ZMA, looks too good to be true!

**The Rob** · 10-26-2002, 12:45 PM

the more I read on this product the more I want to try it. It looks too good to be true, I can't seem to find anyonebody talkign about side effects or anything.....

can you guys gimme more info on this? (yes I read the bb articles)

PS: any risks for someone young takign this? it's not like prohormones is it?

**The Rob** · 10-26-2002, 12:47 PM

oh, also is aspartate aspartame? as in the cancer causing thingy?

**Antonio** · 10-26-2002, 12:49 PM

No risks or side effects whatsoever.

**The Rob** · 10-26-2002, 12:51 PM

can you also plz tell me aqbout benefits other then things I read?

and no side effects regardless of age?

**windwords7** · 10-26-2002, 12:51 PM

Yeah, Zinc, Magnesium and B6 are amazing?! You get the exact same ingredients when you take a multivitamin. It's good to take because when you lift you get depleted but its just minerals and vitamins.

**The Rob** · 10-26-2002, 12:55 PM

lol, who would have guessed that vitamins could have such a positive effect!

this should be taken post workout right?

**institutional** · 10-26-2002, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by The Rob
the more I read on this product the more I want to try it. It looks too good to be true, I can't seem to find anyonebody talkign about side effects or anything.....

can you guys gimme more info on this? (yes I read the bb articles)

PS: any risks for someone young takign this? it's not like prohormones is it?

dont confuse ZMA with prohormones or other anabolics. its nothing more than some minerals that your body loses with intense exercise. so all you are doing is keeping these levels up. and helping to keep your natural test levels normal.

**windwords7** · 10-26-2002, 12:57 PM

Dude, take it at night but understand that unless you have low testosterone already it will do nothing for you excpet replenish your zinc, mag and b6 stores. You wont see gains off of it and you won't have sides. Its just minerals and vitamins.

**institutional** · 10-26-2002, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by The Rob
lol, who would have guessed that vitamins could have such a positive effect!

this should be taken post workout right?

its recommended to take b4 bedtime. dont take it within 30 mins of consuming calcium, as this stops the absorbtion of zinc. this also helps many people sleep better. peace

**The Rob** · 10-26-2002, 01:01 PM

so with zma are gains more likely or same?

**institutional** · 10-26-2002, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by The Rob
so with zma are gains more likely or same?

the same. now stop it, there is no more about ZMA worth worrying about. and next time do a search buddy, cuz that way you will learn more about it.

**windwords7** · 10-26-2002, 01:06 PM

Gains are not enhanced by ZMA. It can aid in recovery. You can get the same ingredients from Target and the like for much less money.

**HopkinsSTUD** · 10-26-2002, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by windwords7
Gains are not enhanced by ZMA. It can aid in recovery. You can get the same ingredients from Target and the like for much less money.

actaully if youre talking about the cheap zinc you buy at drug stores, its not the same as the zinc in ZMA. The zinc in ZMA is more readily absorbed by the body.

**manowar** · 10-26-2002, 06:13 PM

You do not have to hav elow test levels to get the benefits of ZMA. I am pretty sure the football players used in the study did not have low test levels, and their free test levels went up 43.7 percent along with a 250% greater increase in strength than the control group. You can also NOT duplicate the formula with regular zinc/mag/b6 supp. The aspertate molecule is bigger and absorbed better and the formula is real exact. I am using ZMA now and it works real well. Its the real deal.

**windwords7** · 10-26-2002, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by manowar
You do not have to hav elow test levels to get the benefits of ZMA. I am pretty sure the football players used in the study did not have low test levels, and their free test levels went up 43.7 percent along with a 250% greater increase in strength than the control group. You can also NOT duplicate the formula with regular zinc/mag/b6 supp. The aspertate molecule is bigger and absorbed better and the formula is real exact. I am using ZMA now and it works real well. Its the real deal.

LMAO. Your a moron. Good luck on your anabolic minerals.....

**windwords7** · 10-26-2002, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by HopkinsSTUD
actaully if youre talking about the cheap zinc you buy at drug stores, its not the same as the zinc in ZMA. The zinc in ZMA is more readily absorbed by the body.

Do you realize how many times this has been discussed in detail on this board. Molocule difference or not, the results are the same.

**institutional** · 10-26-2002, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by manowar
You do not have to hav elow test levels to get the benefits of ZMA. I am pretty sure the football players used in the study did not have low test levels, and their free test levels went up 43.7 percent along with a 250% greater increase in strength than the control group. You can also NOT duplicate the formula with regular zinc/mag/b6 supp. The aspertate molecule is bigger and absorbed better and the formula is real exact. I am using ZMA now and it works real well. Its the real deal.

haha, good laugh, i hope you get huge with your ZMA.

**YellowJacket** · 10-27-2002, 12:16 AM

Do I actually have to workout when on ZMA? I dont like to sweat really....

**windwords7** · 10-27-2002, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Do I actually have to workout when on ZMA? I dont like to sweat really....

LMAO bro. Yeah, all this time and education and we've been missing it the whole time! ZMA is the supplement that will make us huge! Like manowar said, the football players in the test prove it all! We've been duped........gimme a break, will it never end!!!

**YellowJacket** · 10-27-2002, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by windwords7
LMAO bro. Yeah, all this time and education and we've been missing it the whole time! ZMA is the supplement that will make us huge! Like manowar said, the football players in the test prove it all! We've been duped........gimme a break, will it never end!!!

Yea, ****, Im gonna dump my AAS and save some money with this ZMA ****! What an epiphany!

**manowar** · 10-27-2002, 10:03 AM

Oh I am a moron. Okay have you even tried A Legit ZMA formula? No probably not, you just look at it or read the ingredients and think you know it all and just fire away. What are you guys scared of being wrong, too late you are.
I never said the football players proved it all, just that their test levels were not low, since they wee in the 18 to 25 age range. Maybe if you jackasses read the study, you would know what I am talking about. ZMA is not an anabolic mineral you idiot, its a formula that helps boos tyor test production, and helps you sleep better as a side effect. But just for laughs the study was published in Mediocal Science Sport Exercise. in May of 1999 by Brilla and Conte. Conte is the patent holder on the formula. So read that if you can, and then maybe give it a shot and see what happens. but you probably won't, you'll just keep on blasting it with no ivvestigation at all. And you punks call me a moron. What a laugh, get a clue. come to think of it it probably wouldn't work for you anyway, you are probably one of these *******s who just works arms all day.

**YellowJacket** · 10-27-2002, 10:11 AM

I have given it a shot and nothing, not impressed, not worth the money, you are more than welcome to use it, but as far as calling us jackasses, we've forgotten more than you'll ever know son so I suggest your alter your language if you'd like to stay here.

**manowar** · 10-27-2002, 10:40 AM

Oh and you guys can call me a moron. Not all supplements work for all people. I ahve never claimed that ZMA, just that for me it works pretty well, and that unlike alot of other supplements out there, there was actual science behind it. They did the study before putting it on the market. As for my tone, people want to jump on me, thats what they are going to get, and since you have no idea how long I have been training or what for, syaying you no more than me is a joke. I do not claim to know everything as you seem to be, but I know a good deal. So spare the son crap If I chose to stay I will if I get banned or whatever fine not really a big deal either, so far I am really not impresed with these forums. Take care now, Bye Bye then.

**YellowJacket** · 10-27-2002, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by manowar
syaying you no more than me is a joke. I do not claim to know everything as you seem to be, but I know a good deal. .

Ive spent many years in school and many months on here learning, so I dont think you're quite on my level or WW7's so my adivce to you is if you dont like the team, leave the stadium, simple. And if you have any furthur problems, please take it to PMs and quit cluttering my board with ****, you might bae able to do this at your board, but not here, thank you.

**manowar** · 10-27-2002, 11:10 AM

Well, good for you, why don't you try being more openminded. So you've spent may years in school and on this site? Good for you, I posted my opinion and some info that ANYBODY could check on if they really wanted to. Instead i've got you telling me I don't know anything and someone else calling me a moron. And you say i am cluttering the board with ****, try reading your own posts *******. But I will agree with just two thing you said, I am not on your level, I am way above you and since I am not going to run and cry to the Pm cause of you to idiots, I think I will leave theis piss poor atdium. Have fun in your little fishbowl, too bad you are missing the real world.

**institutional** · 10-27-2002, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by manowar
Well, good for you, why don't you try being more openminded. So you've spent may years in school and on this site? Good for you, I posted my opinion and some info that ANYBODY could check on if they really wanted to. Instead i've got you telling me I don't know anything and someone else calling me a moron. And you say i am cluttering the board with ****, try reading your own posts *******. But I will agree with just two thing you said, I am not on your level, I am way above you and since I am not going to run and cry to the Pm cause of you to idiots, I think I will leave theis piss poor atdium. Have fun in your little fishbowl, too bad you are missing the real world.

good bye my little bitch.

**jweave23** · 10-27-2002, 12:54 PM

So here is a link to some info:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...threadid=17417

**windwords7** · 10-27-2002, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by manowar
, syaying you no more than me is a joke. I do not claim to know everything as you seem to be, but I know a good deal. So spare the son crap.

Read that statement again and tell me, who knows more about what? Please.......LOL. You are amusing though.

**powercleansrule** · 10-27-2002, 01:51 PM

Okay, after reading this entire thread I have decided that there is entirely too much macho bull**** going on. Manowar started out okay, the stuff about the stdy was right on, it was one of the things I read before I tried ZMA, took it for 12 weeks and it worked really well for me. then some people jumped on him, with some smartass reamrks and called him a moron and everything went to hell. manowar You overreacted, so someone called you a moron, let it go, he does not know you so who cares? Then we got into the I know more than you bull ****. Hey yellow jacket and windwords7 who cares how much you know if you come across as a bunch of *******s? Institutional, what damn purpose did calling him a little bitch serve? Not one damn thing, except you got your jollies. OOh big deal.
You don't agree with something thats posted, cool, explain why, don't just flame the person.So what could have been a nice thread about opinions and facts about ZMA turned into this. What a fukin waste.

**windwords7** · 10-27-2002, 02:09 PM

You have no idea how it works around here. ZMA has already been discussed and put away around here. When we tell people its worthless for anything other than post cycle recovery and general nutrient replenishment, we are trying to help them, to save them some money. Then when that person comes back with the same biased tired research that claims it "works", you get "educationally flamed".

This was your first post powercleansrule. Which means you were either banned and are back, or your just a newcomer. Either way you will find quickly that there is a right and wrong way to things around here. You do not make the board adapt to you, YOU adapt to the board.

If you want to go spend your money on stuff that will not work in ways that it claims to. Fine. But that has nothing to do with opinion. It's a fact that it wont work in the ways that it was being claimed and to that end you will never prevail with that lame logic about "opinions" here.

We like science and fact. Read my signature carefully and then go read the thread that is linked a few posts up and have some fun.

WW7

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