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    2-18-06, Chest/Shoulders/Triceps Workout B

    DB Flat Press
    95x3
    2x85x6
    DB High Incline Press
    3x65x8
    Cable Crossovers
    6x30x12
    DB Shoulder Press
    45x12
    45x9
    45x8
    DB Side Lateral Raise
    20x8
    20x5
    Seated DB Side Lateral Raise
    15x8
    12x8
    12x8
    Parallel Grip Tricep Extension
    75x10
    75x5
    75x5 <--- lol triceps were burnt
    Tricep Pressdown
    STACKx10
    140x12
    145x8

    Notes:

    Great workout today!

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    Originally Posted by mivi320
    Thanks man!

    It's very similar to Beast's training routine.

    BTW, do you have a log I can follow?

    Thanks for following!
    no current log.
    i should have something going in the next 3 or 4 weeks.
    keep up the good work.
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    Originally Posted by beer20
    no current log.
    i should have something going in the next 3 or 4 weeks.
    keep up the good work.
    Cool, look forward to reading it!

    2-20-06, Back/Traps/Biceps Workout B

    Hammer Chins
    BWx12
    BWx6
    BWx6
    V-bar Lat Pulldowns
    140x7
    125x8
    110x10
    Reverse Grip Barbell Row
    3x120x10
    T-Bar Row
    3x70x10
    BB Shrug
    6x185x12 killed the traps
    Rear Delt Raise
    3x15x10
    High Pulley Reverse Fly
    3x40x8
    Seated Alternating DB Curl
    45x3
    2x25x10
    E-z bar Curl
    100x3
    95x4
    75x6
    High Pulley Curl
    20x12
    2x30x8

    Notes:

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    nice detailed log.
    hey what's your weight currently at?
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    Originally Posted by mivi320

    Spring Bulking Routine

    Wednesday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps.
    • Bench Press 3 X 3-5
    • DB Incline Press 3 X 6-10
    • Cable Flyes 6 X 10-12
    • Seated Barbell Military Press 3 X 3-5
    • DB Side lateral 3 X 6-12
    • CGBP 3 X 6-10
    • V-bar Pressdown 3 X 6-12
    I don't understand the reasoning behind doing 6 sets of cable flyes or crossovers on a "bulking" routine? These are "finishing" or "isolation" movements. Why not use the energy on compound movements?


    Friday - Legs.
    • ATG Squats 1 X 20
    • Leg Press 1 X 20
    • Leg Extensions 3 X 12-15
    • Leg Curl 3 X 12-15
    • DEEP SLDL 3 X 12
    • Leg Press Raise 3 X 12-15
    • Machine Calf Raise 3 X 12-15
    • Lying Leg Raise 3 X 10
    • Crunches 3 X 10
    • Hyperxextensions 3 X 10
    Again, why only 1 set of squats and 1 of leg presses compared to THREE???!!! of leg extensions???
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    Originally Posted by peregrine
    nice detailed log.
    hey what's your weight currently at?
    Thanks.

    Holding steady at 165 or so, which is ~ 4 pounds heavier than I was at the start of the log.

    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    I don't understand the reasoning behind doing 6 sets of cable flyes or crossovers on a "bulking" routine? These are "finishing" or "isolation" movements. Why not use the energy on compound movements?
    Don't bash it till you try it.

    My chest growth has been unreal since I incorporated cable flyes into my routines back in December. I know what works for me and what doesn't.

    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    Again, why only 1 set of squats and 1 of leg presses compared to THREE???!!! of leg extensions???
    Legs 2x a week.

    20 rep squats are extremely intense, are 20 rep leg presses. I can barely walk after completing these 2 movements. Again, I'm trying out some new principles in my training to see how I respond. Experimentation is ultimately how you find out what works for you.
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    Originally Posted by mivi320


    Don't bash it till you try it.

    My chest growth has been unreal since I incorporated cable flyes into my routines back in December. I know what works for me and what doesn't.



    Legs 2x a week.

    20 rep squats are extremely intense, are 20 rep leg presses. I can barely walk after completing these 2 movements. Again, I'm trying out some new principles in my training to see how I respond. Experimentation is ultimately how you find out what works for you.

    Hey..you either take things too personally, or you are an arrogant kid. I was simply asking the question. I don't know you or your history. But your Journal says you are trying to build mass, yet you are going against one of basic principles. Compound exercises build size, not isolation and finishing movements. Fine, it works for you, but it doesn't mean it works for everybody and it is certainly not recommended as a way of doing things for most beginners and intermediates.

    I know all about 20 rep squats. I do them occasionally and mine are so intense that my body is ready to quit, but I still gut out 10 more reps. And I do three sets, pyramidding the weight up each set.

    But anyway what does 20 rep squats have to do with the question? Why only one set of squats and three of extensions?

    I also know all about experimentation. I've been training longer than you have been on this earth and have tried hundreds of different programs.

    Anyway, if you don't want to listen to opposing views or take constructive criticism, then be it. I'll move on.
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    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    Hey..you either take things too personally, or you are an arrogant kid. I was simply asking the question.criticism
    Where in his post was he arrogant or defensive? He just gave you reasons on why he choose this setup
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    Where in his post was he arrogant or defensive? He just gave you reasons on why he choose this setup
    im not really seeing it either....
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    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    Hey..you either take things too personally, or you are an arrogant kid.
    I don't see how my post can come off as "arrogant." You simply asked me a question regarding my routine, I simply gave you an answer. Apparently, I'm not the only one who fails to see this display of arrogance, as waitlifter82 and beer20 also fail to see it.

    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    I was simply asking the question.
    And I simply gave you an answer.

    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    I don't know you or your history. But your Journal says you are trying to build mass, yet you are going against one of basic principles. Compound exercises build size, not isolation and finishing movements. Fine, it works for you, but it doesn't mean it works for everybody and it is certainly not recommended as a way of doing things for most beginners and intermediates.
    Never said it works for everybody.

    However, I do know that it works for me. Been training this way since October, and have gained ~18 pounds since.

    I do see your argument of prioritizing compound movements, and yes, that has worked well for me in the past. But I like to experiment with new principles and methods to see how my muscles respond. The response has been incredible so far.


    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    I know all about 20 rep squats. I do them occasionally and mine are so intense that my body is ready to quit, but I still gut out 10 more reps. And I do three sets, pyramidding the weight up each set.

    But anyway what does 20 rep squats have to do with the question? Why only one set of squats and three of extensions?
    1 set of squats because they are 20 rep squats. If you ever happen to do "real" 20 rep squats, you won't be able to complete anymore subsequent squatting sets. That's what the 20 rep squat training program entails, and that's what I abide by. Does that answer your question?

    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    I also know all about experimentation. I've been training longer than you have been on this earth and have tried hundreds of different programs.
    And I commend you. I bet you've made some incredible progress.

    Experimentation is the key to finding what works for you and what doesn't, eh?

    I think Bruce Lee said it best, "Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, add what is uniquely your own."

    Originally Posted by egoatdoor
    Anyway, if you don't want to listen to opposing views or take constructive criticism, then be it. I'll move on.
    No harsh feelings.

    I just don't see how my post came off as arrogant. I'm just not seeing it... I simply answered your questions.
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    OK. No harsh feelings. You seem to have a good handle on what you are doing and why. I don't necessarily agree with some (some, not alot) of what you are doing, but I do say to people that everyone should be their own best personal trainer.

    Good luck, keep growing and I'll keep watching.
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    2-21-06, Legs/Core Workout B

    ATG Squats
    3x225x6
    Machine Calf Raise
    3x70x10
    DEEP SLDL
    195x8
    195x8
    195x6
    Calf Press
    70x25
    70x20
    70x20
    Leg Extensions
    3x170x8
    Lying Leg Curls
    110x8
    110x8
    90x10
    Hyperextensions
    3x+25x8

    +ab and core work

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    doesnt this routine.........

    Originally Posted by mivi320

    Spring Bulking Routine

    Wednesday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps.
    • Bench Press 3 X 3-5
    • DB Incline Press 3 X 6-10
    • Cable Flyes 6 X 10-12
    • Seated Barbell Military Press 3 X 3-5
    • DB Side lateral 3 X 6-12
    • CGBP 3 X 6-10
    • V-bar Pressdown 3 X 6-12


    Thursday - Back/Traps/Biceps.
    • Weighted Chin up 3 X 3-5
    • Lat Pulldown 3 X 6-12
    • Seated Cable Row 3 X 6-10
    • T-Bar Row 3 X 10-12
    • Barbell Shrug 3 X 6-10
    • CG Ez bar Shrug 3 X 6-10
    • Rear Delt Raise 6 X 10
    • BB Curl 3 X 3-5
    • 1-Arm DB Preacher Curl 3 X 10
    • Reverse grip preacher curl 3 X 10

    Friday - Legs.
    • ATG Squats 1 X 20
    • Leg Press 1 X 20
    • Leg Extensions 3 X 12-15
    • Leg Curl 3 X 12-15
    • DEEP SLDL 3 X 12
    • Leg Press Raise 3 X 12-15
    • Machine Calf Raise 3 X 12-15
    • Lying Leg Raise 3 X 10
    • Crunches 3 X 10
    • Hyperxextensions 3 X 10



    Saturday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps.
    • DB Flat Bench 3 X 4-8
    • Incline DB Bench 3 X 6-10
    • Cable Crossovers 6 X 10-12
    • DB Shoulder Press 3 X 6-12
    • DB Lateral 2 X 6-10
    • Seated DB lateral 3x10-12
    • Lying French Press 3X 8-12
    • Pressdown 3 X 6-10

    Monday - Back/Traps/Biceps.
    • Hammer Chins 3x*
    • V-Bar Lat Pulldown 3 X 6-10
    • Reverse Grip BB Row 3 X 6-10
    • T-Bar Row 3 X 10-12
    • BB Shrug 6 X 6-10
    • DB Rear Delt Raise 3 X 10
    • Cable Reverse Fly 3 X 8-12
    • Seated DB Alt. Curl 3 X 8-12
    • EZ Bar Curl 3 X 5-6
    • High Pulley Curl 3 X 10


    Tuesday- Legs.
    • Squats 3 X 6-8
    • Machine Calf Raise 3 X 6-8
    • SLDL 3 X 6-8
    • Calf Press 3 X 20-40
    • Leg Extension 3 X 6-10
    • Leg Curl 3 X 6-10
    • Weighted Hyperextensions 3 X 12-15
    • Decline Crunch 3 X 10
    • Machine Crunch 3 X 10

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    • 10-20 mins cardio after workouts 2 times a week

    Will continue mega dosing with Xtend and finish up my GB/WB stack so I can recover from the ****load of volume.
    look utterly similar to the workout Beast posted as his contest prep workout...

    Originally Posted by http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beast22.htm

    Monday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps.

    Bench 3 X 3-5
    Incline Bench 3 X 6-10
    Flyes 6 X 10-12
    Military Press 3 X 3-5
    Side Lateral 3 X 6-12
    CG Bench 3 X 3-5
    Rope Pressdown 3 X 6-12

    Tuesday - Back/Traps/Biceps.

    Pullup 3 X 3-5
    Lat Pulldown 3 X 6-10
    Seated Row 3 X 6-10
    T-Bar Row 3 X 10-12
    Machine Shrug 3 X 6-10
    Rear Machine Shrug 3 X 6-10
    Rear Delt 6 X 10
    BB Curl 3 X 3-5
    1-Arm Cable Curl 3 X 10
    1-Arm Cable Hammer 3 X 10

    Wednesday - Legs.

    Squats 1 X 20
    Hack Squat 1 X 20
    Leg Press 3 X 12-15
    Ham Curl 3 X 12-15
    DB Lunges 3 X 12
    Leg Press Raise 3 X 12-15
    Donkey Raise 3 X 12-15
    Lying Leg Raise 3 X 10
    Side Bend 3 X 10
    Back Extension 3 X 10

    Thursday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps.

    Bench 3 X 3-5
    Incline Bench 3 X 6-10
    Cable Crossovers 6 X 10-12
    Military Press 3 X 3-5
    DB Lateral 2 X 6-10
    1-Arm Cable Lateral 2 X 10-12
    CG Bench 3 X 3-5
    Pressdown 2 X 6-10
    1-Arm Pressdown 2 X 10-12

    Friday - Back/Traps/Biceps.

    Pullup 3 X *
    V-Bar Lat Pulldown 3 X 6-10
    V-Bar Seated Row 3 X 6-10
    T-Bar Row 3 X 10-12
    BB Shrug 6 X 6-10
    Rear Delt 6 X 10
    DB Curl 3 X 5-6
    EZ Bar Curl 3 X 6-10
    High Pulley Curl 3 X 10

    Saturday - Legs.

    Squats 3 X 3-5
    Seated Calf Raise 3 X 3-5
    SLD 3 X 3-5
    Smith Calf Raise 3 X 20-40
    1-Leg Extension 3 X 6-10
    1-Leg Curl 3 X 6-10
    Add/Abductor 3 X 12-15
    Decline Crunch 3 X 10
    Machine Crunch 3 X 10
    egoatdoor, i think this explains why hes doing what hes doing....he wants to be like Beast(note joking manner). its the exact same thing reps and all with some workouts substituted here and there. it is a challenging workout though, im actually doing it now and having lots of fun with it. i needed a change, so i tried it out and im gonna use it for about 6-8 weeks.
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    Originally Posted by TravisLehr
    doesnt this routine.........



    look utterly similar to the workout Beast posted as his contest prep workout...



    egoatdoor, i think this explains why hes doing what hes doing....he wants to be like Beast. its the exact same thing reps and all with some workouts substituted here and there. it is a challenging workout though, ive done it just for kicks.
    he already said it was similar to beast's routine...

    Originally Posted by mivi320
    Anyway, I'll be switching routines as well. Starting this routine tomorrow (very similar to Beast's current routine) :
    nothing wrong with wanting to have beast's build though....
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    Originally Posted by hepennypacker52
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    2-22-06, Chest/Shoulders/Triceps Workout A

    Barbell Flat Bench Press
    205x3
    200x3
    200x3
    DB Incline Press
    3x70x8
    Flat Bench Cable Flyes
    30x12
    30x12
    30x10
    40x6
    40x6
    20x12
    Military Press
    2x135x5
    135x4
    DB Side Lateral Raise
    20x8
    15x10
    15x8
    CGBP
    135x8
    135x7
    135x6
    Tricep Pressdowns [i]on cable machine w/much more resistance[/b]
    60x15
    60x15
    70x8

    + 15 minutes low intensity cardio

    Notes:

    Good workout today.

    Made a mistake on bench press though. I wanted to go for 210x3 for my first set, but being the dumbass that I am, I forgot to put the 2.5s on each side - making the total weight 205. Will definately get 210x3 for next week.

    But yeah, great workout!
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    Welcome to Mike's journal.

    Intro

    I have been bulking for the last 17 weeks or so and plan on bulking for another 10-20 weeks. I gained pratically no fat mass in those 17 weeks. I went from 144lbs. to 161lbs. - mostly all lean body mass (LBM). I'm 16 years old (soon to be 17) and am 5'7.

    Why I am keeping this log

    I am keeping this log to record my workouts, feelings, progress, and most importantly, how I respond to my arsenal of supplements including:
    • Mega Dosing Scivation Xtend (10 scoops daily)
    • Controlled Labs White Blood/Green Bulge Combo (30 day cycle)
    • Scivation Sesamin (1 cap daily)
    • Optimum Fish Oil (5g daily)
    • Dymatize Elite Whey Protein (1 scoop daily)
    • Primaforce Creaform (10g daily)
    • MAN Vaporize (1 cap daily once Sesamin runs out)

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    Damn, nice protocol. Xtend is a great product. I've used it and love it. Looks real good here.
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    When are you taking teh 10 scoops of Xtend? Could you share?
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    Nice Routine what weights are u workin with?
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    Originally Posted by hossjob
    When are you taking teh 10 scoops of Xtend? Could you share?
    Breakfast: 2 scoops
    Before/During/After Workout: 8 scoops

    Originally Posted by boxerdude
    Nice Routine what weights are you workin with
    I don't understand your question...I've been posting my workouts, so you should be able to see what weights I'm working with

    2-23-06, Back/Traps/Biceps/Forearms Workout A

    Weighted Chins
    +40x4 Nice!
    2x+25x5
    Lat Pulldowns
    150x8 Yes!
    150x7
    105x12
    Cable Rows
    135x7 woot
    2x105x10
    CG T-bar Rows
    2x70x10
    70x9
    E-z bar Shrugs
    3x205x8
    Powercleans
    3x135x8
    155x0
    Rear Delt Fly
    5x12x15
    12x10
    BB Curls
    105x4
    105x3
    105x3
    DB Preacher Curls
    3x20x12
    Reverse Preachers
    45x12
    45x10
    45x8
    Face Pulls
    50x12
    50x10
    20x20

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    Damn straight...time to study for Finals...
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    Nice workout bro! And good luck on those finals. Hey did you ever think of taking 1 scoop of Xtend like 2 other times during teh day between meals? Might help increase your perpetual pump and keep the muscles adn cells hydrated, fueled, and anti-catabolic.
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    Originally Posted by hossjob
    Nice workout bro! And good luck on those finals. Hey did you ever think of taking 1 scoop of Xtend like 2 other times during teh day between meals? Might help increase your perpetual pump and keep the muscles adn cells hydrated, fueled, and anti-catabolic.
    Thanks HJ.

    Hmm, good idea. Will try that out tomorrow..
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    2-24-06, Legs/Core, Workout B

    ATG 20 Rep Squats
    185x20
    20 Rep Leg Cybex Leg Press
    315x25
    Leg Extensions
    140x20 Woah, +8 rep PR
    140x10
    140x8
    Lying Leg Curls
    2x75x20
    110x6
    DEEP SLDL
    2x145x12
    145x10
    Calf Press
    3x130x15
    Machine Calf Press
    2x50x8
    90x4
    Hyperextensions
    3xBWx12

    + core work and 15 mins low intensity cardio

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    I'm blue da ba dee da ba die...
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    2-25-06, Chest/Shoulders/Triceps Workout B

    DB Flat Press*see notes
    95x4
    2x85x6
    High DB Incline Press
    75x5
    2x65x8
    Cable Crossovers
    3x40x10
    2x60x6
    20x20 chest was fried
    DB Shoulder Press
    40x12
    40x10
    40x8
    DB Side Lateral
    12x20
    12x10
    Seated DB Side lateral raise
    3x12x8
    Tricep Extension
    85x7
    85x6
    75x8
    Dips *see notes*
    3xBWx8

    Notes:

    Good workout today..Last day of GB/WB stack You all can check out my review after this post!

    Wanted to go for the 100s on flat but some big steroid head was reppin' them for 3 sets of 12!

    No pressdowns today because the same guy was whoring the cable station, so I subbed pressdowns with dips..No biggie.

    But yeah, excellent workout!
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    Green Bulge and White Blood Review!

    This was my second Green Bulge/White Blood cycle. I enjoyed this cycle very much, as my strength and LBM shot up! I am currently weighing in at 164 pounds, which is ~ 4 pounds gained in 30 days on the stack. Body fat has remained the same as well - still holding steady at 12.6%. I plan on running another cycle come this Spring! I absolutely love Controlled Labs' products and plan on trying out White Blood pre-workout and at night in the near future! On a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, I give this stack a respectable 9/10.
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    Damn man your getting strong, how do you like throwing on additional weight for those chins ? best feeling in the world isnt it
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    Originally Posted by Younglifter16
    Damn man your getting strong, how do you like throwing on additional weight for those chins ? best feeling in the world isnt it
    Thanks YL.

    I love weighted chins. They're my favorite exercise
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    UPDATE

    Will be having a HUGE planned cheat meal on Tuesday. I'm going all out. Luckily, I still have plenty of Sesamin/Vaporize left, so I plan on mega dosing Sesamin/Vaporize that day to see just how good these products are.

    I'll be sure to post how everything goes down!

    Have a good Sunday everyone
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    What weight did you use for the 20 rep squats? I tried them for the first time the other day. I did about 3 sets of warmup squats, then one really heavy set, then a 20 rep set (well i did 21, but it was too light because it was my first time trying it and I wasn't sure how much to use).
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    What weight did you use for the 20 rep squats? I tried them for the first time the other day. I did about 3 sets of warmup squats, then one really heavy set, then a 20 rep set (well i did 21, but it was too light because it was my first time trying it and I wasn't sure how much to use).
    ...If you look at my workouts, you'll see that I last used 185 pounds for 20 rep squats...

    If you did 21 reps, then that's too light! You gotta be struggling on the 12th-15th rep for them to be real 20 reppers.
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    2-27-06, Back/Traps/Biceps/Forearm Workout A

    Hammer Chins
    BWx12
    BWx8
    BWx6
    V-bar Pulldown
    155x6
    125x8
    110x10
    RG BB Row
    3x125x8
    WG T-bar Row
    90x8
    115x3
    90x6
    CG Ez bar Shrug
    4x205x12
    2x205x8
    DB Rear Delt Raise
    3x15x12
    Seated Cable Face Pulls
    75x8
    2x45x10
    E-z bar Curl
    105x3
    95x8
    95x6
    Seated Alt DB Curl
    3x30x8
    DB Incline Curl
    2x20x10
    35x6

    + 10 mins low intensity cardio

    Notes:

    Good stuff.

    2-28-06, Legs/Core Workout B

    ATG Squats
    5x230x4
    Machine Calf Raise
    3x80x8
    DEEP SLDL
    2x195x8
    195x6
    Leg Extension
    2x170x10
    190x6
    Lying Leg Curl
    110x10
    110x5
    75x12
    Calf Press
    3x90x20
    Weighted Hyperextensions
    +25x10
    +25x10
    +25x8

    +core work and 18 mins cardio

    Notes:

    Nice!

    Update

    Had a huge cheat day today. Wanted to put Sesamin and Vaporize to the test. Usually after a day of cheating, I'm bloated and hold alot of water. I took a total of 5 Scivation Sesamin and 5 MAN Vaporize, and looked lean as ever! Still looking very lean as of now! Two very good supps, and I'd recommend them to anyone who wants to stay lean and binge every now and then
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