Could be an average athlete and still compete in top level MMA?

[DarkByDesign]

well what do you guys think?

do you think someone who isnt gifted athletically could compete successfully in say the UFC by just training for a large portion of their lives?

im asking this because in most other sports, no matter how hard lots of people work, they will never reach the top level because only the best athlete AND the most skilled people get there. personally i think MMA is becoming more and more like that, and will continue to do so as the sport expands. But say you got some guy with normal genetics and trains hard for extended periods, you reckon he will ever get above the smaller shows?

[injured44]

right now = yes



in 30 years when everyone starts doing MMA then only the best athletes will rise to the top and you ownt have anymore tim sylvias, chris lebens, or ken flos

[wannabepl47]

well what do you guys think?

do you think someone who isnt gifted athletically could compete successfully in say the UFC by just training for a large portion of their lives?

im asking this because in most other sports, no matter how hard lots of people work, they will never reach the top level because only the best athlete AND the most skilled people get there. personally i think MMA is becoming more and more like that, and will continue to do so as the sport expands. But say you got some guy with normal genetics and trains hard for extended periods, you reckon he will ever get above the smaller shows?

MMA is a completely different sport though, you can succeed through many different ways. Each different MA lends itself to a different skillset. Also each bodytype can utilise different strategies and technique. Not to mention there are weight classes. Obviously not everyone could be an MMA fighter but its probably the closest you can get.

I would say yes an average guy could. Now if we are talking bottom of the barrel for athleticism and coordination probably not but average definately.

[DarkByDesign]

MMA is a completely different sport though, you can succeed through many different ways. Each different MA lends itself to a different skillset. Also each bodytype can utilise different strategies and technique. Not to mention there are weight classes. Obviously not everyone could be an MMA fighter but its probably the closest you can get.

I would say yes an average guy could. Now if we are talking bottom of the barrel for athleticism and coordination probably not but average definately.

yeh i agree to a certain extend, but u gotta take into account as the sport grows everyone will all have very high levels of skill, and in very close competitions, genetics will play a role.

[Clark_Kent]

right now = yes

in 30 years when everyone starts doing MMA then only the best athletes will rise to the top and you ownt have anymore tim sylvias, chris lebens, or ken flos

This.

[DarkByDesign]

right now = yes



in 30 years when everyone starts doing MMA then only the best athletes will rise to the top and you ownt have anymore tim sylvias, chris lebens, or ken flos

come on lol, i bet kenflo is more athletic than most guys here.

[Clark_Kent]

come on lol, i bet kenflo is more athletic that most guys here.

Are most people here competing in top level MMA?

[DarkByDesign]

Are most people here competing in top level MMA?

no, hence why kenflo (a top level competitor) is more athletic than guys here.

[injured44]

come on lol, i bet kenflo is more athletic than most guys here.

Are most people here competing in top level MMA?

no, hence why kenflo (a top level competitor) is more athletic than guys here.

this is like circular logic LOL

[Clark_Kent]

no, hence why kenflo (a top level competitor) is more athletic than guys here.

But why male models?

[Black_Spit]

right now = yes



in 30 years when everyone starts doing MMA then only the best athletes will rise to the top and you ownt have anymore tim sylvias, chris lebens, or ken flos

LOL good call on Kenflo. (no Kenflo hate, I like the guy... it's just correct)

[DarkByDesign]

LOL good call on Kenflo. (no Kenflo hate, I like the guy... it's just correct)

come on guys srsly, i know he looks weak like a stick etc... but you cant deny the fact he is an athletic guy. i know its easy for everyone to sit at home and say 'im a better athlete than kenflo', but not many of you would actually be able to back it up (no frank mir).

[Clark_Kent]

Not one person in this thread has stated that they are a better athlete than Kenflo.


But if you wait long enough, Douchenfranchised might show up and make such a claim.

[DarkByDesign]

Not one person in this thread has stated that they are a better athlete than Kenflo.


But if you wait long enough, Douchenfranchised might show up and make such a claim.

lol k. but the point is ppl always make fun of kenflo cus of the way he looks lol. well i suppose this IS a bodybuilding site and all.

[Black_Spit]

come on guys srsly, i know he looks weak like a stick etc... but you cant deny the fact he is an athletic guy. i know its easy for everyone to sit at home and say 'im a better athlete than kenflo', but not many of you would actually be able to back it up (no frank mir).

You realize that there's a difference between 'athletic' and 'good fighter,' right? If you do... then I don't understand wtf you're saying.

No one is saying he's no good as a fighter... he's a top contender.

Great athlete is not necessarily mutually exclusive with great fighter.

[DarkByDesign]

You realize that there's a difference between 'athletic' and 'good fighter,' right? If you do... then I don't understand wtf you're saying.

No one is saying he's no good as a fighter... he's a top contender.

Great athlete is not necessarily mutually exclusive with great fighter.

im saying kenflo is an athletic guy. whats there not to get? i know he is a good fighter, and in my opinion he is also an athletic guy. but just because he is a good fighter does not mean he is not a good athlete.

[daniella88]

yes

[Black_Spit]

im saying kenflo is an athletic guy. whats there not to get? i know he is a good fighter, and in my opinion he is also an athletic guy. but just because he is a good fighter does not mean he is not a good athlete.

I see that you're from South Africa, so English may not be you're first language.

Anyway... the best athletes in the world end up playing soccer and basketball, or training for the olympics, but they're not in MMA, with several obvious exceptions. Sorry, sad but true. Kenflo is certainly an athletic guy, LMAO... anybody who played high school football (50 million Americans) can lay claim to that. But, is he one one of the best as far as athletics go? Nah.

[LatsMakeTheMan]

come on guys srsly, i know he looks weak like a stick etc... but you cant deny the fact he is an athletic guy. i know its easy for everyone to sit at home and say 'im a better athlete than kenflo', but not many of you would actually be able to back it up (no frank mir).

True, but typically speaking, great athletes LOOK like great athletes. Nobody in the NFL is built like Kenflo (except kickers, punters and some quarterbacks)

[DarkByDesign]

I see that you're from South Africa, so English may not be you're first language.

Anyway... the best athletes in the world end up playing soccer and basketball, or training for the olympics, but they're not in MMA, with several obvious exceptions. Sorry, sad but true. Kenflo is certainly an athletic guy, LMAO... anybody who played high school football (50 million Americans) can lay claim to that. But, is he one one of the best as far as athletics go? Nah.

ok so im taking it you have played high school football and consider yourself to be better athletically than kenflo? like i said before brah, thats easy to say when you are sitting in front of a computer, but do you actually compete in a PROFESSIONAL sport like kenflo? if not, pls dont place yourself in the same category as kenflo.

tip: being athletic isnt bout how much u benchpress brah.

Edit: also i do happen to speak more than just english, like most educated people these days do.

[Clark_Kent]

ok so im taking it you have played high school football and consider yourself to be better athletically than kenflo? like i said before brah, thats easy to say when you are sitting in front of a computer, but do you actually compete in a PROFESSIONAL sport like kenflo? if not, pls dont place yourself in the same category as kenflo.

tip: being athletic isnt bout how much u benchpress brah.

Why are you comparing a professional athlete to a poster on here?

How about you compare Kenflo, a professional athlete, to another professional athlete, Football, Basketball, Soccer player, and you should see he is not the most athletic of the bunch.

[DarkByDesign]

Why are you comparing a professional athlete to a poster on here?

How about you compare Kenflo, a professional athlete, to another professional athlete, Football, Basketball, Soccer player, and you should see he is not the most athletic of the bunch.

because this poster claims Kenflo is just like the 50 million americans.

[wannabepl47]

because this poster claims Kenflo is just like the 50 million americans.

No he didnt say "just like". He said that they were probably as athletic as him.
Add hes probably right. Kenflo has learned skills and trained conditioning not a high level of natural athleticism.

[Clark_Kent]

because this poster claims Kenflo is just like the 50 million americans.

He actually said 50 million Americans can claim to be athletic because they have played organized sports before.

He did not say they were more athletic than Kenflo.

Reading comprehension ftl.

[DarkByDesign]

He actually said 50 million Americans can claim to be athletic because they have played organized sports before.

He did not say they were more athletic than Kenflo.

Reading comprehension ftl.

its pretty obvious thats what he is implying. and you know it too.

[Clark_Kent]

its pretty obvious thats what he is implying. and you know it too.

Negative ghost rider.

[Black_Spit]

its pretty obvious thats what he is implying. and you know it too.

You have the argument skills of a 13 year old. You said Kenflo was "an athletic guy," and I was showing you just how generic of a term that is... and how many people that term could be applied to goofball.

[Hishiad]

And you're implying that most educated people should speak more than one language...wtf kind of logic is that?

[JAGERBOY]

You guys do realize there are intangibles in fighting that can't be learned, and being naturally athletic won't trump them, right?

[Clark_Kent]

And you're implying that most educated people should speak more than one language...wtf kind of logic is that?