Protein and Hot Water?

[Nathan*1]

Hey guys,

I was wanting to know if it is ok to take protein wit hot water? i was thinking that you might be able to get the most from your protein this way because it would probably all disolve. Would hot water effect the protein in any way? would the dissolving of the protein actually effect it? sorry is this is a stupid question

[cupra16]

Protein powder i presume?
Well on most of the protein powder jars etc they say mix with water to get the best effects, personally i dont drink water, so i just mix it with water and just neck it straight away.
I don't think mixing it with warm water will effect it, not tooo sure tho, but mix it with milk to get best benefits, if you like milk

[aqualime]

The hot water would destroy any biological microfractions in the protein so this is a bad idea

[cupra16]

^^ what about cold water

[aqualime]

No, cold water is fine

[cheezefacta]

Cold water also dumps into your system faster than warm water...that and warm water + whey sounds ****ing horrible.

[Quinn77]

The hot water would destroy any biological microfractions in the protein so this is a bad idea

15yr old science major, i'm impressed




if you could drink the water it probly isn't hot enough to destroy the protein, but once again, i' not the expert ^^^he is

[qw3r]

run a search on "denature"

there have been plenty of threads on heating whey protein and its supposed detrimental effects. basically its said to be not as good as with cold water, but still better than nothing and wont hurt you.

i personally like to mix 1/2 - 3/4 scoop of whey with my oatmeal AFTER i cook it.

[Baseball61]

Cold water also dumps into your system faster than warm water...that and warm water + whey sounds ****ing horrible.

It takes time and energy for your body to warm up that cold water to 98.6..
Dumps faster?

[Morbid_Mind]

The hot water would destroy any biological microfractions in the protein so this is a bad idea

I highly doubt that it will get denatured by hot water.

[dance2trance]

"denature"

yep thats the key word right there...the heat physically breaks down the bonds which connect the amino acids in the protein and also break up the 3D folding pattern...in other words, drink your protein with cold water

[greid4]

For the most part, your body breaks down the protein you take in into amino acids and builds what it needs on it's own anyway. Besides, your water would have to be pretty damn hot for it to denature most protein bonds, and if it did, then you'd be dumping an unfolded amino acid chain into your system. No harm there.

[BIG-BOSS]

sure why don't u just spread it on some toast and put in the toaster

[Never2cut]

not a bad question actually, I've considered heating up some milk and mixing it with my-pre bed mix. would be similar to hot chocolate i think/hope. might have to try it tonight.

[cheezefacta]

It takes time and energy for your body to warm up that cold water to 98.6..
Dumps faster?

Yes, I had a class about the body in college and we talked about this subject...we went over this fact several times and the body does allow cold water to 'dump' in faster than warm water. It came up because one of the questions was "why do i feel hydrated quicker when drinking cold water over warm water"...

[ck37]

during the winter months, i find it hard to go the cold water ice route when it comes to protein shakes. So i tend to make hot protein cocoa drinks instead. The key is to find a powder that A. tastes good and B) mixes easily in water.

Whats interesting I found is there are a few powders that mix right in with just adding a scoop to hot water, while others need to be added to luke warm water, blended slightly, and then heated up for a couple of minutes.

I also add unsweetened cocoa powder (favorite so far is Droste unsweetened cocoa powder) and stevia or splenda for additional sweetness. Also cinnamon for a nice addtional kick)
No real need for milk unless you really want it.

No negative effects so far. Only problem is one cup is usually so good I want a second

[Shutup]

what about boling the hell out of whey, like making a pot of tea?

I couldn't resist...

[Rachel_n_SD]

if you can drink it, its not hot enough to denature the protein. plus, all types of cooking denatures protein, so unless you eat raw eggs and chicken breast like the chick in million dollar baby, we all eat denatured protein. as long as your eating 1.5 grams per pound of lbm, you should be getting enough extra to make up the difference. plus, chocolate protein mixed with hot water tastes like hot chocolate.

[hockeydude27]

what about boling the hell out of whey, like making a pot of tea?

I couldn't resist...

Yea I wouldn't suggest actually boiling the water with whey in it, or mixing whey with boiling water (anything under boiling should be fine)...I made that mistake when I was using Micelean Edge Chocolate+PB Protein Powder before bed and it was cold out and they were my last two scoops and I figured what the heck it will probably taste like hot chocolate, I mixed in the protein and it all clumped to the top even after mixing it forever, and when I did manage to choke it down it tasted like burnt...well burnt something I can't even describe it. But if that sounds appetizing then go for it lol!

[boco del toro]

cooking and heat do denature proteins, however only at the second, third and fourth protein structural level. creating a physical change in third structure shape can negatively impact on the function of proteins to a certain degree, however for consumption purposes, we need to be more concerned with the breaking down of primary structures of proteins. These can only be broken down by hydrolysis. The peptide bonds holding the amino acids in place will only seperate with water. therfore - heat can in part have a negative impact on the function of protein, however to fully break proteins apart, hydrolysis is required, not heat.

[Shorty]

cooking and heat do denature proteins, however only at the second, third and fourth protein structural level. creating a physical change in third structure shape can negatively impact on the function of proteins to a certain degree, however for consumption purposes, we need to be more concerned with the breaking down of primary structures of proteins. These can only be broken down by hydrolysis. The peptide bonds holding the amino acids in place will only seperate with water. therfore - heat can in part have a negative impact on the function of protein, however to fully break proteins apart, hydrolysis is required, not heat.

YEAH! What he said!

[pitch28]

del toro is right.

When you cook eggs or chicken, you're denaturing the protein but only on the physical level (I forget the technical terms of the bonds and arrangements). The look/texture changes but the available protein is still there.

[jrkarp]

Jesus Christ.

A cow's body temperature is, on average, 101.5 degrees Farenheit.

The protein while it's in the cow is not denaturing at that termperature. I seriously doubt that the protein is going to denature at a drinkable temperature.

And furthermore, people make way too big a deal about denaturing. Let's remember that when eggs go from clear to white on the frying pan, it's because the proteins are being denatured. Any protein source that you eat that is cooked, like meat, chicken, eggs, fish, etc. I'm pretty sure that those are still good sources of protein for bodybuilding purposes.

[RavensFan2k3]

Protein powder i presume?
Well on most of the protein powder jars etc they say mix with water to get the best effects, personally i dont drink water, so i just mix it with water and just neck it straight away.
I don't think mixing it with warm water will effect it, not tooo sure tho, but mix it with milk to get best benefits, if you like milk

You put it in milk even post workout?

[halfcoat]

I don't know how it would taste either I can't even think about drinking a hot vannilla protien shake YUCK!!!!! I will stick to my cold water.

[DinoT1985]

30g of chocolate ON Whey in a cup of hot water and milk. Sounds like a healthy coco drink.

[PlatinumPlus]

if protein is 'denatured' when hot then what about the protein in my steak when i get it well done? and also why would muscle milk's mocha joe says "try it hot!" on the label?

[TimoteoS]

MRM Metabolic Whey in hot water is better than hot chocolate!

[RippedJordanian]

Dude just mix it with cold water and be on the safe side. If you're worried about it not dissolving in cold water, just add more cold water.

I used to mix my ON 100% Chocolate Whey protein in the winter with room temp milk. Then i would heat it in the microwave, it tastes sooo good especially in the winter coz u dont wnana drink something cold. THe microwave might have done something to the protein so i stopoed.

[Amino89]

This is the closest example in understandable English I could find..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/asgur...ng/index.shtml

Muscle Milk has a flavor of protein called Mocha Joe and it suggests you microwave it for 30-60 seconds for a real Mocha Joe effect. I hardly doubt they would suggest something like that, if it caused the protein to denature and be next to useless. I would just stick to drinking it cold ^agree with if you can drink it it's not hot enough to denature.