Kobe > or = Jordan

[user4165146510]

I don't care about rings. Kobe has just as much talent as MJ. No question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAslW...eature=related

oh he can't knock down the jumper?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iX0c...eature=related

[soleus]

Jordan still owns Kobe...always will.

[paul2121]

Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe

[johnny87]

when he wins a ring or two w/o shaq then he is def. up there w/ him.

[Pretty Boy Floyd]

when he wins a ring or two w/o shaq then he is def. up there w/ him.

agreed

[user9034903490342]

this thread > or = the stupidest thread ever

[Hugh Jazz]

Jordan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe

Fixed

[passerby]

I like Kobe, but Michael Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time.

i.e., MJ > Kobe

[Deadly Dingo]

Kobe is scary good, but MJ was on another level.

Kobe still has a few years in him but, and its finally looking like Kobe reached the level of maturity that Jordan got when he started trusting teammates, its just unlucky bynum got hurt.

But how he plays the next 3-4 years i think will cement his legacy as either dependant on shaq... or one of the greatest

[PieceAMind]

Jordan is by far better...its really not even close...

Hes a better scorer...not peremiter shooter but overall much better (Higher ppg and much higher FG%

Hes a better defender....Only other guard to win Defensive player of the year since him was gary payton

Woulda won 8 rings if he hadnt retired..possibly more if he hadnt retired a second time

kobe has something like 80 40pt games....jordan has like 173

Only player with more 3's in the playoffs then Jordan is Robert horry

[bignpisst]

this should even be a thread

[niospecv]

Is this for real? You are a Kobe homer.

[natespeer]

agreed

x3, kobe doesn't know how to win like mj

[mrawdtsi]

I hope this is not a serious thread.

MJ > Kobe no question.


MJ Career Achievements

Career achievements
Main article: List of career achievements by Michael Jordan

Plaque chronicling the career achievements of Jordan at the United CenterJordan won numerous awards and set many records during his career. The following are some of his achievements:[1][118][119]

Select Awards

14 time All-Star
Olympic Gold Medalist?1984, 1992
Five time MVP?1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998
7 time The Sporting News MVP?1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1997, 1998
Rookie of the Year?1985
Defensive Player of the Year?1988
11 times All-NBA?10 times first team, 1 time second team
9 time All-Defensive First Team
Sports Illustrated "Sportsman of the Year"?1991
Named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996
Select Records

Most scoring titles?10
Most NBA Finals MVP awards?6
Highest career scoring average?30.12
Highest career scoring average playoffs?33.45
Most consecutive games scoring in double figures?866
Highest single series scoring average NBA Finals?41.0 (1993)

[Cramerica]

Also, King James outscored Kobe this last meeting.

I believe James had 41 points, while Bryant had 33.

[GatorsIn09]

Also, King James outscored Kobe this last meeting.

I believe James had 41 points, while Bryant had 33.

its 1 game.


im goin with kobe, but thats the biggest homer pick ever as hes my fav athlete by far. he needs a few more championships to rival mj

[Cramerica]

its 1 game.

Should I name more?

MJ > Kobe or King James or anyone else

[BMatt]

This thread is a joke.. the OP is obviously a homer.

What has Kobe done in LA since Shaq left besides losing in the first round? At least Shaq won another championship after he left LA.

What has Kobe been doing since Bynum went down? Oh yea losing. Not sure if you saw LBJ drop that jumper over Kobe last night to take the lead and win the game.. good stuff

I mean cmon.. Kobe hasnt even won a damn MVP award and your trying to compare him to Jordan. cmon.

The only thing Kobe is.. is a rapist.

[AJV31]

kobe doesnt have scottie pippen so no...
wheres the love for larry legend?

[Cramerica]

In case you didn't notice, Kobe guarded Lebron 1v1 at the end and didn't rely on double teams. Kobe couldn't even get a shot off at the end because they immediately double teamed him (I guess lebron wasn't confident enough to guard him alone) and passed it to luke walton who ****ing passes the ball back to kobe as time ran out.

Lebron was smarter to double Kobe even though Jackson didn't have doubles on Lebron.

They kept Kobe pressured and forced LA to pass around the ball. Better strategy, which is why they pulled it out.

[AJV31]

Lets set one thing straight, the reason why shaq got his last ring is because of DWAYNE WADE, not shaq. Game 3 against the mavs, the heat were down 2-0, and they were losing by about 12 with 4 minutes left and Wade brought them back into the game.

In case you didn't notice, Kobe guarded Lebron 1v1 at the end and didn't rely on double teams. Kobe couldn't even get a shot off at the end because they immediately double teamed him (I guess lebron wasn't confident enough to guard him alone) and passed it to luke walton who ****ing passes the ball back to kobe as time ran out.

My final point: NO ONE WILL EVER BE BETTER THAN MICHAEL JORDAN. There is no argument. Kobe never will, and Lebron never will. It doesn't matter how much better Kobe and Lebron can get, they will never match what Jordan did. No one will. Although, in styles of play, Kobe comes alot closer than Lebron.

x2... i also remember the finals when the lakers went against the pacers(my fav team),and shaq fouled out,and the pacers were leadingand kobe went crazy on us,and the pacers lost

[AJV31]

What's your point lol? I'm a kobe fan, and always have since his rookie year.

since he was a rookie and hardly played?
nah just that kobe won some games also for the lakers when they won the championship,it wasn't just shaq,,

[sammy21]

Is this a joke??

MJ owns Kobe in every single category.

[kooldude]

I don't care about rings. Kobe has just as much talent as MJ. No question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAslW...eature=related

oh he can't knock down the jumper?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iX0c...eature=related

nope, Jordan was more physically gifted. He had bigger hands, more speed, more strength, and explosiveness.

If you want a guy that's more talented than Jordan, look at Vince Carter. Too bad Vince doesn't care.

[kooldude]

I'd say physically, carter was stronger and bigger than Jordan, but not quicker. He had a higher jump, but Jordan definitely had more hang time.

yea, you're right about Jordan's quickness. I meant overall, Vince was superior.

I don't know about the hang time part. Vince's jumps were with such force that he was bounded to come down faster. I bet if he wanted to hang in the air, rather than slam down powerful dunks, he could hang longer than MJ. Not to mention that Vince's body coordination is greater than MJ too.

[heidt410]

The reason why Kobe is not as good as Jordan, is his basketball mind. Jordan would create so many shots for his team. Kobe does not do this, at least yet (though he is starting to). I also think Jordan was a better defender.

Hence, the rings.

I dont really like Kobe as a person, but his talent level is close to MJ.

[Negatron617]

jordan was the clutchest player of all time....not the best.....just most clutch....if that makes him the best then so be it

[kooldude]

jordan was the clutchest player of all time....not the best.....just most clutch....if that makes him the best then so be it

who's the best then?

[Negatron617]

idunno....but why is jordan the best?
he didnt have the most championships
he didnt score the most, or have the most triple doubles, or assists or even double doubles
if he is the greatest its cuz he was the clutchest in the biggest moments

[KingCanuck]

idunno....but why is jordan the best?
he didnt have the most championships
he didnt score the most, or have the most triple doubles, or assists or even double doubles
if he is the greatest its cuz he was the clutchest in the biggest moments

He is the best because he was a notch above everyone. HE could take over the game any second.

He could score at will.
He was clutch as hell.
Great defender.