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    Aceman's AMP/HEAT Log

    Stats: 188 lbs
    8-9 % BF (using the 7-site skin caliper test)
    5'11''

    Cutting plans/Goals: Reduced caloried diet (approx 2,500 ED) @ a 40/40/20 macronutrient P/C/F ration...cardio (HIIT) 3-4X a week. Want to get down to 6'7% BF, but still maintain bodyweight

    Stim Use History:AMP-USED IT, LOVED IT 5 out of 5
    HEAT- NEver used it, looks very intriguing, and I love AL
    E/C stack- Very good energy, gave me the jitters/anxiety
    Startbucks Coffee- Juice in a cup...best non-pill stim EVER
    Diesel Fuel-Good stuff, mood enhancement, made me hungry
    R4W-Horrid Taste- Like a better version on NOXPLODE/SP250
    Hydroxycut-SUCKED
    Lean Green- Good to stack w/ amp, health benefits are nice
    VPX Redline-Very Nice, not as good as AMP, but prolly #2 in my book...good for energy + the unwanted jitters

    *Not really interested in appetite suppression as I have a wicked high metabolism, but I have never met a stimulant, even EPHEDRINE HCL 25 mg, that has made me NOT hungry

    Got my AMP and HEAT today. I have used AMP in the past, and loved it, but have never used HEAT. It is quite intriguing, a "stim" w/o caffeine or ehpedrine? Could this be a night-time stim? The ingredients are also quite innovative and fascinating, especially the alpha-yohimbine...I have read a few threads by Loki that have states the A-Y is superior and acts via totally different pathways the plain old yohimbine, which I do not particularly fancy.
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    Originally Posted by aceman0920
    Stats: 188 lbs
    8-9 % BF (using the 7-site skin caliper test)
    5'11''

    Cutting plans/Goals: Reduced caloried diet (approx 2,500 ED) @ a 40/40/20 macronutrient P/C/F ration...cardio (HIIT) 3-4X a week. Want to get down to 6'7% BF, but still maintain bodyweight

    Stim Use History:AMP-USED IT, LOVED IT 5 out of 5
    HEAT- NEver used it, looks very intriguing, and I love AL
    E/C stack- Very good energy, gave me the jitters/anxiety
    Startbucks Coffee- Juice in a cup...best non-pill stim EVER
    Diesel Fuel-Good stuff, mood enhancement, made me hungry
    R4W-Horrid Taste- Like a better version on NOXPLODE/SP250
    Hydroxycut-SUCKED
    Lean Green- Good to stack w/ amp, health benefits are nice
    VPX Redline-Very Nice, not as good as AMP, but prolly #2 in my book...good for energy + the unwanted jitters

    *Not really interested in appetite suppression as I have a wicked high metabolism, but I have never met a stimulant, even EPHEDRINE HCL 25 mg, that has made me NOT hungry

    Got my AMP and HEAT today. I have used AMP in the past, and loved it, but have never used HEAT. It is quite intriguing, a "stim" w/o caffeine or ehpedrine? Could this be a night-time stim? The ingredients are also quite innovative and fascinating, especially the alpha-yohimbine...I have read a few threads by Loki that have states the A-Y is superior and acts via totally different pathways the plain old yohimbine, which I do not particularly fancy.
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    Cool! I will be taking my first dose tomorrow before breakfast as per the instructions...then have a light breakfast and hit the gym 45 min later.
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    Day 1

    Did not have time to post yesterday, so I will do it now.

    I woke up, took 1 AMP and 2 HEAT w/ 8 oz of water, and waited half an hour before having my protein shake and whole wheat bagel. The AMP/HEAT took about 30-45 minutes to start feeling, not 10-20 minutes like the E/C stack, but I was already expecting this and that is why I timed its consumption appropriately. How can I describe it? When I went to they gym I did triceps. I did:

    3 sets weighted dips
    3 sets skullcrushers
    3 sets close grip bench press
    20 minutes of light cardio to warmup
    The energy from AMP/HEAT is not as "noticeable" as the E/C stack, but that is certainly a good othing. It doesn't hit you like a ton of bricks, like "OMG I can't believe how much energy I have but why am I shaking/anxious all of a sudden?" It is more of a smooth, clean energy with a positive side effect of mood enhancement. I found myself generally more talkative that usual and talking to people that usually annoy me/I would avoid.
    The most impressive feature of this combo for the first day was the focus/ "in the zone" effect that I got when @ the gym. I was not distracted by other people's actions/side conversations. I knew what I had to do and I did it. Now w/ the E/C stack, I would prolly crash heavily 2-3 hours after consumption. This did not happen w/ the AMP/HEAT stack. I went to work after my workout and had a steady stream of energy all day. I took the first dose @ 10 AM, and the energy lasted me until 4:30 PM @ which point I took my second dose on an empty stomache. This was great because it did not mess with my sleep @ all. In fact, I slept rather well.
    A few questions that I will be toying with during my log is: What are the social modifications if any of taking AMP/HEAT? How does this stack compare to 2 AMP alone? And finally, will taking HEAT on its own close to bed time keep one awake(no caffeine)? Par Deus or anyone from AL feel free to chime in w/ insights on these questions, but I will certainly be answering them myself in the future. Peace.
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    Originally Posted by aceman0920
    Did not have time to post yesterday, so I will do it now.

    I woke up, took 1 AMP and 2 HEAT w/ 8 oz of water, and waited half an hour before having my protein shake and whole wheat bagel. The AMP/HEAT took about 30-45 minutes to start feeling, not 10-20 minutes like the E/C stack, but I was already expecting this and that is why I timed its consumption appropriately. How can I describe it? When I went to they gym I did triceps. I did:

    3 sets weighted dips
    3 sets skullcrushers
    3 sets close grip bench press
    20 minutes of light cardio to warmup
    The energy from AMP/HEAT is not as "noticeable" as the E/C stack, but that is certainly a good othing. It doesn't hit you like a ton of bricks, like "OMG I can't believe how much energy I have but why am I shaking/anxious all of a sudden?" It is more of a smooth, clean energy with a positive side effect of mood enhancement. I found myself generally more talkative that usual and talking to people that usually annoy me/I would avoid.
    The most impressive feature of this combo for the first day was the focus/ "in the zone" effect that I got when @ the gym. I was not distracted by other people's actions/side conversations. I knew what I had to do and I did it. Now w/ the E/C stack, I would prolly crash heavily 2-3 hours after consumption. This did not happen w/ the AMP/HEAT stack. I went to work after my workout and had a steady stream of energy all day. I took the first dose @ 10 AM, and the energy lasted me until 4:30 PM @ which point I took my second dose on an empty stomache. This was great because it did not mess with my sleep @ all. In fact, I slept rather well.
    A few questions that I will be toying with during my log is: What are the social modifications if any of taking AMP/HEAT? How does this stack compare to 2 AMP alone? And finally, will taking HEAT on its own close to bed time keep one awake(no caffeine)? Par Deus or anyone from AL feel free to chime in w/ insights on these questions, but I will certainly be answering them myself in the future. Peace.
    Personally I took 4 AMP caps about 2 hours before bedtime and fell right asleep.
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    LOL WHAT? This is 280 mg of caffeine dude?
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    Originally Posted by aceman0920
    LOL WHAT? This is 280 mg of caffeine dude?
    no lie, my tolerance is high.

    I started out with 4 caps the second day on AMP.
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    ooooh u so crazy! That sux man. Do u fare well w/ the E/C stack?
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    Originally Posted by aceman0920
    ooooh u so crazy! That sux man. Do u fare well w/ the E/C stack?
    lol yeah.

    But about 4 tabs of 8 mg = 32 mg along with 500 mg caffeine usually does it for me.

    I should probably lower the caffeine amount though.
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    Day 2

    Ok guys....yesterday was legs days, the hardest of the hard, but we've got to do them! I popped 1 AMP and 2 HEAT on an empty stomach upon awakening (9 am), took my protein shake and carbs 30 minutes later, and headed to the gym....Weight/BF (based on the 7 point caliper test) have remained the same @ 188 lbs 8/5% BF, but I suppose that is to be expected seeing as I have only been taking the product for 2 days.
    Now for the workout: THe mental clarity/focus from this product is amazing. You do NOT get the energy kick in the ass as you would from the E/C stack, but you do get a smoother kick of energy that lasts longer, with no crash afterwards. I went through 4 sets of leg press @ 7 45s on each side and 4 sets of squats @ 225 with no real problem....sure they hurt, but I was motivated to finish. During the workout, I was "in the zone". I found myself much more SOCIAL, laughing for no apparent reason when convsating w/ others, and just being more extroverted overall....I can't wait to try this stuff before hitting the clubs! Has anyone had any experience mixing this stuff w/ alcohol? I would think that this would be greatly superior to the red bull/vodka combination that I love so much and hell of a lot cheaper!
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    Mixing it with alcohol would be interesting to say the least. I definitely would not try it. AMP + Red Bull might be sweet though. Let us know how it goes if you try mixing it with alcohol.
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    I would def keep alcohol consumption to a minimum so I could "judge" the effects persay, but I if I do do this little experiment, it will probably include either 1 AMP stand alone or 1 AMP and 1 HEAT.
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    day 3

    Did calves and biceps today....mood was down all day, but I popped 2 HEAT and one AMP pre-workout and all of a suden I felt better...I don't if it was from the fact I was lifting or the AMP/HEAT stack, but something was going right upstairs. On a side note, a big benefit of this stack is that you are only taking 1 AMP at a time, as opposed to 2-4 AMP like the directions say, so your "euphoric"/ good time experience with AMP will last much longer than if you were taking AMP as a stand alone, with perhaps an even better energy response as a result of the whole HEAT component....Nice. This stack shows potential for actually saving you money and getting more out of your AMP over the long run....Double Nice.
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    Mixing it with alcohol would be interesting to say the least. I definitely would not try it. AMP + Red Bull might be sweet though. Let us know how it goes if you try mixing it with alcohol.
    It goes quite well with alcohol as far as being fun and keeping you in party spirits.
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    Did calves and biceps today....mood was down all day, but I popped 2 HEAT and one AMP pre-workout and all of a suden I felt better...I don't if it was from the fact I was lifting or the AMP/HEAT stack, but something was going right upstairs. On a side note, a big benefit of this stack is that you are only taking 1 AMP at a time, as opposed to 2-4 AMP like the directions say, so your "euphoric"/ good time experience with AMP will last much longer than if you were taking AMP as a stand alone, with perhaps an even better energy response as a result of the whole HEAT component....Nice. This stack shows potential for actually saving you money and getting more out of your AMP over the long run....Double Nice.
    This is why I beseech people to not start upping the dosages with this combo.

    It is never going to be quite as good as the first time, even if you start upping the dosages.

    And, keeping the AMP dosing nice and moderate seems to be the key to keeping it being so good with continued usage. And, HEAT potentiating it so well does just that (if you refrain from chasing a buzz with higher dosing)
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    Triceps tonight...took 1 AMP and 2 HEAT....it will be interesting to see if it keeps me up @ night like the E/C stack,
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    Day 4

    I apologize for the week delay in my log. For the past week, I have been very sick and have only been able to make my way to the gym about 2-3 times. Last Thursday, I did the AMP/HEAT stack 30 minutes prior to drinking, and it was a helluva time. I felt very euphoric for the whole night. Highly sociable but chilled out and happy at the same time. It is like drinking a vodka red bull, but w/o the over-excitability. Gym wise, when I did get my ass over there, the AMP/HEAT stack has been doing its job as well. I banged out both biceps and triceps on different night, and was able to bang through the workout even though I was sick, w/ a good amount of DOMS the day after. We all know that we are sick, we are not very motivated to work out, but the AMP/HEAT stack helped me w/ that. BF and weight wise, I am still hovering around the same digits, but I feel fuller and more tight prolly due to the fact that I ate, slept, and hydrated very well in order to compensate for the fact that I was not hitting the gym as much as I should have been. Later.
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    chest tonight

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    Review

    What more can I say about this stimulant stack except that it is great, and that it works. The synergy which Loki speaks of in his article is certainly real, and anyone who has taken HEAT and/or AMP separately can attest to this statement. I for one felt that by taking less AMP, I developed a tolerance on a much slower/steadier rate, which allowed me to take AMP more often and still experience its euphoric/stim effects w/o worrying about my body getting used to it. Perhaps once a day would be my recommendation, not 2-3 times per day as I took them. Mixing AMP/HEAT w/ alcohol is certainly a good time as well (think red bull/vodka but better) and will have u in a social mood for an extended period of time (more synergy?)...Overall I would rate this stack a 4 out of 5 (4 for the price of the combined products 50-60 dollars), and would again like to thank Avant Labs for allowing me to be a tester for these wonderful products. Feel free to PM me w/ any specific questions/comments/insights or put them on this post.


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