TREN 13-Ethyl

[SameolG]

http://mysupplementstore.com/m125byxsla.html

anything you all can tell me about this would be great. Thanks.

[SameolG]

the reason I ask is because I ordered Havoc and they won't have anymore for a few more weeks and the sales rep, said this stuff is supposed to be better than Havoc, so I am oped to all thoughts you may have.....thanks again.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by SameolG

http://mysupplementstore.com/m125byxsla.html

anything you all can tell me about this would be great. Thanks.

i will tell you one thing i read that review and they made up a bunch of lies. saying its an anti-progestin. thats BS

here is my review of the compound, which will be in the upcoming md


You probably have heard of norbolethone. It was the first version of the clear and was a drug once developed by Wyeth as an anabolic steroid but was either never marketed or only marketed for a very brief period. Anyway, this compound here is chemically related to norbolethone. In fact it can be used to make norbolethone by a pretty straightforward series of two chemical reactions that can be done in one pot.

Now just because you can make norbolethone from the stuff in the lab does not mean your body can make norbolethone from it after you ingest it. And just because it has chemical similarities to norbolethone does not mean it has pharmacological similarities either. It certainly does not ? norbolethone was a potent drug and this stuff is definitely not.

When you ingest this compound the first thing it would do is convert to a 3 oxo derivative in the acid of your stomach. After that you would have a dione and then that dione would partially convert into an active compound known as 13b-ethyl-4-gonen-17b-ol-3-one. This active compound is listed in Vida as being a bit less potent than testosterone anabolically, and given the fact that it is a dione it is converting from makes me conclude that the stuff is gonna be less than impressive. Now that?s not to say it will be worthless, just that it probably is not worth the money (its not a cheap compound).

As far as side effects go that is hard to say. It may convert to an estrogen which could give water retention and gyno risk. The stuff also may have progestational activity. And as far as suppression goes my guess is that it is more suppressive than a typical testosterone precursor.

[WCC]

this is a clone of ALRI MAX LMG.

first of all, it's a progestin, so it's very suppressive of the HPTA - from the reviews i've read of MAX LMG and Revolt, this compound causes severe shutdown.
wet gains (i.e. water retention).
can easily aggravate gyno.

apart from this, it seems a decent product - gives impressive gains in mass and strength. i wouldn't recommend it as a first cycle though.

[SameolG]

thanks for that P.A., the company is giving it to me at the same price as the HAVOC, so I was open to it. It hasn't hit my door step yet, but compared to Superdrol NG, which is better?

[SameolG]

opinions??????

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by WCC

this is a clone of ALRI MAX LMG.

first of all, it's a progestin,

why do you call it a progestin? where has it ever been referred to as a progestin in the literature?

it does not have any side chain off of C17, which is essentially a prerequisite for 19nor to exhibit strong progestational activity

it may have some mild progestational activity, but i do not see it having that much. Certainly not enough for it to every be classified as a progestin

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by SameolG

thanks for that P.A., the company is giving it to me at the same price as the HAVOC, so I was open to it. It hasn't hit my door step yet, but compared to Superdrol NG, which is better?

as an anabolic? this stuff for sure

[SameolG]

well as for a supp that will give the best results combined with proper diet and work outs......

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by SameolG

well as for a supp that will give the best results combined with proper diet and work outs......

i gave you a specific parameter. anabolism. and i offered you my view on that

you come back wanting to know how it measures in regards to "best results"

sorry, i don't know how this stuff assays out as a best-resultagen. perhaps some other guru can chime on that one

look man, its been a crappy day

[SameolG]

I hear you on a crappy day, try being a Marine, and working for superiors that only care about themselves, and not all of the junior Marines.....

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by SameolG

I hear you on a crappy day, try being a Marine, and working for superiors that only care about themselves, and not all of the junior Marines.....

you have access to weapons i assume.

that would not be good for me on my bad day

[SameolG]

well for everyones safety, they keep them locked away from me.......or you may see my face on CNN

[DOMESKI]

One of the funnier threads/responses i've seen on here.

I needed to see that sh*t, considering my forum experienced consisted of..

- Receiving homosexual PMs
- Asked if stacking pheraplex with muscle milk is "good"?
- Questioned about how to stop a nipple from dripping post cycle
- Trying to trade for mass tabs, unsuccessfully.
Im just going to answer all PMs with "Up the dose". That should make it more interested.

A laugh was needed. (American Gladiators isnt doing the trick)

[koi1214]

Originally Posted by DOMESKI

One of the funnier threads/responses i've seen on here.

I needed to see that sh*t, considering my forum experienced consisted of..

- Receiving homosexual PMs
- Asked if stacking pheraplex with muscle milk is "good"?
- Questioned about how to stop a nipple from dripping post cycle
- Trying to trade for mass tabs, unsuccessfully.
Im just going to answer all PMs with "Up the dose". That should make it more interested.

A laugh was needed. (American Gladiators isnt doing the trick)

LMAO

[VaughnTrue]

Originally Posted by DOMESKI

One of the funnier threads/responses i've seen on here.

I needed to see that sh*t, considering my forum experienced consisted of..

- Receiving homosexual PMs
- Asked if stacking pheraplex with muscle milk is "good"?
- Questioned about how to stop a nipple from dripping post cycle
- Trying to trade for mass tabs, unsuccessfully.
Im just going to answer all PMs with "Up the dose". That should make it more interested.

A laugh was needed. (American Gladiators isnt doing the trick)

check pms

[SameolG]

so what does everyone else think about this?

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by SameolG

so what does everyone else think about this?

if you took the stuff and reacted it with methyl grignard reagent or methyllithium you would have a very powerful steroid

[NeXMuScLe]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

if you took the stuff and reacted it with methyl grignard reagent or methyllithium you would have a very powerful steroid

is either easily attainable?

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by NeXMuScLe

is either easily attainable?

these are extremely reactive and water sensitive reagents. you would need proper equipment and training to utilize them safely and effectively

you don't just throw everything in a pot together, unless you want it to explode in your face

[SameolG]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

if you took the stuff and reacted it with methyl grignard reagent or methyllithium you would have a very powerful steroid

Dang, wish I had the know how, but I may run this supplement, once I finish my Superdrol NG.....

[Neck Harness LancerV]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

if you took the stuff and reacted it with methyl grignard reagent or methyllithium you would have a very powerful steroid

Isnt that the same stuff used to make meth?

[NeXMuScLe]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

these are extremely reactive and water sensitive reagents. you would need proper equipment and training to utilize them safely and effectively

you don't just throw everything in a pot together, unless you want it to explode in your face

hell i was just wondering, i am no chemist
nor do i have any sort of equipment readily
available to mix chemicals in my house.
parents would probably kill me lol.

[damnglass]

Originally Posted by Neck Harness LancerV

Isnt that the same stuff used to make meth?

lmao now that you mention it,thats what happens if you make meth wrong,it blows up,so yeah i think so.

[damnglass]

Originally Posted by Neck Harness LancerV

Isnt that the same stuff used to make meth?

lmao now that you mention it,thats what happens if you mix meth wrong,it blows up,so yeah i think so,then again i dont even know what goes into meth,props to pa for fooling some people if that was his way of getting a laugh.

[DCarruso]

Originally Posted by SameolG

so what does everyone else think about this?

You paid for Havoc and you are accepting this underwhelming piece of whatever?

PA gave you the answer and you obviously not grasping what he wrote.


Since you are hoping to hear something good, so here goes. WOW! You got some hot stuff there! Smoke'm if you got'em! You will get huge, bro!

[weezyjaunt]

Originally Posted by DCarruso

You paid for Havoc and you are accepting this underwhelming piece of whatever?

PA gave you the answer and you obviously not grasping what he wrote.


Since you are hoping to hear something good, so here goes. WOW! You got some hot stuff there! Smoke'm if you got'em! You will get huge, bro!

lol, if you are gonna ignore PA's analysis on this stuff, who the hell are you gonna listen to?

[koi1214]

Originally Posted by SameolG

the reason I ask is because I ordered Havoc and they won't have anymore for a few more weeks and the sales rep, said this stuff is supposed to be better than Havoc, so I am oped to all thoughts you may have.....thanks again.

Why not order Epithin-E from Generic Labz from them?It is the same thing as Havoc.

[onehawaiian]

who writes this stuff? how old is it?
i seem to have read this on the Revolt ad as well...
apparently a few ppl have indeed heard of this compound, and the write-up.
LOL

The active compound in Tren 13-Ethyl by NRG-X Labs is 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one. I find it unlikely that there are very many aware of this structure, but it is certainly worth discussing.

REVOLT is our next generation lean body mass altering goodie. The active compound in REVOLT is 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one. I find it unlikely that there are very many aware of this structure, but it is certainly worth discussing.

on that note, i think Max LMG is pretty good. another clone would be BCL Super Tren-MG. my brother came off that cycle last month i believe.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by DCarruso

You paid for Havoc and you are accepting this underwhelming piece of whatever?

PA gave you the answer and you obviously not grasping what he wrote.


Since you are hoping to hear something good, so here goes. WOW! You got some hot stuff there! Smoke'm if you got'em! You will get huge, bro!

this stuff is an interesting compound chemically speaking. It just does not look very impressive in the literature.

hey the literature could always be wrong and people may get decent results from it. i know if i had my hands on some raw powder i would slap a methyl group on it