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    Glycerol Monostearate the truth!

    This is my first post and as such some of you guys might be skeptical. But new to this board does not necessarily mean being a newbie.

    Let me explain. I am doing graduate work at MIT as a food technologist. I am an avid lifter and am very well versed in sports nutrition and training. I frequent the different boards every so often but generally have little time to post or respond.

    I have been seeing some people promote glycerol monostearate as some remarkable new cell volumizer or powdered glycerol. Let me emphatically and I mean emphatically state that this is not true. Actually, this type of thing angers me greatly as it is about the furtherst from the truth that you can get. I work with this stuff everyday and know what I am talking about.

    Let me give you the lowdown on glycerol monostearate (GMS).

    GMS is what is known as a monoglyceride. You might recognize this because a great deal of foods on the market contain mono- and di-glycerides. In fact, GMS is the main mono glyceride used in food. It is nothing special and you probably consume a considerable quantity of it every day.

    Let me also state that GMS is not partly a fat and partly a carb. It is a fat! Point blank! It is labeled as a fat and the FDA considers it to be a fat. In fact it is considered a saturated fat and not something I would consider purposely consuming for the heck of it.

    Let me also state that GMS is NOT a powdered form of glycerol. Whoever said this is again 100% wrong. GMS is a fat. All fats have a glycerol backbone with one, two or three fatty acids attached. This is glycerol with one stearic acid fatty acid attached. From these people's logic, it would be like consuming olive oil and calling it a form of liquid glycerol. Nonsense.

    Listen to me people. I know what I am talking about here. This stuff will do you no good except make you fat! That is the point blank truth. It does nothing more than consuming lard since lard is mainly stearic acid and glycerol. Truly this is it. Ask these people to supply one study showing it does anything. The studies do not exist. I am passionate about this yes because I know I am right and I know what I am talking about. This is nonsense and it is wrong to tell people things that aren't true.

    Do yourself a favor and stay away from this stuff. You will save money and look better (unless you want to get fat!).
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    Ah crap here we go again, anti-supplement thread!
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    This is my first post and as such some of you guys might be skeptical. But new to this board does not necessarily mean being a newbie.

    Let me explain. I am doing graduate work at MIT as a food technologist. I am an avid lifter and am very well versed in sports nutrition and training. I frequent the different boards every so often but generally have little time to post or respond.

    I have been seeing some people promote glycerol monostearate as some remarkable new cell volumizer or powdered glycerol. Let me emphatically and I mean emphatically state that this is not true. Actually, this type of thing angers me greatly as it is about the furtherst from the truth that you can get. I work with this stuff everyday and know what I am talking about.

    Let me give you the lowdown on glycerol monostearate (GMS).

    GMS is what is known as a monoglyceride. You might recognize this because a great deal of foods on the market contain mono- and di-glycerides. In fact, GMS is the main mono glyceride used in food. It is nothing special and you probably consume a considerable quantity of it every day.

    Let me also state that GMS is not partly a fat and partly a carb. It is a fat! Point blank! It is labeled as a fat and the FDA considers it to be a fat. In fact it is considered a saturated fat and not something I would consider purposely consuming for the heck of it.

    Let me also state that GMS is NOT a powdered form of glycerol. Whoever said this is again 100% wrong. GMS is a fat. All fats have a glycerol backbone with one, two or three fatty acids attached. This is glycerol with one stearic acid fatty acid attached. From these people's logic, it would be like consuming olive oil and calling it a form of liquid glycerol. Nonsense.

    Listen to me people. I know what I am talking about here. This stuff will do you no good except make you fat! That is the point blank truth. It does nothing more than consuming lard since lard is mainly stearic acid and glycerol. Truly this is it. Ask these people to supply one study showing it does anything. The studies do not exist. I am passionate about this yes because I know I am right and I know what I am talking about. This is nonsense and it is wrong to tell people things that aren't true.

    Do yourself a favor and stay away from this stuff. You will save money and look better (unless you want to get fat!).

    MIT you say, hmmm.............
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    Antisupplement? What is your problem? I love supplements. Some are good and some are bad. If you want to discuss the science then please do so. If not then cut the flames.
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    No studies?! Guess he hasn't seen any of Pure's posts.
    Do you think that your better than me?
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    Originally Posted by dtrain13
    MIT you say, hmmm.............

    Would you like to discuss this based on science instead of acting like a child?
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    Originally Posted by exfatman
    No studies?! Guess he hasn't seen any of Pure's posts.

    Don't know anything about Pure or his posts but if he wants to discuss the science of this then I welcome him. Like I said, I work with this stuff everyday. It is a fat. It is a saturated fat. It will not volumize your muscles. Maybe your fat but not your muscles!
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    Obviously this guy is a Controlled Labs hater. I'm sure he's a regular poster with another name.
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    I am willing to hear what you have to say. Could you please post some studies to back it up?
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    Don't know anything about Pure or his posts but if he wants to discuss the science of this then I welcome him. Like I said, I work with this stuff everyday. It is a fat. It is a saturated fat. It will not volumize your muscles. Maybe your fat but not your muscles!
    Seach for glycerol and GMS. It is obvious to me you haven't so do yourself a avor and search befor making anymore stupid posts.
    Do you think that your better than me?
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    Well, I was negative repped by fatman. This is nonsense. I will not go away because I am passionate about this. Why would you neg rep me. I bring good and true information that I know to this board and you neg rep me. Whatever. Someone should positive rep me for taking my time to bring the truth on this stuff.
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    Would you like to discuss this based on science instead of acting like a child?
    I made ZERO insults and yet you insult me and then have the audacity to claim I am "acting like a child". Repped.
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    Originally Posted by exfatman
    Seach for glycerol and GMS. It is obvious to me you haven't so do yourself a avor and search befor making anymore stupid posts.

    I don't need to search this board. I know the truth. YOu obviously do not.
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    I don't need to search this board. I know the truth. YOu obviously do not.
    You can't handle the truth!
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    Originally Posted by dtrain13
    I made ZERO insults and yet you insult me and then have the audacity to claim I am "acting like a child". Repped.

    Yep, you insulted me. What do you think your comment was. LIke I was lying about MIT?
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    heck.. i'll listen to what you have to say.. You might have some merit..

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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    Well, I was negative repped by fatman. This is nonsense. I will not go away because I am passionate about this. Why would you neg rep me. I bring good and true information that I know to this board and you neg rep me. Whatever. Someone should positive rep me for taking my time to bring the truth on this stuff.
    Actions speak lowder than words. Post some evidence to support your claims or go away.
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    Who will discuss the science instead of just insulting and getting hurt.
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    Let's keep the flaming to a minimum and let this guy converse with CL. He brings up a point and it is on them to defend it.

    I have no opinion of GMS so it would be interesting to see both sides.
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    Yep, you insulted me. What do you think your comment was. LIke I was lying about MIT?
    For all I know, YES your are. You come onto a BB message board and start throwing stones about why not to take GMS and at the same time claim to be an MIT student. You my friend have the burden of proof, not I.
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    Originally Posted by dtrain13
    Actions speak lowder than words. Post some evidence to support your claims or STFU.
    Support? Anybody here can go to google and look this up. It is there for EVERYONE to see. Give me a break.

    Anyway, I have a class to teach. Will check in later.
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    Thumbs up haha....

    I thought he said he was going to M1T at first..LOL.

    Yea, I'd like to hear more about your studies on this, unless this is hormonman making a comeback. It is always right to challenge supplement companies, unless you want a communist BB society that eats what the media hypes.
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    I don't need to search this board. I know the truth. YOu obviously do not.

    Thanks to provide us THE TRUTH !

    LOL !!
    I do not work for any supplement company, I am on bb.com to share feedback on supplements and to try to help people with the little knowledge I have. **Please note this**
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    Well, I was negative repped by fatman. This is nonsense. I will not go away because I am passionate about this. Why would you neg rep me. I bring good and true information that I know to this board and you neg rep me. Whatever. Someone should positive rep me for taking my time to bring the truth on this stuff.
    If you saw that I negged you, you also saw what my comment was. in case you didn't it was one word...JERK.

    BTW, it seems you were negged by a few others also so as I said....JERK.
    Do you think that your better than me?
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    I don't need to search this board. I know the truth. YOu obviously do not.
    Don't need to search? You said there were no studies and you are stupid enough not to search for them. Who's being an ass.hole now jerkoff?
    Do you think that your better than me?
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    Originally Posted by Scivation
    Let's keep the flaming to a minimum and let this guy converse with CL. He brings up a point and it is on them to defend it.

    I have no opinion of GMS so it would be interesting to see both sides.
    Not only CL but *** has a bulk GMS.
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    This is my first post and as such some of you guys might be skeptical. But new to this board does not necessarily mean being a newbie.

    Let me explain. I am doing graduate work at MIT as a food technologist. I am an avid lifter and am very well versed in sports nutrition and training. I frequent the different boards every so often but generally have little time to post or respond.

    I have been seeing some people promote glycerol monostearate as some remarkable new cell volumizer or powdered glycerol. Let me emphatically and I mean emphatically state that this is not true. Actually, this type of thing angers me greatly as it is about the furtherst from the truth that you can get. I work with this stuff everyday and know what I am talking about.

    Let me give you the lowdown on glycerol monostearate (GMS).

    GMS is what is known as a monoglyceride. You might recognize this because a great deal of foods on the market contain mono- and di-glycerides. In fact, GMS is the main mono glyceride used in food. It is nothing special and you probably consume a considerable quantity of it every day.

    Let me also state that GMS is not partly a fat and partly a carb. It is a fat! Point blank! It is labeled as a fat and the FDA considers it to be a fat. In fact it is considered a saturated fat and not something I would consider purposely consuming for the heck of it.

    Let me also state that GMS is NOT a powdered form of glycerol. Whoever said this is again 100% wrong. GMS is a fat. All fats have a glycerol backbone with one, two or three fatty acids attached. This is glycerol with one stearic acid fatty acid attached. From these people's logic, it would be like consuming olive oil and calling it a form of liquid glycerol. Nonsense.

    Listen to me people. I know what I am talking about here. This stuff will do you no good except make you fat! That is the point blank truth. It does nothing more than consuming lard since lard is mainly stearic acid and glycerol. Truly this is it. Ask these people to supply one study showing it does anything. The studies do not exist. I am passionate about this yes because I know I am right and I know what I am talking about. This is nonsense and it is wrong to tell people things that aren't true.

    Do yourself a favor and stay away from this stuff. You will save money and look better (unless you want to get fat!).
    we'll see how well it works. I have been chosen as a tester for Controlled Labs new Glycerol product. I'm also cutting right now, so we'll see how fat I get too (or how much it slows down my fat loss).

    So if what you say is true, it will be proven in my log here in the coming weeks. It what your saying is not true, that will be plain to see by my log as well.

    So, I'll just have to wait and see for myself if it works for me.

    Also, its a fat, so what? What about sesamin? What about EFA's? They are fats, and yet, they are used for fat loss.

    Even if it is a fat, it can still be beneficial for a multitude of healthy effects.

    Like I said, I'll just wait and see how it works for me.
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    Originally Posted by rockingym
    Would you like to discuss this based on science instead of acting like a child?
    If you are going to come here and post this opinion, please back it up with your science. There are many users of GM (I am one of them) who have seen cell volumization benefits. DO NOT come to this board making these claims, fail to post science of your own and demand to see other science. Also do NOT disrespect and trash respected board members here. I'll hold off for now, but if the attitude doesn't go, I will finilize your rep points and send you to hell.
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    Originally Posted by Punch1546
    I thought he said he was going to M1T at first..LOL.

    Yea, I'd like to hear more about your studies on this, unless this is hormonman making a comeback. It is always right to challenge supplement companies, unless you want a communist BB society that eats what the media hypes.
    Yes...this is an IP that Fitnessman (our whormoan savior) should check.
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