i'm doing a ph cycle but i'm not sure if should i continue using milk thistle since some experts like big cat says prtecting your liver will cause this,he says is better to do it post cycle,anyone can tell me their own experience since some people start to protect the liver during cycles,what is the best choice,during or after?
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02-07-2006, 07:45 AM #1
taking liver protection during PH cycle may decrease a high conversion orally
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02-07-2006, 08:22 AM #2
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Originally Posted by minicoobanRIP Steve Irwin :(
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02-07-2006, 09:04 AM #4
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Originally Posted by minicoobanRIP Steve Irwin :(
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02-07-2006, 09:11 AM #5
I take liver protection on any cycle of anything oral at all. Period.
Let's go WAY out on a limb here and say that you know up front that taking liver protection will cost you 10% (an outrageous number, but it doesn't matter) of your gains. Why in the world would you NOT take it? You can get more of whatever you're running and do another cycle in the future. Your liver is a resilient organ, but is putting it in unnecessary jeopardy really worth the extra 10% (again, an OUTRAGEOUS number)? Let's say you run a hardcore steroid stack part of which is an oral like Anavar for 8 weeks and gain 20 pounds without liver protection, are you really going to jeopardize your liver for those extra 2 pounds (10%)? If you answer yes, you have no business running anything as you will undoubtedly kill yourself in the near future. Take the liver protection and be happy about doing so. Your health just isn't worth it!
Good luck!
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02-07-2006, 09:33 PM #13Originally Posted by Guardian
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02-07-2006, 09:50 PM #14
listen to GG hes a real smart guy...
liver protectant is a necessity for any PH(or steroid) pre,during, and post cycle (esp. if it is oral)
i think i also read a study where milk thistle did not effect androgen receptor effectiveness however i cant find @ the moment.
saw plametto on the otherhand u could take post cycle only unless ur prone to prostate problems or ur over 30 because it can negatively effect ur gains (debatable though)
**personally my number one priority is my health so i take a light dose of saw palmetto and heavy dosed milk thistle on and off cycle just because i want to be safe. ive done 2 cycles and almost done with a 3rd cycle and ive seen amazing gains. worry about ur PCT and train/eat ur ass off and ull be fine
*RZO
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