Thyroid bad, what supplements can I use?

amyfit · 10-28-2002, 02:50 AM

Hey, I've just found out that my thyroid is bad. I've put on alot of fat and I want rid of it! Does anyone else have to take thyroid meds? If so, can you tell me your experinces?
Thanks!
Amyfit

dekka213 · 10-28-2002, 02:02 PM

my throid is jacked up as well. Ive been on methimazole for 5years now......my doctor approves and supervises my use of ephedra to facilitate fat loss as well as cyclic ketogenic dieting....talk to your endocrinologist and have them keep tabs on your thyroid panel....boooom.....that easy.......bump up your cardio........beat that iron...and see if you can lower your synthroid mgs/day......ciao...

willowmyer · 10-28-2002, 03:33 PM

If it is the case that you have hypothyroidism (low thyroid function), your doctor would do a test for TSH and T2, T3, etc. If you did have hypothyroidism you would/should be prescribed cytomel (T3) to increase your thyroids function (never heard of methimazole).

If you want to take the non-doctor way you can buy an over the counter supp such as PBL's TRx which is a T2-like substance that converts to T3. This stuff really can have a strong effect on your thyroid! Increased thyroid function --> increase in metabolism --> increase in lipid oxidation (fat loss).

Other methods of increasing thyroid function is to manipulate your diet and activity level.

Of the above methods, I've tried T2 and diet/activity manipulation and notice that T2 is really effective when using a low-cal weight loss plan. It is a good way to increase thyroid function when trying to lose weight.

Blindfaith · 10-28-2002, 04:35 PM

t3 (cytomel) is probobly your best bet as far as perscription thyroid hormones go.

But if you want something a little less powerful i would go for l-thyroxine which is alot less potent but still effective.

Or Biotests t-2 original formula is damn good too, but costs more than the perscription stuff.

ive used t3 before...i end up losing too much muscle along with lots of fat...but then again i dont have a thyroid condition.

Del · 10-28-2002, 11:17 PM

I ****ed up my thryoroid via. an unpleasant little illness calle "anorexia" a few years back. Its still recovering (checked this medically) and may take up to 6 years to be fully functional!!!

I find eating every two hours really gives it a kick in the arse, however when this isn't possible, and in times of stress I still have problems.

The TRx and T2 are only short term solutions, hell.. if you abuse them you'll just pummel your metabolism into the ground.

I am thinking of going with 7-keto for awhile, and I presently take l-tryosine 6g/day, spread out on an empty stomache.

Anyone got any studies/info/experience on 7-keto??? I searched pubmed for all its chemical names and found nada.

cheers,

del

Del · 10-29-2002, 02:40 AM

Heh, silly me.. its a registered trademark so they refer to it as 7-keto in the studies...

here a link for those interested: http://www.humaneticscorp.com/7keto/...7ketoabstract1

I will be trying this supp. as it looks extremely promising for someone in my situation

del

amyfit · 10-29-2002, 02:41 AM

Since I'm already on Synthroid, it would be dangerous to take TRX or T3 or something like that right? Is there anything I shold absolutely NOT take?

Thanks,

Amyfit

MsFit · 10-29-2002, 03:10 PM

Hey littlefit!!

Blindfaith · 10-29-2002, 05:12 PM

yeah...if you are taking synthroid than dont take anything else.

Del · 10-29-2002, 07:30 PM

...What are opinions on TRx??? I was gonna get sum but my friend who is studying bio-chem. had big rant-n-rave about how the neural connections keeping thyroid balanced are so sensitive that if you mess with them at all you risk permenant damage.

willowmyer · 10-29-2002, 09:03 PM

I'm using TRx right now.

What your friend said is true, however that is not the whole story. TRx is simply good to use to elevate thyroid function when it would otherwise normally be impared, such as when one diets.

It is also advised to use it for no longer than 4 weeks at a time, because then you do run the risk of causing damage.

Using it to help keep your metabolism up when you are cutting won't cause any long term effects if you use it responsibly.

Malgavito · 10-29-2002, 11:47 PM

what happens if you take thyroid boost... and you dont have prescription

ex... to speed up fat loss

Blindfaith · 10-30-2002, 01:09 AM

it definitely speeds up fat burning...but it also does not discriminate between fat or muscle...so you without taking a prohormone or anabolic you can kiss your hard earned muscle bye bye.

Colin · 10-30-2002, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by amyfit
Hey, I've just found out that my thyroid is bad. I've put on alot of fat and I want rid of it! Does anyone else have to take thyroid meds? If so, can you tell me your experinces?
Thanks!
Amyfit

Guggulbolic by Syntrax is something you should check out.

Luke530 · 10-30-2002, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Del
I ****ed up my thryoroid via. an unpleasant little illness calle "anorexia" a few years back. Its still recovering (checked this medically) and may take up to 6 years to be fully functional!!!

I find eating every two hours really gives it a kick in the arse, however when this isn't possible, and in times of stress I still have problems.

wha tdo you mean by "in times of stress"

I had the same problem as you, although I don't think I fugged my thyroid up... I only experienced "it" for about 5months or so... not even...

Del · 10-30-2002, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luke530
wha tdo you mean by "in times of stress"

I had the same problem as you, although I don't think I fugged my thyroid up... I only experienced "it" for about 5months or so... not even...

I was sick for some time, I was very underweight for about 2years and had to spend time in hospital. I lived off high GI liquid meals for sometime as well, and I don't know what role this had to play.

My thyroid is recovering... but I think anyone who has benn v. starved has a "rememberence" mechanism and quickly downregulates their metabolism. If you were sick for 5months you may have been lucky, but I bet that if you drop calories really quickly your body will go into "starvation mode" faster than a normal persons. I would approach cutting cautiously.

As for stress, it has been shown that this can have a negative effect on thyroid... more so on those already experienceing [thyroid] problems. Also, when I'm stressed its pretty darn hard to keep the meal every 2hours discipline going.

del

amyfit · 10-31-2002, 03:50 AM

wouldn't dieting down the comps pretty much do the same thing? I never noticed anything wrong until after I did my comp(first) last Oct. Afterwards, I kept gaining and gaining even when I'm trying to lose.
Could the diet have done this? Or what about hydroxidrine? I took that alot. I loved it. But now I'm afraid to take it again being on this medicine. And what if the dieting down and supplements DID do this to me. How will I be able to compete again?
Does anybody know for sure, if preparing for a contest can mess up your thyroid?

Amy

WillBrink · 10-31-2002, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by amyfit
Hey, I've just found out that my thyroid is bad. I've put on alot of fat and I want rid of it! Does anyone else have to take thyroid meds? If so, can you tell me your experinces?
Thanks!
Amyfit

Regarding nutrients for optimal thyroid function and meds, see:

http://www.brinkzone.com/qanda3.html

Del · 10-31-2002, 01:41 PM

amyfit, I do think that dieting for a competition will have a negative effect on the thyroid. You can see evidence for this just by looking at how quickly competitive bodybuilders gain after they compete.

Genereally, I would say that they recover fairly quickly since they don't need to diet THAT low b/c of all the excercise being done... Anorexia is definately a differenct beast because you aren't just at a low body-fat but also at a low body weight, and theres a difference btw. 1200cal and 0cal.

Another thing worth considering is that age and gender play a large role in thyroid sensitivity. Females are far likelier to develop problems. How low and for how long did you diet down before your comp??

del

Del · 10-31-2002, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WillBrink
Regarding nutrients for optimal thyroid function and meds, see:

http://www.brinkzone.com/qanda3.html

Nice to have you on the boards Will... welcome!

What are you views on 7-keto???

Luke530 · 10-31-2002, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Del
Also, when I'm stressed its pretty darn hard to keep the meal every 2hours discipline going.

del

why... do you just get hungry?

Del · 10-31-2002, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luke530
why... do you just get hungry?

Nah, I usually either can't bring myself to eat or I eat alot (mainly protein) and then feel too full for the rest of the day.

In times like these I sometimes need to swallow my pride and let someone else (friend, or family) to tell what to eat and when.