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    Bulking/Cutting problems solved. Your answer is here!

    Cutter, Bulker, Cutting, Bulking-WHAT A CROCK OF BULL****

    -Dante-


    If i never hear these words again in my life it will be too soon. I cringe everytime i hear someone say "im coming off a bulker and now im doing a cutter"..What the hell is that?..that is the most idiotic concept ever! So what your doing is taking 2 steps forward for 4 months and then 1.5 steps backward for 4 months and repeating over and over? Talk about a waste of valuable time! Half your freaking year is gone to hell because your cutting for half of it and gaining no muscle. How bout a novel concept for you? How bout getting dramatically larger over time with huge food (protein) intake and super heavy training but adhering to carb cuttoffs and doing cardio (for increasing hunger and keeping bodyfat at bay reasons) so that you stay lean!!!!!!!!!! Gee whiz, might that be a better way?!

    Bulker: An Excuse to become a fat **** for the sake of beleiving your putting on muscle mass to others and yourself (and you probably are but at a 50/50 ratio of muscle to fat--wow thats awesome!)

    Cutter: 3-5 months of wasted muscle building time (trust me youll be building very little muscle mass during this) in the quest of turning yourself back from a fat slob you turned yourself into to someone presentable.

    THINK ABOUT IT!!!! Your 200lbs, eat like a 250lb guy to get freakshow bigger, and train like a rhino with heavy weights to get larger but also do everything in your power (green tea, cardio, carb cuttoffs) to keep at a bodyfat percentage that your proud of or can live with. This is all about turning your body into a muscle building fat burning blast furnace!
    If you do bulking and cutting for the next 2 years and with all those "cutting cycles" adding up to a years time, guess what you just gave up a year of lifting--one year of nonexistant muscle mass accumalation. Thats like lifting for the next 6 years and you only get 3 years of productivity out of it. See the problem is, alot of people try to stay lean year round while also tryng their hardest to put on muscle mass and they do it all wrong.

    They eat like a 190lber trying to get to 250lbs and think that--by some miracle that will get them there. This is all about becomeing a food processing machine here. Take in a surplus (protein/food), create a demand to put on muscle and then taking care of excesses and burning them off (carb cuttoffs/cardio/thermogenisis)----eating and training like a 300lbs offseason behemoth but doing everything else in your power to be that guy walking around at 7-14% bodyfat (whatever floats your boat)....See its not that hard, just think it out....but most of all dont waste your freaking time taking 2 steps forward and 1.5 steps backward....this is about constant forward progress. This is constant bulking and cutting at the same time and you dont forsake one for the other unless your competing for a show.


    You turn yourself into a machine and you keep that machine evolving. Does anyone in this forum actually beleive that if you are 200lbs and doing cardio 3-4x a week at 30-45 minutes a pop but eating 400-500 grams of protein and a ****load of food to get bigger that - YOUR ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO GET BIGGER BECAUSE OF THAT CARDIO? If your not getting bigger then your either not eating enough or your a young guy whose metabolism is so fast that your one of the lucky ones who doesnt have to do cardio. Thats another story I have to write about one of these days--Cardio. Every time I hear a guy tell me...."I just cant eat enough"....I ask him "are you doing cardio?", and he gives me that puzzled look and thinks "why should I do cardio? I have trouble gaining weight and eating enough".....BINGO!!!!!

    What do you think cardio does? You get up in the morning and start your day with some cardio I guarentee youll be starving the rest of the day and be eating like a damn horse. IT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME. Cardio is a two way street--increases hunger and keeps you lean. You have trouble getting bigger? Add cardio first thing in the morning after 30 grams of protein in water and some bcaa's and watch yourself eat the rest of the day! You wont be missing meals, youll be starving. Which leads me to getting off this computer because im starving.I wrote this very fast because im late--so sorry bout that

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    Originally Posted by KMMuscle24
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    What do you think cardio does? You get up in the morning and start your day with some cardio I guarentee youll be starving the rest of the day and be eating like a damn horse. IT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME. Cardio is a two way street--increases hunger and keeps you lean.

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    good advice, thxs for the info bud....i never thought of it that way.

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    I don't agree.
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    Originally Posted by BIGDUBBDEISEL
    I don't agree.
    As with any article or useful info I post you can take it or leave it.
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    Originally Posted by BIGDUBBDEISEL
    I don't agree.

    Same, but he has a good point.

    Look here if you gain significant amounts of fat on a bulk - you're doing it wrong. If you're losing a lot of muscle on a cut - you're doing it wrong. End of story - Bulking you should put on SOME fat but not enough to totally hide your muscular gains. Likewise with cutting it's possible to ADD muscle if you know what your're doing but really, most people's diets I see here just aren't up to scratch.
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    The problem with this is you coudnt really loose any bf.
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    Originally Posted by IGF
    Same, but he has a good point.

    Look here if you gain significant amounts of fat on a bulk - you're doing it wrong. If you're losing a lot of muscle on a cut - you're doing it wrong. End of story - Bulking you should put on SOME fat but not enough to totally hide your muscular gains. Likewise with cutting it's possible to ADD muscle if you know what your're doing but really, most people's diets I see here just aren't up to scratch.
    You can't add muscle on a cutting phase..
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    Originally Posted by BIGDUBBDEISEL
    You can't add muscle on a cutting phase..

    yes you can?
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    Originally Posted by BIGDUBBDEISEL
    The problem with this is you coudnt really loose any bf.
    You sound so sure of yourself... Have YOU ever tried it?, My point.


    btw; One man's trash is another man's treasure.
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    Originally Posted by KMMuscle24
    You sound so sure of yourself... Have YOU ever tried it?, My point.


    btw; One man's trash is another man's treasure.
    Yes, Infact i have tried this, Its bassically called a clean bulk, But you dont stop bulking, Didint work, But mabe it is just my body type.
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    Originally Posted by BIGDUBBDEISEL
    Yes, Infact i have tried this, Its bassically called a clean bulk, But you dont stop bulking, Didint work, But mabe it is just my body type.
    lol cleandirtycleanclean bulk.... inside joke
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    Anyway, Good post, But i doubt this will work if you ever want to be cut.
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    This is like some stuff I have heard before I think it might work for some people but not for everyone. It is just like every thing else nothing works for every one.
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    KM, im not understanding.....i thought RUNNING burned more MUSCLE than walking does. all these people saying when ur cutting, do cardio....run for a bit. Why not WALK??? doesnt RUNNING burn off muscle....walking doesnt burn off much muscle, correct??
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    KM, im not understanding.....i thought RUNNING burned more MUSCLE than walking does. all these people saying when ur cutting, do cardio....run for a bit. Why not WALK??? doesnt RUNNING burn off muscle....walking doesnt burn off much muscle, correct??
    Everyone's looking to me now lol... Running also burns more calories bro, all these people would consist of "bb.com experts"? If so don't trust what they say, do your own reasearch before you believe half the idoits on here
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    i love doggcrapp. dante knows a lot.

    Im still gonna diet for around 8 weeks after im done bulkign though. But once im lean im gonna strick with the carb cutoffs and cardio.
    I have seen a lot and I mean a lot of people in the gym and on these internet forums that are a buck 65 or two and change, shouting that you don’t have to lift heavy to get big
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    Indeed, the man is a genious..
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    so 35 minutes of running burns more calories than 35 minutes of walking.....understandable. but 35 minutes of running burns off more muscle than 35 minutes of walking......???
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    Originally Posted by KMMuscle24
    Congrats, you've been corrupted by bb.com idoits ... PM me bro for some quality info
    What makes you such a expert?
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    Originally Posted by BIGDUBBDEISEL
    What makes you such a expert?
    I didn't say I was...
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    or you could just try a clean bulk instead of a dirty one. seriously cutting/bulking cycles work if you do them right. if you become fat during a bulk, you're not doing it right. When you bulk you still need to eat clean, but eat a lot. This is actually very hard to do, because if you do it right you're going to feel like never eating again, but it is a much better way to increase mass than your article.
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    Originally Posted by tnel00
    or you could just try a clean bulk instead of a dirty one. seriously cutting/bulking cycles work if you do them right. if you become fat during a bulk, you're not doing it right. When you bulk you still need to eat clean, but eat a lot. This is actually very hard to do, because if you do it right you're going to feel like never eating again, but it is a much better way to increase mass than your article.
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    How bout getting dramatically larger over time with huge food (protein) intake and super heavy training but adhering to carb cuttoffs and doing cardio (for increasing hunger and keeping bodyfat at bay reasons) ""so that you stay lean!!!!!!!!!!""

    I completely agree that it's possible to stay lean during a bulk if you do it right, but if you are not cut already then this will not work properly, because i doubt you'll be loosing any bodyfat
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    ^^^ Exactly man
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    hey whats the best type of cardio to do to lose weight?
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    Theres no 'best' form of cardio
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    i say if you're not going into a show, don't do a cutting phase. just try to keep around 10% bodyfat and you WILL grow. trust me. i have and i know alot of people who have too. its not healthy to drop and gain wieght all the time. your body can't handle it. im sure you could find articles on the affects of "yo yo dieting" and such. and don't say its not the same as bulking and cutting because it is. you're still droping wieght, then gaining it back.never go over 10-15%. bodybuilder or not, its not healthy to go higher. you might even get problems with your body or develope heart problems or diebetes. YOU CAN BULK WITHOUT GETTING FAT! people have to learn this. and again, dont go to low with bodyfat unless your in a contest because that isnt healthy either.
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    hey. sorry im not very familiar with all the bodybuilding terms. but, when you say carb cut offs, u mean like some days you dont take in as many carbs as you normally do, or just not eat a lot? For example i should eat alot on my weight lifting days, but on my off days(days i dont lift) i should not as much(carb cutoffs)? So, this will keep my bodyfat the same, maybe even lower it, while i gain muscle? Also, what rep ranges should i use?
    Also, have you experienced this? (getting bigger while keeping bodyfat low?)

    ONE MORE THING! lol, how many protein should i be eating if i weigh 145 pounds?
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    Carb cutoffs are just not eating carbs after a certain time of day.
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