Stacking Thunder, Green Bulge and White Blood

[cpduk]

Just bought all 3 products after reading some peoples ideas and thoughts on the forum.

Has anyone ever done this before and if so, what were you experiences?

I know what some of you will think - I have just gone and spent a load of money for probably not much gain - but hey, f**k it, im in an experimental mood. ;-)

Let me know...

-C

[Jimmyp]

This should be a good stack and I'm sure you will have GREAT pumps and muscle hardness during workouts! The stack is a little overkill because you are using 2 creatine products but they should still complement each other well. I also just bought GB and thunder to be used simultaneously, should be fun!

[cpduk]

Cheers Jimmy

Any other comments ?

[Mr.Brown]

Why would you guys waste your money and CEE? "Essentially" Thunder and GB are the same type of product. Why stack them when you could yield the same results by using one. Either one would stack great with White Blood, but to stack Thunder/Bulge and WB seems foolish to me, but to each his own.

[musicfreak]

I agree why stack two of the same product? But hey if it works for you go at it man.

[Elite_is3]

yea much cheaper to just stack a BULK CEE after POST WO

[bigfinn]

Originally Posted by musicfreak

I agree why stack two of the same product? But hey if it works for you go at it man.

Thunder and Green Bulge are NOT the same products...check labels. Because they are different, Thunder is best pre-workout and Bulge post-workout.

[REVIVAL]

Originally Posted by bigfinn

Thunder and Green Bulge are NOT the same products...check labels. Because they are different, Thunder is best pre-workout and Bulge post-workout.

Yup different ingredients. Pu did a nice comparison not to long ago. Definatley able to stack both of them if money is not an issue.

[msia]

Originally Posted by bigfinn

Thunder and Green Bulge are NOT the same products...check labels. Because they are different, Thunder is best pre-workout and Bulge post-workout.

I would have to disagree they are both CEE products and PRE-WORKOUT supplement. The only difference I know so far from Green Bulge and Thunder is that Thunder has caffeine on it.

If I were you stack GB and WB first then Thunder and WB to save money. This is my own opinion some may disagree and I will respect it.

Goodluck bro....

[h0ckeyfreek20]

Originally Posted by bigfinn

Thunder and Green Bulge are NOT the same products...check labels. Because they are different, Thunder is best pre-workout and Bulge post-workout.

actually WB and GB are both supposed to be taken 30-45 minutes prior to your workout. unless of course, the label is wrong

[siimng1979]

I would say use either GB or Thunder, not the two together. It might work for you, I wish you well and hope it does, but I doubt it's necessary...

[cpduk]

Alright guys, just got back from the gym and thought you would be interested to know what I experienced.

8:15PM - Took 8 x Thunder, 5 x GB, 3 x WB
9:00PM - Started my arm workout which consisted of:

500m on the rower to get the old pulse racing a little
3 sets of Alternate Incline Dumbbell Curl - 10 reps each.
3 sets of Dual Arm Cable Tricep Extension - 10 reps each
2 sets of Concentration Curls - (10 reps, 6 reps)
2 sets of Alternate Incline Dumbbell Curl - 10 reps each
2 sets of Dual Arm Cable Tricep Extension - 10 reps each

Then last but not least 21's doing Dumbbell Bicep Curls.

Its now 10:15PM and im feeling awesome !!!!

Well pleased with this result so far considering when I got into lifting I started on Creatine from my local health food shop, moving onto liquid creatine, shortly followed by VNS Jacked. Then I discovered Thunder finding some OK results, then stacking with WB and now adding the final ingredient, GB!

During my workout this evening I was able to lift heavier weights for more reps. I have never been very vascular, but could really see a difference in my arms and at one point could of sworn I saw the beginnings of veins in my biceps (something which I have always wanted but never been able to get!!!) so all in all a bloody good lifting sesh.

Its expensive, but following tonights experience the money aint that bad for the results I have had so far.

Will let you guys know of any other future gains.

-C

[bigfinn]

Originally Posted by msia

I would have to disagree they are both CEE products and PRE-WORKOUT supplement. The only difference I know so far from Green Bulge and Thunder is that Thunder has caffeine on it.

If I were you stack GB and WB first then Thunder and WB to save money. This is my own opinion some may disagree and I will respect it.

Goodluck bro....

Major differences

Thunder contains Caffeine... Bulge does not
Thunder contains a nootropic... Bulge does not
Thunder contains GMS... Bulge does not
Thunder contains electrolytes... Bulge does not

Bulge contains Taurine.... thunder does not
Bulge contains TMG.... thunder does not
Bulge contains MCC.... thunder does not
Bulge contains k-rala.... thunder does not
Bulge contains AEE.... thunder does not

This is why Thunder is best pre-workout and Bulge post if taken together. If taken alone, both pre-workout as directed.

[Mr.Brown]

Originally Posted by bigfinn

Major differences

Thunder contains Caffeine... Bulge does not
Thunder contains a nootropic... Bulge does not
Thunder contains GMS... Bulge does not
Thunder contains electrolytes... Bulge does not

Bulge contains Taurine.... thunder does not
Bulge contains TMG.... thunder does not
Bulge contains MCC.... thunder does not
Bulge contains k-rala.... thunder does not
Bulge contains AEE.... thunder does not

This is why Thunder is best pre-workout and Bulge post if taken together. If taken alone, both pre-workout as directed.

Spin it how ever you wish, but both products contain enough CEE that your body would need so taking additional amounts is useless thus wasting your money and two solid products.

[Jimmyp]

you're not wasting your money, you're just not being as cost effective as you could be with bulk cee. Also, the most abundant creatine in GB is Magnesium creatine chelate while thunder contains creatine ethyl ester. Both products work well on there own - using them together will only provide a little extra creatine and supporting goodies!
P.S. - just got back from the gym using these 2 products and still have AWESOME PUMP!

[bigfinn]

Originally Posted by Jimmyp

you're not wasting your money, you're just not being as cost effective as you could be with bulk cee. Also, the most abundant creatine in GB is Magnesium creatine chelate while thunder contains creatine ethyl ester. Both products work well on there own - using them together will only provide a little extra creatine and supporting goodies!
P.S. - just got back from the gym using these 2 products and still have AWESOME PUMP!

Right! I still can't believe some people view Thunder and GB as the same product...next month I may stack Thunder/GB/Nitro Evolution.

[siimng1979]

Originally Posted by bigfinn

Thunder is best pre-workout and Bulge post-workout.

Is GB a post creatine? I thought it wwas a pre.....???

[deserusan]

An expensive stack but probably really effective!

[fit coach]

The thing is that your body can only store so much creatine. Once your stores are saturated, the rest is wasted. After your stores are saturated it takes as little as 2-3 grms. per day (when training hard) to keep them full. Sounds like overkill with those two products. I would take one, then when your run out, take the other.

You do not get any additional benefit from taking additional creatine.

[cpduk]

Well im gonna have a crack at it for this month and then see if there are any noticable gains.

We shall see !

[Mr.Brown]

Here is an interresting comment from Matpal the man who brought us Thunder:

"Take Thunder every day for optimal results. Those that only take it 3 days a week are not seeing the results others are...or at least take bulk CEE and bulk GMS on off days to save some cash.

No need for more CEE postworkout; a waste of product IMO."


Hmmmmm, guess I was right imagine that. No need to take them both.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=678682

[Big Jim]

2 questions
I have read numerous threads on WB, GB, Thunder, NO-Xplode, and Cellmass. The only stack I have been on is the Xplode and Cellmass stack and it seemed to work great but like everyone says it can get kinda expensive.
Now I really like the idea of taking Thunder as a pre workout supp but my first question is "Why would cellmass want you to take a serving right after the workout" I mean it seems to me like all these other supps. are pre workout only.
BSN could care less if you took Cellmass 4-6 hours before or after the serving right after the workout. It just seems like they believe it is the most important to take it right after.
So my second question would be "is it good to have a cee as a post workout supp."

[Ressurected]

Originally Posted by bigfinn

Major differences

Thunder contains Caffeine... Bulge does not
Thunder contains a nootropic... Bulge does not
Thunder contains GMS... Bulge does not
Thunder contains electrolytes... Bulge does not

Bulge contains Taurine.... thunder does not
Bulge contains TMG.... thunder does not
Bulge contains MCC.... thunder does not
Bulge contains k-rala.... thunder does not
Bulge contains AEE.... thunder does not

This is why Thunder is best pre-workout and Bulge post if taken together. If taken alone, both pre-workout as directed.

wot a moron. why would Controlled labs say that GB is preworkout(as it is) and make it as a post. i mean wtf, i had a great results with GB WB stack and i didnt even use any post workout CEE.
That guy is on drugs, if CL wanted to make GB as a post workout product they would make one.THey have snough moneyh

[deserusan]

Originally Posted by Ressurected

wot a moron. why would Controlled labs say that GB is preworkout(as it is) and make it as a post. i mean wtf, i had a great results with GB WB stack and i didnt even use any post workout CEE.
That guy is on drugs, if CL wanted to make GB as a post workout product they would make one.THey have snough moneyh

You don't need to take GB pre workout only. Optimally, if you are stacking with bulk CEE than it is better to take it pre workout. However, if you are stacking it with something like Thunder than it would be better suited as a post workout creatine. The only morons on the board are the ones who hang on to every word a company rep has to say without thinking for themselves.

[Mr.Brown]

Originally Posted by deserusan

The only morons on the board are the ones who hang on to every word a company rep has to say without thinking for themselves.

I'll take that as a shot at myself since I posted the opinion of Omega Sports' MattPal. But if you actually read this thread you would see that I had my own opinion prior to posting Matt's statement, thus I did think for myself. So, you sir are the moron and should actually read a thread before taking a shot at someone.

Bottom line: Either Thunder or Green Bulge provides your body with ENOUGH CEE so that there IS NO NEED to supplement more creatine. One benefit of CEE is that the absorption rate is significantly higher thus needing actually less creatine. Your body can only absorb so much. So why would you take another quality product knowing that your body is already saturated with CEE.

Do you continue to fill your gas tank once it's full....NO. Why? Because once the tank is full it's full and the excess would just spill out and be wasted just like too much CEE and the money you would spend on it. If you really want to take it post then get some bulk CEE or mono and save the cash. You''ll still be wasting some, but not as much.

[bigfinn]

Originally Posted by Ressurected

wot a moron. why would Controlled labs say that GB is preworkout(as it is) and make it as a post. i mean wtf, i had a great results with GB WB stack and i didnt even use any post workout CEE.
That guy is on drugs, if CL wanted to make GB as a post workout product they would make one.THey have snough moneyh

Sir, you need to slow down and read my post carefully. Thunder and Green Bulge are not the same product...Agreed? Therefore, if one was to utilize both products together, because of the properties of each, Thunder would be best pre and GB post. If taken alone, both should be pre.

Now, about the moron and on drugs stuff...not necessary.

[deserusan]

Originally Posted by Mr.Brown

I'll take that as a shot at myself since I posted the opinion of Omega Sports' MattPal. But if you actually read this thread you would see that I had my own opinion prior to posting Matt's statement, thus I did think for myself. So, you sir are the moron and should actually read a thread before taking a shot at someone.

Bottom line: Either Thunder or Green Bulge provides your body with ENOUGH CEE so that there IS NO NEED to supplement more creatine. One benefit of CEE is that the absorption rate is significantly higher thus needing actually less creatine. Your body can only absorb so much. So why would you take another quality product knowing that your body is already saturated with CEE.

Do you continue to fill your gas tank once it's full....NO. Why? Because once the tank is full it's full and the excess would just spill out and be wasted just like too much CEE and the money you would spend on it. If you really want to take it post then get some bulk CEE or mono and save the cash. You''ll still be wasting some, but not as much.

Did I quote you? Making personal attacks is going to get you nowhere fast. As to the basis of your argument there is absolutely no evidence to support what you are saying and you are reaching. It has been proven that creatine stores do get depleted during a workout and is why the post workout dose is beneficial. Furthermore, your body itself uses 2-3 grams daily for normal bodily functions. Now combine that with a diet that doesn't include red meats and a rigorous workout schedule and you then see why people prefer more than one serving of CEE. I do agree that the stack in question is expensive but it will be more effective than if no post workout creatine was taken. Please base your arguments off of something more than what a rep has to say and bad metaphors.

[xJonathanx]

Green Bulge can be taken either pre workout or post.

Thunder has stimulants, and would therefore be suited for pre-workout for the energized effect.

Green Bulge is recommended to take pre-workout, because it will enhance pumps/creatine uptake. However, you can take it post also.

Personally, I think this poster would be better off using one product at a time, for that will last him longer and be worth his money.

Purchase another bottle of White Blood, and run the GB+WB for 30 days, then Thunder+WB for 30 days. 60 days total, instead of 30 days.

Too much of anything is not a good thing...you won't need both creatine products at the same time, IMO.

-Jon

[CONTROLLED LABS]

Originally Posted by xJonathanx

Green Bulge can be taken either pre workout or post.

Thunder has stimulants, and would therefore be suited for pre-workout for the energized effect.

Green Bulge is recommended to take pre-workout, because it will enhance pumps/creatine uptake. However, you can take it post also.

Personally, I think this poster would be better off using one product at a time, for that will last him longer and be worth his money.

Purchase another bottle of White Blood, and run the GB+WB for 30 days, then Thunder+WB for 30 days. 60 days total, instead of 30 days.

Too much of anything is not a good thing...you won't need both creatine products at the same time, IMO.

-Jon

this is good advice, thread starter should use this

[Mr.Brown]

Originally Posted by xJonathanx

Green Bulge can be taken either pre workout or post.

Thunder has stimulants, and would therefore be suited for pre-workout for the energized effect.

Green Bulge is recommended to take pre-workout, because it will enhance pumps/creatine uptake. However, you can take it post also.

Personally, I think this poster would be better off using one product at a time, for that will last him longer and be worth his money.

Purchase another bottle of White Blood, and run the GB+WB for 30 days, then Thunder+WB for 30 days. 60 days total, instead of 30 days.

Too much of anything is not a good thing...you won't need both creatine products at the same time, IMO.

-Jon

Thank you. And thank you Controlled Labs for stating the obvious as well.