From what i've been noticing the world record holders in deadlift in the high weight classes have been using conventional deadlift techniques. While on the other hand the world record holders in the lower weight classes have been using sumo techniques. Is this a correct observation? And if yes, is there any reason to why the conventional works better for the bigger guys and the sumo work better for the littler guys?
Thread: Conventional vs Sumo Deadlift
02-04-2006, 05:08 PM #1
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02-04-2006, 05:17 PM #2
02-04-2006, 05:38 PM #3
What an ignorant question!
J/k dude...its a matter of personal choice and relative comfort for most people. You my friend are a true Sumo-style lifter, it fits you and your bodytype. BUT, that doesnt mean you couldnt learn and do well with conventional style.I have nothing to prove to anyone but myself.
02-04-2006, 06:34 PM #4
God only knows the full answer to that question. It's basicaly a personal choice, where do you feel stronger in the sumo or in the conventional position then run with it.
as far as big guys using more conventional and smaller guys using more sumo... well just thinking about it i could venture to say that for the smaller guys sumo stance realy shortens their range of movement quite considerably and pays off to choose sumo even if you are good at conventional too, and for bigger guys not so much. But who realy knows, it's mostly personal preference, can't realy generalise into heavies go convo lights go sumo.Moderator @ www.gorillabarbell.net/forums/
02-04-2006, 07:33 PM #5
02-04-2006, 08:22 PM #6
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I'm no expert. but imo i think it might be a height thing too. I pull conventional and am about 6"2 and 1/2 now without shoes. Yet, I compete at only 148.STRONGMAN Competitor
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02-04-2006, 08:54 PM #7
02-04-2006, 10:16 PM #8
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sumo has a sticking point right at the ground and it is a short sticking point. for a little dude, that is a VERY small sticking point.
for bigger dudes, a conventional deadlift has a sticking point a few inches off the ground. since you're moving much heavier weight and you have to go through a few inches of sticking point anyway, may as well get it off the ground first and accelerate the sucker
oddly enough, I've done both, and I really used to be quite even back when I was doing them both.Reps for Life - DinoT1985, grizz101, darkninja67, Snakethejake83, HurpnDurp, NoS_oUtLaSt
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02-04-2006, 11:07 PM #9
I am 6'1" 260 lbs. and I deadlift the exact same weight whether sumo or conventional. I think it just depends on what you concentrate on and practice.Current lifts
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02-05-2006, 05:57 AM #10
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It really is a comfort thing, nothing more. Yes, sumo shortens the rom but it shifts the weight to different leverages so it really doesn't matter much. I don't think you can say tall guys lift one way and short guys another. The reason the big deadlifts were done conventional is the guys who did them were freaks of strength, not because one technique is better than another.