Best shoulder and Tricep mass exercises.

[cftstorres]

What are some of the most effective mass building shoulder exercises you can recommend. And what are the most effective triceps exercises for mass and definition.

I have experimented w/ many...but I'm still not getting what I'm after.

I you don't mind include if you for example superset the routine, or break it up into sets, and the # of sets. I have noticed supersets work well for me, but with some muscle groups breaking up one exercise into sets is effective for me.

Thanks in advance for any advice. ; )

[Mindi912]

What are some of the most effective mass building shoulder exercises you can recommend. And what are the most effective triceps exercises for mass and definition.

I have experimented w/ many...but I'm still not getting what I'm after.

I you don't mind include if you for example superset the routine, or break it up into sets, and the # of sets. I have noticed supersets work well for me, but with some muscle groups breaking up one exercise into sets is effective for me.

Thanks in advance for any advice. ; )

which exercises have you experimented with?

this is really good article for your shoulders

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459897

triceps

dips
lying db extensions
tricep pushdowns
kickbacks

it depends on what you feel the problem with your triceps are - are they short, soft or flat on the outside?

[SunnyD902]

For adding mass to shoulders I have found heavy overhead dumbbell presses to be the best and for triceps, dips (weighted ones if you're strong enough) and pushdowns.

[norinicole]

Mindi that was an awesome article. I've got some new exercises to try now

[Simpy]

I have struggled with shoulders. Two exercises have really made a difference for me: push presses and handstand pushups.

[cftstorres]

which exercises have you experimented with?

this is really good article for your shoulders

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459897

triceps

dips
lying db extensions
tricep pushdowns
kickbacks

it depends on what you feel the problem with your triceps are - are they short, soft or flat on the outside?

Thanx I tried a few on this link last night. I have been doing most of them as it already. The ones when the guy used the bench were very good. I'll keep incorporating those and see what happens.

[cftstorres]

I have struggled with shoulders. Two exercises have really made a difference for me: push presses and handstand pushups.

I'll try both. I do pike press as a warm up, I can't quite do handstand pushups, but eventually I'll get there.

Thanx