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    Best book for bodybuilding/workout

    The default seems to be Arnolds Encyclopedia, but it looks like his program might really only benefit dopers, which I am not. I checked into Beyond Brawn by Stuart McRobert, but I'm not sure about that one either.

    Is there a be all/end all book that is a pretty comprehensive guide to bodybuilding (nutrition, supplements, workout programs, etc)? I'm doing fine right now using programs from friends and bodybuilding4u.com, but I'm a book guy and I'd like to have a book handy instead of getting online all the time.
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    "Natural Bodybuilding" by John Hansen is my favorite.
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    "Natural Bodybuilding" by John Hansen is my favorite.
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    Anyone heard of The Encyclopedia of Muscle and Strength? Got it for Christmas...
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    I personally like the Stuart McRobert books. I have adopted alot ideas and have made better gains then ever before. I have never heard of Natural Bodybuilding. I will have to look that up. I am always open to something new.
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    Originally Posted by tacoop View Post
    I personally like the Stuart McRobert books. I have adopted alot ideas and have made better gains then ever before. I have never heard of Natural Bodybuilding. I will have to look that up. I am always open to something new.
    I Agree, Stuart's Brawn, Beyond Brawn & Technique Book Are All Great Resources. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!
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    Originally Posted by parsec1982 View Post
    I Agree, Stuart's Brawn, Beyond Brawn & Technique Book Are All Great Resources. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!
    they are good, but do experiment on volume and freq for your self. Stu's stuff is very low volume and I'd say the vast majority can handle a lot more.
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    The Arnold Book....it Gives You A Good Solid Basic Selection Of Excercises.......i Dont See How Its More For Guys Who Need Artificial Help.

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    Originally Posted by tacoop View Post
    I personally like the Stuart McRobert books. I have adopted alot ideas and have made better gains then ever before. I have never heard of Natural Bodybuilding. I will have to look that up. I am always open to something new.
    a friend emailed me the whole book in pdf. good read.
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    Originally Posted by clm12704 View Post
    The default seems to be Arnolds Encyclopedia, but it looks like his program might really only benefit dopers, which I am not. I checked into Beyond Brawn by Stuart McRobert, but I'm not sure about that one either.

    Is there a be all/end all book that is a pretty comprehensive guide to bodybuilding (nutrition, supplements, workout programs, etc)? I'm doing fine right now using programs from friends and bodybuilding4u.com, but I'm a book guy and I'd like to have a book handy instead of getting online all the time.
    Best gains of my life were following one of Arnolds routines and I am and was natural. It just depends on how badly you want it.

    Good books?

    Robert Wolffs "Bodybuilding 101", "Bodybuilding 201"

    Hansens book "Natural Bodybuilding"
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    Originally Posted by clm12704 View Post
    The default seems to be Arnolds Encyclopedia, but it looks like his program might really only benefit dopers, which I am not. I checked into Beyond Brawn by Stuart McRobert, but I'm not sure about that one either.

    Is there a be all/end all book that is a pretty comprehensive guide to bodybuilding (nutrition, supplements, workout programs, etc)? I'm doing fine right now using programs from friends and bodybuilding4u.com, but I'm a book guy and I'd like to have a book handy instead of getting online all the time.
    I agree with the other posters that Stu McRobert's books are definitely best of the best.

    Beyond Brawn is great for overall program structure and nutrition. The Insider's Guide will teach you the proper technique for the most productive exercises.

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    Pavel Tsatsouline's Beyond Bodybuilding. Stuart McRobert's Weightlifting Technique book and Brawn/Beyond Brawn. Pretty much covers everything you need except nutrition.

    Chris Aceto has supposedly great bodybuilding nutrition books.
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    Beyond novice, 5 3 1 or see above:)

    Unless it is obvious to anyone who isn't blind that you lift weights, you might still benefit from a little more attention to big basic barbell exercises for enough reps:).
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    Arnold 's Encyclopedia is definetly my favorite .. " The Bible of Bodybuilding " lol ....

    Mike Mentzer has a couple books as well that are very interesting ... I don't agree with some of his training principles but they are still a good read.
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    Definitely Mark Rippetoe's "Starting Strength". even if you're not doing his program, this book will teach you training/strength theory in a very readable fashion.
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    Strength Training Anatomy - very helpful.

    It's a great supplement to have in your library.

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    Stuart McRobert's "Build Muscle, Lose Fat, Look Great" is awesome. The only thing crap about this book is the title.
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    Beyond Brawn

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    Here's the entire book, btw--

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    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    Best gains of my life were following one of Arnolds routines and I am and was natural. It just depends on how badly you want it.

    Good books?

    Robert Wolffs "Bodybuilding 101", "Bodybuilding 201"

    Hansens book "Natural Bodybuilding"

    At 5'11" 237 and natural, you would have to have a fairly large bone structure to carry that much mass, unless your fat, which is highly unlikely.

    So yes, you would thrive on a high volume routine, those of us with medium to small frames are going to struggle with his volume of work,[20 sets and more a body part] no matter how bad we want it!
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    At 5'11" 237 and natural, you would have to have a fairly large bone structure to carry that much mass, unless your fat, which is highly unlikely.

    So yes, you would thrive on a high volume routine, those of us with medium to small frames are going to struggle with his volume of work,[20 sets and more a body part] no matter how bad we want it!
    Are you for real? Wanna discuss bodybuilding potential and ****totyping with me?

    BULL****. Don't even start with me. I am 237 because I have been busting my ass for years. I was 145 when I graduated from high school.

    I have a medium bone structure (both of my parents are slim). I'm actually an ectomorphic endomorph smart guy.

    If you want to puss out and call yourself a "hardgainer", which is a LOSERS mentality, then be my guest.

    Don't drag others down with you, and don't drag my accomplishments down because you don't have the guts, desire, or knowledge to do it.

    IT IS A LOSER MENTALITY TO THINK ANYONE WITH RESULTS HAD BETTER GENETICS THAN YOU.

    It's like signing up for the short bus, just in case.


    Stuart McRobert is chock full of propaganda. Anyone with half a brain can see it. He is SELLING YOU HIMSELF AS A GURU.

    "Those other guys are wrong, only I will tell you the truth". "You are different, you need me, don't listen to others." TYPICAL "LESS IS MORE" BS.

    FYI, smart ass, my training partner was an EXTREME ecto. Who had hardly trained before. Guess what? He got A LOT bigger. A LOT. Everyone thought he was on drugs. If you think I am saying this just to prove my point, feel free to search my posts for descriptions of my Arnold training, and my training partners experience.
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    Originally Posted by Ironized View Post
    ...those of us with medium to small frames are going to struggle with his volume of work,[20 sets and more a body part] no matter how bad we want it!
    Is that so.
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    Originally Posted by DJAuto View Post
    Is that so.
    Most bodybuilders DO NOT have large frames. I don't know where people come up with this ****.

    I guess they are afraid to admit that their training sucks, so they claim a disadvantage.
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    blah blah blah high volume blah blah blah
    stop trying to self yourself to me as a guru











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    Are you for real? Wanna discuss bodybuilding potential and ****totyping with me?

    BULL****. Don't even start with me. I am 237 because I have been busting my ass for years. I was 145 when I graduated from high school.

    I have a medium bone structure (both of my parents are slim). I'm actually an ectomorphic endomorph smart guy.

    If you want to puss out and call yourself a "hardgainer", which is a LOSERS mentality, then be my guest.

    Don't drag others down with you, and don't drag my accomplishments down because you don't have the guts, desire, or knowledge to do it.

    IT IS A LOSER MENTALITY TO THINK ANYONE WITH RESULTS HAD BETTER GENETICS THAN YOU.

    It's like signing up for the short bus, just in case.


    Stuart McRobert is chock full of propaganda. Anyone with half a brain can see it. He is SELLING YOU HIMSELF AS A GURU.

    "Those other guys are wrong, only I will tell you the truth". "You are different, you need me, don't listen to others." TYPICAL "LESS IS MORE" BS.

    FYI, smart ass, my training partner was an EXTREME ecto. Who had hardly trained before. Guess what? He got A LOT bigger. A LOT. Everyone thought he was on drugs. If you think I am saying this just to prove my point, feel free to search my posts for descriptions of my Arnold training, and my training partners experience.
    Easy big fella, I never ever said I was a hard gainer, as a matter of fact I was good enough to place fairly high in a couple of contests, but that happen only when I finally discovered that I respond best with 6-12 sets per bodypart.

    My point is, everybody is different, By the way... being edgy is the first sign of overtraining.
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    Originally Posted by Ironized View Post
    My point is, everybody is different, By the way... being edgy is the first sign of overtraining.
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    Originally Posted by Ironized View Post
    Easy big fella, I never ever said I was a hard gainer, as a matter of fact I was good enough to place fairly high in a couple of contests, but that happen only when I finally discovered that I respond best with 6-12 sets per bodypart.

    My point is, everybody is different, By the way... being edgy is the first sign of overtraining.
    Ahh...the old "blame the reactor, not the actor" mentality. It's ok for you to make insulting assumptions, yet I can't react....

    like I need you to clarify my posts for me, or to explain my context.

    I call it like I see it. If that is "edgy" to you, too bad.

    Sounds like you are living in the past maybe? My best days are still ahead of me.
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    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    Ahh...the old "blame the reactor, not the actor" mentality. It's ok for you to make insulting assumptions, yet I can't react....

    like I need you to clarify my posts for me, or to explain my context.

    I call it like I see it. If that is "edgy" to you, too bad.

    Sounds like you are living in the past maybe? My best days are still ahead of me.
    Insulting ? hardly, read my post. As for living in the past I threw the trophies away a long time ago, I love to train, but not to chase trophies any more, there are higher priorities at this stage of my life.

    I do hope that your best day are ahead of you my friend.
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    Originally Posted by Ironized View Post
    Insulting ? hardly, read my post. As for living in the past I threw the trophies away a long time ago, I love to train, but not to chase trophies any more, there are higher priorities at this stage of my life.

    I do hope that your best day are ahead of you my friend.
    Shall I point out the assumptions? And RE-explain why it was insulting? I think they are pretty obvious

    Originally Posted by Ironized
    At 5'11" 237 and natural, you would have to have a fairly large bone structure to carry that much mass, unless your fat, which is highly unlikely.
    incorrect assumption. as previously explained.

    So yes, you would thrive on a high volume routine, those of us with medium to small frames are going to struggle with his volume of work,[20 sets and more a body part] no matter how bad we want it!
    You assume I didn't struggle. Then dismiss my desire/hard work as a factor.

    Yes. You might have to struggle to substatially change your body. You might have to struggle too with college, career and marriage, and many things.
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    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    Best gains of my life were following one of Arnolds routines and I am and was natural. It just depends on how badly you want it.

    Good books?

    Robert Wolffs "Bodybuilding 101", "Bodybuilding 201"

    Hansens book "Natural Bodybuilding"
    The first assumption was made by you.. You assumed that becouse Arnolds routine did not work for me that I just didnt want it very badly,hardly the case my friend.
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