Avant Synthesize

**TheUnlikelyToad** · 01-31-2008, 06:37 AM

Following tha AC I'll be back in action and it looks as though I'll needing some creatine. Since I'll be dieting I figured it would be a great option, especially adding some glucosamine.

I'm looking for some unbiased feedback to find out if it's worth tha extra dime from those that have actually used it.

**Rodzilla** · 01-31-2008, 07:21 AM

I'm waiting for Haiz...I think he had some pretty outstanding results.

**bigsexysd7** · 01-31-2008, 07:29 AM

I have only used the beta, and I loved it. I used it to bulk and cut, and I really enjoyed how mymuscles looked fuller while carb depleating.

**TheUnlikelyToad** · 01-31-2008, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by bigsexysd7

I have only used the beta, and I loved it. I used it to bulk and cut, and I really enjoyed how mymuscles looked fuller while carb depleating.

With or without Glucosamine?

**Rodzilla** · 01-31-2008, 08:02 AM

Toad, clear some PM space please.

**TheUnlikelyToad** · 01-31-2008, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Rodzilla

Toad, clear some PM space please.

Done

**eldawg** · 01-31-2008, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

With or without Glucosamine?

Any special reasons for potentially adding glucosamine?

**rpen22** · 01-31-2008, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by eldawg

Any special reasons for potentially adding glucosamine?

Leptin.

**eldawg** · 01-31-2008, 11:56 AM

Thx.

**factotum** · 01-31-2008, 12:25 PM

I'd be wary of adding glucosamine HCL if you have acid reflux issues. I'm thinking of rerunning it but with gluco sulfate instead and see if resolves my acid reflux. Or perhaps just completely eliminate the glucosamine.

But I would like to see a more indepth discussion on glucosamine and leptin signaling here.

**rpen22** · 01-31-2008, 01:51 PM

We plan to have a blog on the AR site specifically about adding Glucosamine to SyntheSIZE to create your own Leptigen Mass v2.

**Rodzilla** · 01-31-2008, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by wanderlei

I'd be wary of adding glucosamine HCL if you have acid reflux issues. I'm thinking of rerunning it but with gluco sulfate instead and see if resolves my acid reflux. Or perhaps just completely eliminate the glucosamine.

But I would like to see a more indepth discussion on glucosamine and leptin signaling here.

I was just looking through some old posts that has discussions on the addition of glucosamine to synthesize.

I think you will see good results regardless of adding glucosamine do to the other ingredients. The gluco would just make it an "uber anabolic formula" whereas on its own, its a "super anabolic formula"

I forget who is in charge of the write-up, but we will show it to you as soon as its up...or for you, maybe even a bit before

edit: well actually I think the addition should depend on what you are looking to do( you probably already knew this) but what are your current goals Wand?

**TheUnlikelyToad** · 01-31-2008, 03:55 PM

Why not make it "uber" from tha get-go?

It's not like adding Cap or Clen to Napalm where there are obvious problems.

**rpen22** · 01-31-2008, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

Why not make it "uber" from tha get-go?

It's not like adding Cap or Clen to Napalm where there are obvious problems.

You mean why don't we officially add it into the formula?

**mwballbanger** · 01-31-2008, 04:02 PM

when does this product come out?

**rpen22** · 01-31-2008, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by mwballbanger

when does this product come out?

It's out already. The BB.com store just has it as "discontinued" due to a naming conflict. It's currently available at numerous other online retailers.

**TheUnlikelyToad** · 01-31-2008, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by rpen22

You mean why don't we officially add it into the formula?

Yeah...

**rpen22** · 01-31-2008, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

Yeah...

Well, not everyone who's looking for a creatine formula/meal optimizer needs an increase in leptin(eg. overfed endos). That's why it was a good idea with the Leptigens(since there were multiple formulas, with and without Glucosamine), but if we did that with SyntheSIZE, it would be limiting the consumer base somewhat.

**johnny87** · 01-31-2008, 04:15 PM

i took the beta when it was only like 20 bucks. i had ok results. from my experience it would be better on a bulk than cut

**TheUnlikelyToad** · 01-31-2008, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by rpen22

Well, not everyone who's looking for a creatine formula/meal optimizer needs an increase in leptin(eg. overfed endos). That's why it was a good idea with the Leptigens(since there were multiple formulas, with and without Glucosamine), but if we did that with SyntheSIZE, it would be limiting the consumer base somewhat.

Makes sense... if I would have thought about it enough, I probably would have figured it out.

Thanks

**haiz69** · 01-31-2008, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rodzilla

I'm waiting for Haiz...I think he had some pretty outstanding results.

YEAH!

I used the Beta during a cut. Judging by the ingredients, the new one will be better with the addition of Creatine Mono too.

I just did a simple Syntesize + Melting Point/Scorch for energy stack. Thats all I used. Usually TTA will help me lose weight, but also a decent amount of muscle. I used synthesize on this cut and lost 9 pounds in 35 or so days (so a heavy duty cut) and I kept ALL my strength.

Energy was not a problem at all, and muscle preservation was top notch.

Certainly one of my favorite creatines (Along with CLOUT/Size-on).

If you have any specific questions, let me know.

**Rodzilla** · 01-31-2008, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

Why not make it "uber" from tha get-go?

It's not like adding Cap or Clen to Napalm where there are obvious problems.

Originally Posted by rpen22

Well, not everyone who's looking for a creatine formula/meal optimizer needs an increase in leptin(eg. overfed endos). That's why it was a good idea with the Leptigens(since there were multiple formulas, with and without Glucosamine), but if we did that with SyntheSIZE, it would be limiting the consumer base somewhat.

sorry I missed it.
good luck Ryan.

and thanks for the info Haiz.

**dsade** · 01-31-2008, 04:40 PM

What was your dosing protocol, Haiz?

**haiz69** · 01-31-2008, 04:42 PM

3X a day with meals:

Breakfast
Pre-WO
Dinner

**TheUnlikelyToad** · 01-31-2008, 04:51 PM

What flavor is it? Could I throw it in with my morning breakfast shake?

3x a day on a powder is rough...

**Rodzilla** · 01-31-2008, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by TheUnlikelyToad

What flavor is it? Could I throw it in with my morning breakfast shake?

3x a day on a powder is rough...

its orange, flavor has been drastically improved for the final version.

**dsade** · 01-31-2008, 05:14 PM

I just remembered I have a tub in my kitchen. I am going to go check it out right now.

Orange with some chicken and rice? Sounds good enough.

**haiz69** · 01-31-2008, 08:59 PM

I can't wait to get the NEW version. The old one was way too sweet and smelled like rancid....something. Tasted fine, but the smell was interesting to say the least.

**rpen22** · 01-31-2008, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by haiz69

The old one was way too sweet and smelled like rancid....something. Tasted fine, but the smell was interesting to say the least.

Haha word. The Final smells and tastes MUCH better.

**haiz69** · 01-31-2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by rpen22

Haha word. The Final smells and tastes MUCH better.

Nice! I'll trade you an old one for a new one....kidding.

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