Bulk nettle extract (65-95%) in place of activate X?

[sundevil04]

would bulk nettle extract (65-95%) work as well as Activate Xtreme if combined with bulk icariin and an AI?

[user98511001541]

possibly, but you would have no idea what extact you were getting... most likley 65 or lower...

why not just get activate extreme and regenesen? both use 95%, the highest extract of nettle root, regenesen contains 6-bromo (AI)

quest solved

[deserusan]

No it would not.

[anty]

No it would not.

If its 95% why not? A certain warehouse states that their?s is 95%

[blinky99]

ask em to prove it, or buy and analyz it ur self

[eldawg]

Didn't the original Activate bottle list their extract similarly between 65-95%...has this changed with Activate Extreme?

[MattMB]

i order bulk nettle over 1 year ago and took it at the same dose as the original activate and it gave me good strengths gains

[Nailbomb9]

i order bulk nettle over 1 year ago and took it at the same dose as the original activate and it gave me good strengths gains

But it just CAN'T man!! There's no way!! You HAVE to buy the overpriced stuff don't you know...

[anty]

ask em to prove it, or buy and analyz it ur self

I really do support Designer Supplements and I think AE is a great product. I used it and it works dam well. However, I don?t see how the 95% Nettle root in AE could be any better then the 95% bulk Nettle root. Now, the new AE has a few other things in it such as IC3 which may add a little more kick to the product but 95% Nettle root is 95% Nettle root as far as I can tell.

[Nailbomb9]

I really do support Designer Supplements and I think AE is a great product. I used it and it works dam well. However, I don?t see how the 95% Nettle root in AE could be any better then the 95% bulk Nettle root. Now, the new AE has a few other things in it such as IC3 which may add a little more kick to the product but 95% Nettle root is 95% Nettle root as far as I can tell.

I agree with ALL of this. DS does put out some kick ass products...

[user98511001541]

95% Nettle root is 95% Nettle root as far as I can tell.

how do u know ur getting 95%? is the source verifiable/trustworthy? 65-95% is huge, and most likely the lower end of the spectrum. Do you know that all of the items in ACTX work synergistically together to create the anabolic environment it does.

if u can consistently get high quality bulk items then by all means it would work, but it would be risky and possibly expensive to buy true bulk powders(10kg+ per order)

[nni]

would bulk nettle extract (65-95%) work as well as Activate Xtreme if combined with bulk icariin and an AI?

des is right no. now if you are comparing it to original activate, then sure.

first off, actX doesnt have an ai, so you are changing the product by adding one, if you add the bulk icariin, also add the bulk rhodiola rosea and then the bulk basella alba PE and yes you hae the same product.

if you simply took the bulk nettle, the bulk icariin and an ai you would have a decent product, but it would be different from actX.

But it just CAN'T man!! There's no way!! You HAVE to buy the overpriced stuff don't you know...

yes, first off, never support the innovators, always support the rip off artists. secondly always trust people who will sell you stuff in bulk because every company marks the price up by 1000% and you know 100% that the bulk companies get good quality ingredients, i mean the chinese suppliers send them a COA and everything, no need for third party testing.

[user98511001541]

secondly always trust people who will sell you stuff in bulk because every company marks the price up by 1000% and you know 100% that the bulk companies get good quality ingredients, i mean the chinese suppliers send them a COA and everything, no need for third party testing.

lol

[anty]

[QUOTE=nni;122727101]des is right no. now if you are comparing it to original activate, then sure.

This is all I'm saying. And the original activate was an excellent product.

[nni]

[QUOTE=anty;122742571]

des is right no. now if you are comparing it to original activate, then sure.

This is all I'm saying. And the original activate was an excellent product.

as long as you trust bulk suppliers (which i used to, but not so much anymore) then go for it.

[anty]

how do u know ur getting 95%? is the source verifiable/trustworthy? 65-95% is huge, and most likely the lower end of the spectrum. Do you know that all of the items in ACTX work synergistically together to create the anabolic environment it does.

if u can consistently get high quality bulk items then by all means it would work, but it would be risky and possibly expensive to buy true bulk powders(10kg+ per order)

It's my understanding that the nettle root in ACTX and the 95% from a certain warehouse are coming from the same source. However, I do agree that ACTX has ingredients that work synergistically and is therefore a bit better but 95% bulk would be the same as the original. I'm trying a cycle of both ACTX as well as 95% to see if there is any noticeable difference. The original ACT stacked with 6oxo was a pretty sick stack though.

[nni]

It's my understanding that the nettle root in ACTX and the 95% from a certain warehouse are coming from the same source. However, I do agree that ACTX has ingredients that work synergistically and is therefore a bit better but 95% bulk would be the same as the original. I'm trying a cycle of both ACTX as well as 95% to see if there is any noticeable difference. The original ACT stacked with 6oxo was a pretty sick stack though.

i dont know thats the case, but it is, then sure, you are set, just cap it.

[anty]

I just want to say for the record that I by no means am trying to undermine ACTX. I think it is an excellent product and I also think that Designer Supplements is one of the best companies in the industry. Their products are top notch and they all do exactly what they say. Sledge is also one of the most upstanding guys on this form that actually gives a dam about what his customers are putting into their body.

[nni]

I just want to say for the record that I by no means am trying to undermine ACTX. I think it is an excellent product and I also think that Designer Supplements is one of the best companies in the industry. Their products are top notch and they all do exactly what they say. Sledge is also one of the most upstanding guys on this form that actually gives a dam about what his customers are putting into their body.

too late, youre on the list. (no hall and oates)

[anty]

too late, youre on the list. (no hall and oates)

I?ve heard of this list. They say once your one it you have a tendency to disappear.

[Sldge]

Even if you get the same Nettle extract as Divanil (which is possible) and even if you get the quality extract of Icariin (and I stress quality as Ive seen about 8 crappy extracts of the supposed same quality from different sources) you are still missing the most important compound of the entire formula and thats the Basella Alba extract. Not to mention the I3C and Rhod.

Here is what I always say about home brewing certain bulk formulas, go for it. After you get done buying all the raws (assuming the quality is good), buying a good scale, measuring out all the ingredients and capping them, my guess is youll never do it more then twice. And then youll realize that even if you saved $5 its not worth the hassle. Its a HUGE pain in the ass. I cap new formulas Im trying out about once a week and I hate every minute of it. Ive been doing this for a very long time and it gets old REAL quick.

So I wish anyone trying it good luck, youll need it.

[Nailbomb9]

des is right no. now if you are comparing it to original activate, then sure.

first off, actX doesnt have an ai, so you are changing the product by adding one, if you add the bulk icariin, also add the bulk rhodiola rosea and then the bulk basella alba PE and yes you hae the same product.

if you simply took the bulk nettle, the bulk icariin and an ai you would have a decent product, but it would be different from actX.



yes, first off, never support the innovators, always support the rip off artists. secondly always trust people who will sell you stuff in bulk because every company marks the price up by 1000% and you know 100% that the bulk companies get good quality ingredients, i mean the chinese suppliers send them a COA and everything, no need for third party testing.

Guess you chose to ignore the fact I said DS puts out some good products so you could write your big shhssspeeel huh? Think I'll delete it now so your above post will look even cooler...

[nni]

Guess you chose to ignore the fact I said DS puts out some good products so you could write your big shhssspeeel huh? Think I'll delete it now so your above post will look even cooler...

guess sarcasm is completely lost on you. get angry over a joke on the internet, good for you.

[Nailbomb9]

guess sarcasm is completely lost on you. get angry over a joke on the internet, good for you.

You don't know what the "puck" you're talking about...

[user98511001541]

in reference to what sldge said, i capped my AI cycle support and it took me a while to do it, and that was not including weighing anything... it was awful messy too

[user1111]

Even if you get the same Nettle extract as Divanil (which is possible) and even if you get the quality extract of Icariin (and I stress quality as Ive seen about 8 crappy extracts of the supposed same quality from different sources) you are still missing the most important compound of the entire formula and thats the Basella Alba extract. Not to mention the I3C and Rhod.

Here is what I always say about home brewing certain bulk formulas, go for it. After you get done buying all the raws (assuming the quality is good), buying a good scale, measuring out all the ingredients and capping them, my guess is youll never do it more then twice. And then youll realize that even if you saved $5 its not worth the hassle. Its a HUGE pain in the ass. I cap new formulas Im trying out about once a week and I hate every minute of it. Ive been doing this for a very long time and it gets old REAL quick.

So I wish anyone trying it good luck, youll need it.

You should publize the 8 crappy extracts test sheets to prove the point and it would be great form a marketing perspecitive.

[Sldge]

You should publize the 8 crappy extracts test sheets to prove the point and it would be great form a marketing perspecitive.

Its a thought. You can see the difference between quality and crap just by seeing the color. Good Icariin is a light yellow color, crappy is brown. If I get some free time Ill see if I can scan them. I should be able to take some picks of the different extracts so peple can atleast see a difference with their own eyes.

[Sldge]

in reference to what sldge said, i capped my AI cycle support and it took me a while to do it, and that was not including weighing anything... it was awful messy too

Yeah that sounds like it. Like I said Ive been doing this for a very long time, Ive got a very good scale and cap pretty quickly and I still hate doing it. So anyone who thinks they are saving money should think twice. You have to pay shipping on all the bulk ingredients, besides getting amounts of powder that you may not use all at once that then need to be stored correctly. And there is no way anyone is getting the right extract of Basella Alba.

I would homebrew the stuff that you as an idividual want in aproduct that you cant get by combining one or two products together. Thats where you have the advantage and really save money. Not by trying to make a lesser quality lower cost version of something that is awesome and does exactly what it should. But thats me.

[user1111]

Its a thought. You can see the difference between quality and crap just by seeing the color. Good Icariin is a light yellow color, crappy is brown. If I get some free time Ill see if I can scan them. I should be able to take some picks of the different extracts so peple can atleast see a difference with their own eyes.

As consumers, we never see the extract just the capsule:}

[Sldge]

As consumers, we never see the extract just the capsule:}

Yeah...but if some people are buying it in bulk they will definitely see the color. But you are 100% right. Ill try and take pics tonight.