Best Excercise for Shoulder Width

[Xerak]

What is the Best Excercise for Shoulder Width. I want to look wider on the shoulders, i hate seeing some ****er who doesnt lift weights with broad shoulders.

[MassIsAhead]

The best all-around delt builder is probably seated DB presses.

[AangleN]

all around mass builder would be presses, as the person before me said. pure width is either genetic as you stated or side delts. my fav side delt excersise is:

triple sets of side laterals....
choose a weight you could do about 20 reps with, then do 10
immediately grab the dbells 5 lbs heavier, do 10
grab the original weight, do 10

thats one set. by the fourth, you shouldnt get 10 and you should feel like your delts are on fire.

[EvilMonkey]

Anything that hits the side delts:

Lateral Raises (db or cable)
Upright rows (not my favorite but it does hit the side delts)

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/ExList/Sho...#anchor1933886

Also been meaning to try DiamondDelts' lying side lateral presses (did I get that right?) but haven't gotten round to it.

[aqua-beowulf]

Originally Posted by MassisAhead

The best all-around delt builder is probably seated DB presses.

I'll agree on that, but I still incorporate some medial delt training as well... just a few sets of lateral raises at least three times per week is working wonders for my shoulders.

[Sammie Jr]

Originally Posted by Xerak

What is the Best Excercise for Shoulder Width. I want to look wider on the shoulders, i hate seeing some ****er who doesnt lift weights with broad shoulders.

Do side laterals and don't work the traps. No traps will give you a flat plane across the shoulders and make you look wider. It's one of those illusion things but it works.

[Xerak]

Originally Posted by Sammie Jr

Do side laterals and don't work the traps. No traps will give you a flat plane across the shoulders and make you look wider. It's one of those illusion things but it works.

HAHA but i want huge traps! huge traps are intimidating.

[DiamondDelts]

Originally Posted by Xerak

HAHA but i want huge traps! huge traps are intimidating.

Depends on your bonestructure. Not everyone can have big traps and appear wide at the same time.

[3lixer.]

Seated L-Laterals

http://abcbodybuilding.com/exercise3/llaterals.htm

make your delts wide as ****

[DiamondDelts]

Originally Posted by 3lixer.

Seated L-Laterals

http://abcbodybuilding.com/exercise3/llaterals.htm

make your delts wide as ****

I prefer doing mine on an incline. But I do feel l-laterals are superior to regular laterals when it comes to medial delt growth. You can use much more weight without giving up on good form. Great for overloading the medial delts.

Though I use an l-lateral handle when doing mine. Excellent exercise.

[PoW]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

Depends on your bonestructure. Not everyone can have big traps and appear wide at the same time.

Now that you mention it, it seams as my traps have gotten bigger my shoulders look smaller, even though they are gaining size too.

[DiamondDelts]

Originally Posted by PoW

Now that you meantion it, it seams as my traps have gotten bigger my shoulders look smaller, even though they are gaining size too.

It depends but you might have a curved clavicle(sloped shoulders). If so you will most likely have HELL trying to achieve proportionate sized delts with big traps.

[Sir_Malak]

I have been experiencing with delts the last oh three months doing only one exercise with 5 sets at 8-10 reps; db press' . The result was the same as if i was mixing it up with various workouts. I cant really say if its slower or if id get quicker results adding in others personally but probably im my understanding.

[mardydagymjunky]

what about heavy militarys? which part do they develop?

[Sammie Jr]

Originally Posted by PoW

Now that you mention it, it seams as my traps have gotten bigger my shoulders look smaller, even though they are gaining size too.

Overly huge traps can make you look round shouldered unless you have extremely long clavicles which give your skeletal structure a wide look.
Look at Frank Zane he was a small man for the most part but he was smart enough to fore-go trap work to make his shoulders look wider.

[waseem]

Originally Posted by mardydagymjunky

what about heavy militarys? which part do they develop?

Anterior and Medial mostly.

[Slucha]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

I prefer doing mine on an incline. But I do feel l-laterals are superior to regular laterals when it comes to medial delt growth. You can use much more weight without giving up on good form. Great for overloading the medial delts.

Though I use an l-lateral handle when doing mine. Excellent exercise.

I don't understand this. When doing l-laterals you are shortening the lever, so you can lift more weight, but the work that the delts have to do is the same.
big weight+short lever = small weight+long lever, regarding the muscle stimulus. thats what I always thought. IMO l-laterals hit more the "mid rear delt tie in" and that is because the weight is more in front of your body, and to maintain the l-form in your arms the external rotators (rear delts) have come into play much more than in normal laterals.

But I'm more than willing to be convinced otherwise .


best exercise for shoulder width, snatch grip BNP's.

[bc_2005]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

Depends on your bonestructure. Not everyone can have big traps and appear wide at the same time.

Thats my problem exactly! What do u all think???

[DiamondDelts]

Originally Posted by Slucha

I don't understand this. When doing l-laterals you are shortening the lever, so you can lift more weight, but the work that the delts have to do is the same.
big weight+short lever = small weight+long lever, regarding the muscle stimulus. thats what I always thought. IMO l-laterals hit more the "mid rear delt tie in" and that is because the weight is more in front of your body, and to maintain the l-form in your arms the external rotators (rear delts) have come into play much more than in normal laterals.

But I'm more than willing to be convinced otherwise .


best exercise for shoulder width, snatch grip BNP's.

If you do them with your elbow in front of your body you are right. But if you make sure your elbow is directly parallell to your side when doing these, it seems to hit the medial delts almost directly. I used to be a believer of small weight, long lever for medial delt growth but I am not anymore.

I have a unique L-lateral handle.'

http://www.i-a-r-t.com/proshop/Thumb...deltforce.html

Once I was able to pile 40lbs plus on this thing and still maintain STRICT form with it my medial delts really began to take off again. My delts adapted to the smaller weights the long lever method was using. The heavy weights and massive overload along with strict form I could use while using this L-lateral handle just completely blew them away. Truly great tool.

But if you were to ask me what is the best exercise for shoulder width I would have to personally say side presses along with wide grip military pressing. With btn presses a close third.

[DiamondDelts]

Originally Posted by bc_2005

Thats my problem exactly! What do u all think???

You just have a naturally curved clavicle bro. If I were you I would lay off all direct and indirect trap work for a while until you bring your medial delts up to par. Concentrate on military presses and laterals.

[bc_2005]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

You just have a naturally curved clavicle bro. If I were you I would lay off all direct and indirect trap work for a while until you bring your medial delts up to par. Concentrate on military presses and laterals.

What about deads and clean and press? just wait until I catch up my delts? I just started a new full body mass routine where I lift every 3rd day. one day on 2 days off etc....

[Slucha]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

If you do them with your elbow in front of your body you are right. But if you make sure your elbow is directly parallell to your side when doing these, it seems to hit the medial delts almost directly. I used to be a believer of small weight, long lever for medial delt growth but I am not anymore.

I have a unique L-lateral handle.'

http://www.i-a-r-t.com/proshop/Thumb...deltforce.html

Once I was able to pile 40lbs plus on this thing and still maintain STRICT form with it my medial delts really began to take off again. My delts adapted to the smaller weights the long lever method was using. The heavy weights and massive overload along with strict form I could use while using this L-lateral handle just completely blew them away. Truly great tool.

But if you were to ask me what is the best exercise for shoulder width I would have to personally say side presses along with wide grip military pressing. With btn presses a close third.

When you say sidepresses you mean the ones lying down with a tbar?
How do you set this exercise up? Is the unloaded end of the bar above your head,towards your feet, behind your back or in front of you?

[DiamondDelts]

Originally Posted by Slucha

When you say sidepresses you mean the ones lying down with a tbar?
How do you set this exercise up? Is the unloaded end of the bar above your head,towards your feet, behind your back or in front of you?

Well I just stick a bar in the corner of my power rack. But It is pretty much a make**** tbar. I lie down next to the bar and push it horizontally from behind my thighs.

[k_townsfinest]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

Depends on your bonestructure. Not everyone can have big traps and appear wide at the same time.

So true man, I have a rounded clavicle and my traps are pretty big so that makes me look narrower.

[Uriel_da_man]

Sometimes curved clavicles realy suck. I have the biggest delts and (by far) lats in my class (I'm not the only weightlifter there) but I see many skinny bastards wider than me just from the clavicle length. Though I'm still hoping my clavicles will still grow longer (I'm only 16). Hope is the last to die I guess.

'Till then I just have to settle with kickass traps

[The Gootz]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

I prefer doing mine on an incline. But I do feel l-laterals are superior to regular laterals when it comes to medial delt growth. You can use much more weight without giving up on good form. Great for overloading the medial delts.

Though I use an l-lateral handle when doing mine. Excellent exercise.

Why do them on an incline? What benefit is there to doing it on an incline compared to standing? Just curious because my shoulders are naturally pretty narrow even though the rest of my body is relatively bulked up. I have an all around routine and don't neglect any body part it's just that genetically I wasn't blessed with the widest of shoulders. I've tried seated L-Laterals before but I just haven't been able to nail down a solid routine for delt width.

My current routines consist of:

-5 sets of front or behind the neck presses (rotate between dumbell, machine and barbell)
-5 sets of lateral raises (dumbells or cables)
-5 sets of upright rows or Seated L-Laterals or machine lateral raises

Any ideas? Thanks for the help fellas!

[DiamondDelts]

Originally Posted by The Gootz

Why do them on an incline? What benefit is there to doing it on an incline compared to standing? Just curious because my shoulders are naturally pretty narrow even though the rest of my body is relatively bulked up. I have an all around routine and don't neglect any body part it's just that genetically I wasn't blessed with the widest of shoulders. I've tried seated L-Laterals before but I just haven't been able to nail down a solid routine for delt width.

My current routines consist of:

-5 sets of front or behind the neck presses (rotate between dumbell, machine and barbell)
-5 sets of lateral raises (dumbells or cables)
-5 sets of upright rows or Seated L-Laterals or machine lateral raises

Any ideas? Thanks for the help fellas!

Doing your laterals on a incline will give your medial delts continuous tension throughout the entire range of motion. Which is great for growth in my book. Standing laterals offer almost no resistance at the beginning of the exercise. While lying laterals offer little resistance at the top of the movement. Incline is a great hybrid between both without their weakpoints.

[Weightaholic]

What sort of angle on incline do you recommend DD?

[DontRevMe]

Originally Posted by Sammie Jr

Do side laterals and don't work the traps. No traps will give you a flat plane across the shoulders and make you look wider. It's one of those illusion things but it works.

no.

[Sir_Malak]

Originally Posted by DiamondDelts

Depends on your bonestructure. Not everyone can have big traps and appear wide at the same time.

Incredibly true. I personally fall somewhere in the middle..i cant have one going real large without the other falling behind (in looks).

There is a difference in being wide geneticly with just a wide frame and having big bodybuilder delts..hehe I think so anyway in looks. More rounded delts are better than boney delts hehe.