few minutes after", and many time's I've said those same words in my head - "everyone else does it so I may aswell to its only fair to be on the same level right?" only thing is its still wrong at the end of the day, like there's people who molest kids and rob banks and shoot people...doesn't mean its ok for me to go do it because they do. I'd also feel like a moron if I did it, some people have made it so obvious from yearly changes that I don't know whether to laugh or just shake my head.

So yeah its a bit of dillema, especially for me because if I wanted to take drugs and enter the IFBB then I'd get a whooping because I haven't done so for years like the other competitors, if i do the INBA clean like I have done I get beaten by people using Eph and Clen and all that..and if I decide to do what they do then I'm a cheater and people will mock me for it, lets face it its pretty obvious whos on it and who isn't....so yeah up to you really, not an easy decision is it?

[whitegato1488]

Originally Posted by Wilde

Yes the roid rage outburst was directed at me because I don't believe in cheating, and apparently I'm a worthless **** because I believe in following the rules, I didn't know it was considered good to cheat but now i know.

yes i can sypathize but just bremember you dont have to convince anyone of your opinion. i you feel good being convinced about that then thats good. but there is no reason people have to get jacked up about it. its not worth the time.

[sikdogg]

Originally Posted by Wilde

Yes the roid rage outburst was directed at me because I don't believe in cheating, and apparently I'm a worthless **** because I believe in following the rules, I didn't know it was considered good to cheat but now i know.

Following the rules is fine and not wanting to cheat is commendable but throwing your beliefs and opinons on people who didn't ask for it makes you an ass... if you don't want to cheat, then don't. Just don't try to force that opinion on others...

Char, sorry for the highjack...

[Wilde]

Yeah some of us handle these things appropriately while others are just childish and try to be tough, internet for ya.

[Char]

Originally Posted by Wilde

It is a very big issue because hardly anyone gets tested (for real) not "yeah piss in this cup so i can throw it in the bin a few minutes after", and many time's I've said those same words in my head - "everyone else does it so I may aswell to its only fair to be on the same level right?" only thing is its still wrong at the end of the day, like there's people who molest kids and rob banks and shoot people...doesn't mean its ok for me to go do it because they do. I'd also feel like a moron if I did it, some people have made it so obvious from yearly changes that I don't know whether to laugh or just shake my head.

So yeah its a bit of dillema, especially for me because if I wanted to take drugs and enter the IFBB then I'd get a whooping because I haven't done so for years like the other competitors, if i do the INBA clean like I have done I get beaten by people using Eph and Clen and all that..and if I decide to do what they do then I'm a cheater and people will mock me for it, lets face it its pretty obvious whos on it and who isn't....so yeah up to you really, not an easy decision is it?

No it's not an easy decision to make. Funny thing though, those who just join the gym to.. well... just join, and have never had a serious workout in their life, or never break a sweat, and a result thereoff: no muscle gain/ weightloss etc. etc, they always think (or most of them do) that because we do get results with proper nutrition and kick a** workouts, then naturally we use roids or other drugs. Now that just pathetic.
I have no intentions to compete in bodybuilding, only figure. So I guess I have to see how I do this year in the NPC southernstates figure in july. I did good last year and if I can do better this year, and do it a 100% clean, then there is no need for me to take anything.

[Wilde]

Yeah figure also has its issues with judging, 1 year they say the girl isn't lean enough and then the next year they are TOO lean. If you do it clean then you won't get that insanely ripped look that they don't like so I think you'll do alright, good luck anyway.

[Char]

Originally Posted by Wilde

Yeah figure also has its issues with judging, 1 year they say the girl isn't lean enough and then the next year they are TOO lean. If you do it clean then you won't get that insanely ripped look that they don't like so I think you'll do alright, good luck anyway.

Thanks. I saw my trainer yesterday, and he hasn't seen me since july. He is extremely saticfied with my progress, so I guess I'll go with the "clean" look. But yeah, you are right. You never know what the jugdes are looking for. It's like they keep on changing their minds.