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    Has feminism ruined our generation (serious)

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    Originally Posted by Crest_Man View Post
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    No. The lack of personal responsibility has. Entitlement has.
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    Yep. Women putting careers ahead of family is the reason our population is decreasing and we need to rely on immigration in order for our economy not to die.
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    Originally Posted by McCrack View Post
    Yep. Women putting careers ahead of family is the reason our population is decreasing and we need to rely on immigration in order for our economy not to die.
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    Its destroyed the nuclear family where the husband was the provider and the wife was the homemaker. But that was always the purpose of feminism anyway.

    Its definitely created more options for women. They can choose to be a homemaker or pursue a career in the workforce. It hasn't helped men directly since we are still expected to be providers.

    However, it has greatly helped men indirectly. In the past women were expected to be demure and ladylike (ie. promiscuity was gravely looked down upon). Nowadays women are encouraged to be promiscuous and behave, with regards to sex, like men do. The benefit is that men can now get sex without the string of marital commitment attached. It allows us to behave in our natural state - sexual relations with multiple partners. In other words, we can get all the benefits (sans tax benefits) of marriage without getting married. Its an unintended consequence of feminism. Hopefully, this abstinence movement will never pick up steam b/c if it does we're really fuked. As it stands now, so long as you aren't married you can walk away without any legal liabilities.
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    Originally Posted by AntWrig View Post
    No. The lack of personal responsibility has. Entitlement has.
    I agree with you.

    But what can we as citizens do to change this I wonder?

    I'm with you, I want to turn this society around.
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    i'd say ruined is a strong word, more like its created a bunch of emo pussy men who txt msg their girl friends 5000 times a day (yes angry)
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    Originally Posted by namtaB View Post
    Its destroyed the nuclear family where the husband was the provider and the wife was the homemaker. But that was always the purpose of feminism anyway.

    Its definitely created more options for women. They can choose to be a homemaker or pursue a career in the workforce. It hasn't helped men directly since we are still expected to be providers.

    However, it has greatly helped men indirectly. In the past women were expected to be demure and ladylike (ie. promiscuity was gravely looked down upon). Nowadays women are encouraged to be promiscuous and behave, with regards to sex, like men do. The benefit is that men can now get sex without the string of marital commitment attached. It allows us to behave in our natural state - sexual relations with multiple partners. In other words, we can get all the benefits (sans tax benefits) of marriage without getting married. Its an unintended consequence of feminism. Hopefully, this abstinence movement will never pick up steam b/c if it does we're really fuked. As it stands now, so long as you aren't married you can walk away without any legal liabilities.
    That is until 9 months later and she hits you up for half your worth.
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    Live your own life. Don't worry about sweeping generalizations and movements.

    We beat down women for generations for no good reason (thank you, religion). It's about time we realized that each individual can live as he/she chooses.
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    As long as society keeps a "glass ceiling" on income for women, and there is still the wage gap, many women will still be semi-dependent on their male counterpart to raise a healthy home. When that ceiling is broken, women will be exponentially more fiscally independent.

    Divorce rates are directly linked to women putting their careers ahead of their family. Many marriages lasted decades longer than they would have in today's age simply because the woman was dependent on the income of the male. Now that women are becoming a more prominent force in the work field and filling positions that were originally strictly male dominated, they can now do whatever the fck they want.

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    Many so called feminists today are not even real feminist. The purpose of feminism was to fight to remove unnecessary discrimination towards women. Any women that's just half intelligent would never argue to remove all discrimination towards women because there is a lot of discrimination that works IN their favor.

    For example, if a guy gets in your face and start calling you all kinds of names and ****, pushes you etc. and you hit him/fight him. That's an acceptable norm in our society. However, if a woman gets in your face and calls you and your mother all sorts of ****, she slaps you, pushes you, etc. and you hit her...you're considered to be wrong for hitting a woman. So any man that doesn't hit a woman or gives women much more "leeway" before he hits her only because of the fact that she is a woman....IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST WOMEN! But do you think you'll ever hear or see women protesting or arguing to remove that discriminating?? NEVER!

    So these so called feminist arguing for "equal right" need to buy a damn dictionary and look up the world "equal". Because if we actually gave them equal rights...things would be much worse for WOMEN not men.
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    Originally Posted by ljwede7 View Post
    Live your own life. Don't worry about sweeping generalizations and movements.

    We beat down women for generations for no good reason (thank you, religion). It's about time we realized that each individual can live as he/she chooses.
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    Gender is indeterminable. Why punish or help a person because of something they have no control over?

    And no person should have to conform to others' standards or expectations.
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    Originally Posted by NoodleLegs View Post
    As long as society keeps a "glass ceiling" on income for women, and there is still the wage gap, many women will still be semi-dependent on their male counterpart to raise a healthy home. When that ceiling is broken, women will be exponentially more fiscally independent.

    Divorce rates are directly linked to women putting their careers ahead of their family. Many marriages lasted decades longer than they would have in today's age simply because the woman was dependent on the income of the male. Now that women are becoming a more prominent force in the work field and filling positions that were originally strictly male dominated, they can now do whatever the fck they want.

    =

    Male's will soon be replaced by vibrators.

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    Women tend to earn less than men for a few reasons. #1. women are not as likely to negotiate their salary..they just take what's given to them. #2. it is risky for a company to move a woman (especially if she is single) up the corporate latter because there's a chance her "Prince Charming" may come along and get her pregnant. So she's gone for 9 months then after she has her baby it's very likely that her loyalty will change from the company to her new family. She'll either quit or be much less productive at work.
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    no. our generation ruined feminism

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    Originally Posted by PROBLEMatic View Post
    Women tend to earn less than men for a few reasons. #1. women are not as likely to negotiate their salary..they just take what's given to them. #2. it is risky for a company to move a woman (especially if she is single) up the corporate latter because there's a chance her "Prince Charming" may come along and get her pregnant. So she's gone for 9 months then after she has her baby it's very likely that her loyalty will change from the company to her new family. She'll either quit or but much less productive at work.
    Noice, noice, and noted.

    I still believe in the glass ceiling, though.
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    I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Men and women are not equal. We might as well say A is equal to B. This isn't to say men or women are lesser beings than the other sex, but simply that there are differences and they should be valued and appreciated.

    In answer to the question, I think feminism at first, did a lot for society, however as with all movements, there are extremists who ruin it for everyone else.
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    Im forced to take this retarded class on constitutional law and gender. so im currently reading all this feminist BS that I don't give a crap about.

    My view is that they should not be unecessarily burdened, BUT It upsets me how family values are destroyed and marriage is now a joke.

    Know your role

    men provide, women work in the home. It's been like this for thousands of years and **** was fine, all of a sudden everything falls apart.

    Women are genetically programmed to be nurturing, they naturally want kids and want to nest. IMO the hardcore career women are going against natural tendencies and will ultimately feel like crap when they get old.

    Because their careers wont satisfy them on their deathbed when no family comes to visit them.

    family > career.

    a family is like a team, not everyone can be Jordan or Kobe. You also need the sidekicks like Pippen to succeed.

    Man = jordan, woman = Pippen since a man cannot have kids by himself. Not my fault.
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    My view is that they should not be unecessarily burdened, BUT It upsets me how family values are destroyed and marriage is now a joke.
    If you've got a set of values, live them. Why give a crap about what other people do. Are you that insecure?

    Personally, I don't want a servant-wife. I want a partner, someone with differences but a career and ambition of her own.
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    A smart man once said...

    Women....

    Hai....

    Science has proven your inferior.
    Religions all agree that your inferior.
    5000+ years of human history you have been inferior.
    In the last 30 we have been testing out giving you more power, and guess what? we are not that impressed.

    I'd Go back to kitchen....

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    Originally Posted by mjfan12 View Post
    Im forced to take this retarded class on constitutional law and gender. so im currently reading all this feminist BS that I don't give a crap about.

    My view is that they should not be unecessarily burdened, BUT It upsets me how family values are destroyed and marriage is now a joke.

    Know your role and shut your mouth.

    men provide, women work in the home. It's been like this for thousands of years and **** was fine, all of a sudden everything falls apart.

    Women are genetically programmed to be nurturing, they naturally want kids and want to nest. IMO the hardcore career women are going against natural tendencies and will ultimately feel like crap when they get old.

    Because their careers wont satisfy them on their deathbed when no family comes to visit them.

    family > career.

    While I agree with part of what you say - it saddens me also that marriage has become sucha trivial thing, and that 'family' seems to mean nothing more than people related by blood/marriage, rather than a network of support and trust - I disagree that women are 'meant' to be nothing but homemakers. The last three years I spent at uni, studying, while my boyfriend was working fulltime. I found this frustrating - I wanted to be productive, to DO something rather than regurgitate what I had consumed visually the day before. For me, I feel I would suffer greatly if I was made to just look after children, tidy the house and make dinner. In the 19th Century women were often diagnosed with 'hysteria' which it is often documented (although not so well publicised) as a result of just this kind of role.

    While I want a family, I also have goals and aspirations in other areas of life - I want to start up and run my own business, I want to do a triathlon, I want to freelance for magazines, work in PR and run events. I feel I can do these things - some before, some during and some after - having and raising a family. One of the best mothers I know works full time, runs and is completing her masters in business - it is often said that busy people are the most productive, not just because of their work but because they are inclined to want to constantly be challenged, to always have something on the go and make time for everyone. I aspire to be like her, and she is proof that the decrease in family values these days is not necessarily the mother's fault, but simply a general loosening and changing of the way society works, which is not just a result of feminism, but of a decrease of respect, on all levels.
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    Originally Posted by ****nybuttons View Post
    I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Men and women are not equal. We might as well say A is equal to B. This isn't to say men or women are lesser beings than the other sex, but simply that there are differences and they should be valued and appreciated.

    In answer to the question, I think feminism at first, did a lot for society, however as with all movements, there are extremists who ruin it for everyone else.
    That's because there are a lot of people out there that want to believe that only the only differences between men and women is "men have a penis, women have a vagina, and men are a little stronger". If only it were that simple! The differences between men and women start at the skeleton and build from there. There are differences in the male & female brain and differences in the way we use our brains. Differences in our chemical make ups and differences in percentage of body fat and muscle.

    A lot of people try to compare racial inequalities with gender inequalities but that comparison is extremely flawed. Even the most racist white man (for example) has to realize that he has much more in common with a black man than he does with a white woman! A black woman has much more in common with a white woman than she does with a black man!! Racial differences are skin deep...gender differences are much, much more than that. One day more people will finally get it through their thickass heads men and women are NOT equal.
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    Feminism is not a huge issue IRL.

    The misc has a skewed version of reality. In the misc's world Ron Paul will easily win this fall, men are either alpha PUA's or AFC, and feminists are taking over and "pussifying" men. These are not true.

    People here seem to believe the hype though, and probably from watching too much tv.

    1. Commercials in the past 3 years or so have depicted the loser white man in his mid twenties. This is not because men today are totally whipped, it's because the commercial appeals to women or loser men.

    2. Emo is moderately popular among middle and high schoolers. It's a fashion/music fad that they'll be embarrassed about when they're older. They won't be the first. We think it's stupid because it's strange and new. Our parents generation thought the same of our music.

    3. Lawsuits have made it hard to achieve vigilante justice, as movies may have convinced you happens all the time in the past.

    4. Women's rights have grown to the point that we can't sexually, verbally, or physically women anymore. If you consider this is "pussified," you'll probably end up in jail at some point in your life.



    In conclusion, live your own life. You do not have to be whipped by your girlfriend or back down from confrontation. But remember, most of you claiming men are pussies, are 15-17 years old and the girl you like is going out with a guy who wears tight corduroy jeans.
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    Originally Posted by McCrack View Post
    Yep. Women putting careers ahead of family.

    Bingo!

    After WWII

    The corporations and government more than doubled their income by nudging women with their elbows in the gut saying, "Psst... Hey your husband makes more money than you! What kind of sh!t is that? You are less of a human if you make less. You are trapped! Limited! You should be a man and do what men do!!!!. Be 'free'!!!!!!

    Meantime, while Mom is convinced to be selfish instead of selfless. The kids (our future) are left misguided. If guided at all.

    Women have the most important instictive job in the world that a man could NEVER do; children.

    I envy them for it.

    Too bad they're a dying breed.
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    Originally Posted by Hesh View Post
    I agree with you.

    But what can we as citizens do to change this I wonder?

    I'm with you, I want to turn this society around.



    Are you kidding me? You change nothing. Not unless Verizon, Pepsi & Citibank or their lawyers say so. It's over, bro. It is a corporate world now and you are just living in it.
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    Women thought the last victory of equality was to make men more 'sensitive'. The bitter irony, says this male writer in a piece that will infuriate the opposite sex (including his wife Liz Jones), is women don't like wimps after all...
    At a dinner party recently, I encountered the depressingly familiar sight of a dynamic thirty- something woman accompanied by a nerdy male sidekick that she'd browbeaten into proposing to her.
    The mismatch in power was obvious. She was successful, ambitious and confident; he was a diffident, overweight, shrinking violet who measured every word he spoke in case he said anything remotely contentious that might offend her.
    On her wedding finger was the most enormous, glittering engagement ring. A mutual friend later told me she'd initially been presented with a less garish but more exquisite diamond but had told her fianc? to return it to the shop and get her something bigger.
    That huge diamond was his declaration of surrender in the sex war. But I didn't feel sorry for the stupid sap; he should have been man enough to tell her to get lost and find some other dummy.
    Instead, he'd been sucker-punched into a lifetime of nagging and neglect, and looking at his bossy wife-to-be parading her huge rock, I felt a shiver of pre-emptive schadenfreude.
    Her smug smile might have given the impression that her glossy-magazine-inspired life was all going to plan, but I could see the tragedy to come.
    One day she'll realise how dull and unfulfilling it is to have a man who doesn't answer back, who offers no challenge or danger - but by then she'll be over the hill and stuck with him for fear of being left on the shelf. Sadly, this is the state of many marriages today.
    Back in the Nineties, emboldened by the successes of feminism, women sought to slay the dragon of patriarchy by turning men into ridiculous cissies who would cry with them through chick-flicks and then cook up a decent lasagne.
    Suddenly, women wanted to drive home their newfound equality by moulding men to be more like them.
    This velvet revolution was reflected in a series of broader cultural changes. After decades of uncompromising movie heroes like Marlon Brando and Clint Eastwood, we were asked to fall for stuttering, floppy-haired fops like Hugh Grant; touchy-feely and hopelessly embarrassed around women.
    No doubt at the time, millions of misguided single women thought that having a man who could feel their pain and emote for Britain was a Good Thing.
    Now, over a decade later, women are waking up to the fact that these men are drippy, sexless bores. The feminisation of men hasn't produced the well-rounded uber-males women were hoping for.
    Instead, women are now lumped with flabby invertebrates, little more than doormats, whom they secretly despise but are too proud to admit it.
    Rather than partnership, professional women tend to seek dominance in a relationship. They map their lives out early on and pursue their dream of 'having it all' with cold-blooded ruthlessness.
    Young women have a crystal-clear agenda: they want the career, the wardrobe, the smartly furnished house, the 4x4 and the cute kids they'll ferry in it to expensive schools. No man is going to get in their way; and the men they choose for themselves are pliant and feeble enough to facilitate that programme.
    Concentrating so much energy on work and family matters requires these women to pick a man who is predictable and secure, who won't upset the apple cart by pursuing dreams and instincts of his own.
    These are cardboard cut-out men who gush with empathy whenever their wives and girlfriends need to dump their professional stresses and female angst on them: weak and soulless men who haven't the guts to make a mark themselves, who take the passenger seat in their women's juggernaut journey to post-feminist Nirvana.
    But having ticked off the various items on their life checklist, women are left with a nagging sense of dissatisfaction. Where was the drama? Where was the passion? Where was the stimulation and growth?
    It was all forsaken for an anodyne, materialistic shopping spree that is a Good Thing. ultimately a poor substitute for a real life. These women consider themselves to be alpha-females, but they are nothing but a pathetic sham.
    A true Amazon couldn't stand the company of a supplicant male, let alone marry one. Real alpha-women are the ones who can more than hold their own with an alpha-man.
    Deep down, women love men who stand up to them, who won't be pushed around. They love men who will look them in the eye and tell them to shut up when their hormonal bickering has become too much.
    They love men who will draw a line in the sand and walk out on them when they've had enough. They love men who know their own minds and are man enough to stick to their guns.
    I'm always telling my wife, the writer Liz Jones, to shut up. She gets into a prissy huff about it, but I know she respects me for not indulging her neuroticism. Long ago, I realised it is unhealthy for a man to embroil himself in arguments with women.
    While men want an argument to make sense and have a rational conclusion, women solely want the argument itself: it's a pressure valve for their emotions, and once they get started there is no stopping them.
    I have a very low boredom threshold; I can't bear having protracted discussions about where my wife and I 'are going'. Nor can I bear to listen to the gossipy, highly detailed 'He said, she said' monologues that women drift into when telling you about their day.
    I deal with these elements of the female personality with impassive indifference. People might call me a sexist pig, but I am the opposite. I love women, and I love my wife because she is brilliant and incredibly strong.
    I am a true feminist, because I only want to be with a powerful and capable woman. No sexist could cope with having a wife as intelligent and independent as mine.
    Our relationship would never have worked had I been an effete New Man, desperately wanting to sympathise with the female condition.
    My wife would have grown to loathe me for my fawning cowardice. She is a warrior and she needs to be with someone who is a match for her. Knowing the limits of what I will deal with in a relationship, I maintain my self-respect and, accordingly, gain hers.
    Men are now generally terrified of women. They hold their tongues for fear of being misinterpreted as sexist; they constantly attempt to secondguess their partner in order to avoid giving offence.
    They preen themselves with groaning shelves full of beauty products so they won't incur derision and scorn. They suppress their masculinity and present themselves as cuddly Mr Nice Guys, and won't project self- confidence in case it's regarded as unreconstructed machismo.
    This backfiring feminist conspiracy has, of course, developed hand in hand with the march of raging political correctness in Britain. The two have combined like some potent chemical reaction to explode in the faces of a generation of women who thought that a 'moulded' man would make for a desirable one.
    In recent years, men have been trained like circus seals to be inoffensive to women, and no longer know how to entice them and turn them on.
    But women secretly long for a man with swagger, who is cocky and selfassured and has the cheek to stand up them and make fun of their feminine foibles.
    They long for the rakish charm of a man who knows there's a whole ocean of fish out there, who isn't afraid of being himself in case he is rejected.
    The truth is, a real man doesn't care what any woman thinks of him. He doesn't care what anyone thinks of him: he answers solely to his spirit.
    Real men don't pretend or even try to understand women. They simply love them for being the mysterious, capricious creatures that they are. And they don't take them too seriously, either. They know the vicissitudes of the female mind, its constant insecurities and the fluctuations in mood.
    Rather than pander to them, they simply watch them drift by like so many clouds on the horizon. They don't get entangled in a woman's feelings and listen to her prattling on and on until she's talked herself out. Such strong and stoic men are exactly what women need to anchor themselves amid the chaos of their emotions.
    Sometimes my wife bemoans my detachment and laissez-faire attitude to our marriage and wishes I were more wrapped up in her. I tell her she would soon get bored of it, because men who put women on a pedestal can't make love to them in the way that women want.
    A man who is too in awe of his woman isn't going to tear her blouse open and ravish her on the couch; he isn't going to pull her hair and whisper profanities in her ear. Whenever my marriage is at a crisis point, and my wife's ego and mine are jostling for a position of supremacy, we inevitably have strenuous, battling sex.
    My wife is older and more successful than I am, but the bedroom has always been the arena in which I have brought her down to earth.
    The female orgasm is the natural mechanism by which men assert dominion over women: a man who appreciates this can negotiate whatever difficulties arise in his relationships with them.
    Last Christmas, my wife threw me out after discovering I'd been cheating on her. On the night we got back together, I made strong, passionate love to her. Unfaithful as I'd been, I was not going to let her have me over a barrel for the rest of our marriage. I needed to keep a sense of self and not allow her to mire me in guilt and a desperate quest of forgiveness.
    I needed to let her know what she would be missing if we broke up for ever. I gave her a manful bravura performance that night, and at the height of her passion, I asked her: 'Who's the boss?'
    The question threw her. Initially she wouldn't give me a reply, but I enticed it from her. 'You are,' she finally gasped. 'You are!' I am a very difficult man to be with. I know I have caused my wife great pain and anxiety. But she is an adult, and ultimately it is wholly her choice whether she wants to be with me or not - I cannot be anyone other than myself.
    I don't believe in working on relationships and making artificial efforts to give them substance. I believe in people being themselves and following their hearts towards whatever destiny lies before them.
    When women choose to be with New Men, they are choosing a life that will be only half-lived. I think a lot of them are finally waking up to that fact. Relationships between independent and assertive people will always be fraught with tensions, but they have enormous creative energy.
    Despite the many problems my wife and I have endured, we have both come a long way since we first met six years ago.
    We have challenged one another to grow - professionally, intellectually, emotionally and spiritually. This would never have happened had she flaked out and gone for a softer option in her choice of partner.
    Bring back the real men, girls. You might just remember why you loved them in the first place.

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    The reason the family is "ruined" is because now women carry as much financial power as men. Men are bitter that now, in addition to having to work, they're also expected to come home, cook, and help raise the kids. So they feel like they "lost" something because there isn't a woman following them around wiping their asses for them as a reward for sitting at a desk eight hours a day.

    What's especially hilarious is that despite the fact that the vast majority of women WORK *and* take on the lion's share of housework and childrearing, men still act like they're "the provider". Meanwhile, women who hold careers have long since realized that hey, a career is actually LESS work than singlehandedly running a household and raising kids. Plus, you get money for it. The jig is up. Hell, it's BEEN up for 30 years. Suck it up.

    Feminism didn't ruin the nuclear family. It ruined the illusion that men actually do something that justifies the need to be catered to for the rest of the day. Aw. Now go empty the trash like I told you.
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    tiger - fantastic article - apart from his attitude about cheating, where he seemed a little TOO blase, I agree whole heartedly. I have had partners who have been whipped and it is NO fun. I prefer a partner where we can have discussions about any number of subjects, aren't afraid to say what we think, can argue without worrying too much about treading on over-sensitive toes, and treat each other with respect without fawning. It's also sometimes nice to have someone (metaphorically) slap you across the face and tell you you're being ridiculous/irrational
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    Originally Posted by tiger20 View Post
    Women thought the last victory of equality was to make men more 'sensitive'. The bitter irony, says this male writer in a piece that will infuriate the opposite sex (including his wife Liz Jones), is women don't like wimps after all...
    At a dinner party recently, I encountered the depressingly familiar sight of a dynamic thirty- something woman accompanied by a nerdy male sidekick that she'd browbeaten into proposing to her.
    The mismatch in power was obvious. She was successful, ambitious and confident; he was a diffident, overweight, shrinking violet who measured every word he spoke in case he said anything remotely contentious that might offend her.
    On her wedding finger was the most enormous, glittering engagement ring. A mutual friend later told me she'd initially been presented with a less garish but more exquisite diamond but had told her fianc? to return it to the shop and get her something bigger.
    That huge diamond was his declaration of surrender in the sex war. But I didn't feel sorry for the stupid sap; he should have been man enough to tell her to get lost and find some other dummy.
    Instead, he'd been sucker-punched into a lifetime of nagging and neglect, and looking at his bossy wife-to-be parading her huge rock, I felt a shiver of pre-emptive schadenfreude.
    Her smug smile might have given the impression that her glossy-magazine-inspired life was all going to plan, but I could see the tragedy to come.
    One day she'll realise how dull and unfulfilling it is to have a man who doesn't answer back, who offers no challenge or danger - but by then she'll be over the hill and stuck with him for fear of being left on the shelf. Sadly, this is the state of many marriages today.
    Back in the Nineties, emboldened by the successes of feminism, women sought to slay the dragon of patriarchy by turning men into ridiculous cissies who would cry with them through chick-flicks and then cook up a decent lasagne.
    Suddenly, women wanted to drive home their newfound equality by moulding men to be more like them.
    This velvet revolution was reflected in a series of broader cultural changes. After decades of uncompromising movie heroes like Marlon Brando and Clint Eastwood, we were asked to fall for stuttering, floppy-haired fops like Hugh Grant; touchy-feely and hopelessly embarrassed around women.
    No doubt at the time, millions of misguided single women thought that having a man who could feel their pain and emote for Britain was a Good Thing.
    Now, over a decade later, women are waking up to the fact that these men are drippy, sexless bores. The feminisation of men hasn't produced the well-rounded uber-males women were hoping for.
    Instead, women are now lumped with flabby invertebrates, little more than doormats, whom they secretly despise but are too proud to admit it.
    Rather than partnership, professional women tend to seek dominance in a relationship. They map their lives out early on and pursue their dream of 'having it all' with cold-blooded ruthlessness.
    Young women have a crystal-clear agenda: they want the career, the wardrobe, the smartly furnished house, the 4x4 and the cute kids they'll ferry in it to expensive schools. No man is going to get in their way; and the men they choose for themselves are pliant and feeble enough to facilitate that programme.
    Concentrating so much energy on work and family matters requires these women to pick a man who is predictable and secure, who won't upset the apple cart by pursuing dreams and instincts of his own.
    These are cardboard cut-out men who gush with empathy whenever their wives and girlfriends need to dump their professional stresses and female angst on them: weak and soulless men who haven't the guts to make a mark themselves, who take the passenger seat in their women's juggernaut journey to post-feminist Nirvana.
    But having ticked off the various items on their life checklist, women are left with a nagging sense of dissatisfaction. Where was the drama? Where was the passion? Where was the stimulation and growth?
    It was all forsaken for an anodyne, materialistic shopping spree that is a Good Thing. ultimately a poor substitute for a real life. These women consider themselves to be alpha-females, but they are nothing but a pathetic sham.
    A true Amazon couldn't stand the company of a supplicant male, let alone marry one. Real alpha-women are the ones who can more than hold their own with an alpha-man.
    Deep down, women love men who stand up to them, who won't be pushed around. They love men who will look them in the eye and tell them to shut up when their hormonal bickering has become too much.
    They love men who will draw a line in the sand and walk out on them when they've had enough. They love men who know their own minds and are man enough to stick to their guns.
    I'm always telling my wife, the writer Liz Jones, to shut up. She gets into a prissy huff about it, but I know she respects me for not indulging her neuroticism. Long ago, I realised it is unhealthy for a man to embroil himself in arguments with women.
    While men want an argument to make sense and have a rational conclusion, women solely want the argument itself: it's a pressure valve for their emotions, and once they get started there is no stopping them.
    I have a very low boredom threshold; I can't bear having protracted discussions about where my wife and I 'are going'. Nor can I bear to listen to the gossipy, highly detailed 'He said, she said' monologues that women drift into when telling you about their day.
    I deal with these elements of the female personality with impassive indifference. People might call me a sexist pig, but I am the opposite. I love women, and I love my wife because she is brilliant and incredibly strong.
    I am a true feminist, because I only want to be with a powerful and capable woman. No sexist could cope with having a wife as intelligent and independent as mine.
    Our relationship would never have worked had I been an effete New Man, desperately wanting to sympathise with the female condition.
    My wife would have grown to loathe me for my fawning cowardice. She is a warrior and she needs to be with someone who is a match for her. Knowing the limits of what I will deal with in a relationship, I maintain my self-respect and, accordingly, gain hers.
    Men are now generally terrified of women. They hold their tongues for fear of being misinterpreted as sexist; they constantly attempt to secondguess their partner in order to avoid giving offence.
    They preen themselves with groaning shelves full of beauty products so they won't incur derision and scorn. They suppress their masculinity and present themselves as cuddly Mr Nice Guys, and won't project self- confidence in case it's regarded as unreconstructed machismo.
    This backfiring feminist conspiracy has, of course, developed hand in hand with the march of raging political correctness in Britain. The two have combined like some potent chemical reaction to explode in the faces of a generation of women who thought that a 'moulded' man would make for a desirable one.
    In recent years, men have been trained like circus seals to be inoffensive to women, and no longer know how to entice them and turn them on.
    But women secretly long for a man with swagger, who is cocky and selfassured and has the cheek to stand up them and make fun of their feminine foibles.
    They long for the rakish charm of a man who knows there's a whole ocean of fish out there, who isn't afraid of being himself in case he is rejected.
    The truth is, a real man doesn't care what any woman thinks of him. He doesn't care what anyone thinks of him: he answers solely to his spirit.
    Real men don't pretend or even try to understand women. They simply love them for being the mysterious, capricious creatures that they are. And they don't take them too seriously, either. They know the vicissitudes of the female mind, its constant insecurities and the fluctuations in mood.
    Rather than pander to them, they simply watch them drift by like so many clouds on the horizon. They don't get entangled in a woman's feelings and listen to her prattling on and on until she's talked herself out. Such strong and stoic men are exactly what women need to anchor themselves amid the chaos of their emotions.
    Sometimes my wife bemoans my detachment and laissez-faire attitude to our marriage and wishes I were more wrapped up in her. I tell her she would soon get bored of it, because men who put women on a pedestal can't make love to them in the way that women want.
    A man who is too in awe of his woman isn't going to tear her blouse open and ravish her on the couch; he isn't going to pull her hair and whisper profanities in her ear. Whenever my marriage is at a crisis point, and my wife's ego and mine are jostling for a position of supremacy, we inevitably have strenuous, battling sex.
    My wife is older and more successful than I am, but the bedroom has always been the arena in which I have brought her down to earth.
    The female orgasm is the natural mechanism by which men assert dominion over women: a man who appreciates this can negotiate whatever difficulties arise in his relationships with them.
    Last Christmas, my wife threw me out after discovering I'd been cheating on her. On the night we got back together, I made strong, passionate love to her. Unfaithful as I'd been, I was not going to let her have me over a barrel for the rest of our marriage. I needed to keep a sense of self and not allow her to mire me in guilt and a desperate quest of forgiveness.
    I needed to let her know what she would be missing if we broke up for ever. I gave her a manful bravura performance that night, and at the height of her passion, I asked her: 'Who's the boss?'
    The question threw her. Initially she wouldn't give me a reply, but I enticed it from her. 'You are,' she finally gasped. 'You are!' I am a very difficult man to be with. I know I have caused my wife great pain and anxiety. But she is an adult, and ultimately it is wholly her choice whether she wants to be with me or not - I cannot be anyone other than myself.
    I don't believe in working on relationships and making artificial efforts to give them substance. I believe in people being themselves and following their hearts towards whatever destiny lies before them.
    When women choose to be with New Men, they are choosing a life that will be only half-lived. I think a lot of them are finally waking up to that fact. Relationships between independent and assertive people will always be fraught with tensions, but they have enormous creative energy.
    Despite the many problems my wife and I have endured, we have both come a long way since we first met six years ago.
    We have challenged one another to grow - professionally, intellectually, emotionally and spiritually. This would never have happened had she flaked out and gone for a softer option in her choice of partner.
    Bring back the real men, girls. You might just remember why you loved them in the first place.

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