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    How much Melatonin (mg) = sleep?

    anyone? (if you break the (serious) rule, you may cause overdose. thats about as cool as SUPER-AIDS... totally not cool.)"
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    Depends. I take 3-6mg.
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    Ummm, don't do what I do... But I take 3x the req dose. Only thing that knocks me out. My dumb doctors don't want to put me on good sleeping aids, they put me on **** that just has the sideeffect of drowziness, and what ever the hell the pill is actually meant for... For all I know could be taking semen capsules.
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    Yeah about 3mg. Temporary intervention for jet lag or out of kilter circadian rhythmn. Any more than two weeks daily use may cause dependency. Tryptophan isolate at 1 g also eases one into sleep.
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    I actually did my own research, and im not sure if you can actually overdose on it.
    Honestly, I had no success with 3 mg, (one pill of what I have) and thats recommended. I take 3 or 4 pills now before sleep, so thats 9 to 12 mg.
    Best sleep ive ever gotten, only problem is I sleep for a long time if I dont get woken up by something (like an alarm). Usually my sleep is interrupted, but on this its nice and consistant.
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    3mg is about standard, but you can take up to 10mg, and in some cases people have taken >50mg's as recommended by doctors.

    Better solutions if your sleep problems are not the result of a messed up schedule or jet lag would be a valerian/5-htp combo.


    EDIT: As stated above, it's not a good idea to take for more than 1-2 weeks consistently.
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    I take 3-6 only when needed. You get used to it very quickly.
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    Anyone know of any good prescribed sleeping pills? My coverage doesn't cover the over the counter ones but I get prescribed for like free hehe
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    Originally Posted by spaceclown View Post
    I take 3-6 only when needed. You get used to it very quickly.
    This is very true. I take 3mgs the night before a big test or something important like that where I need a guaranteed full nights rest, but I normally get a solid 7 1/2 hours a night no problem.
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    Originally Posted by Blitz n destroy View Post
    3mg is about standard, but you can take up to 10mg, and in some cases people have taken >50mg's as recommended by doctors.

    Better solutions if your sleep problems are not the result of a messed up schedule or jet lag would be a valerian/5-htp combo.
    Just because some people do it doesn't mean its right. Valerian or 5-htp is NOT a better solution.

    For most people, 3mg is TOO MUCH, and can negatively shift sleep phases forward instead of back, and also can have negative effects on hormones related to fertility, and likely others not yet elucidated. Bioavailability of oral melatonin varies a lot so start at a low dose. Normal secretion is about a couple hundred micrograms. Bioavailability in females is also much higher than for males.

    You should be trying to supplement natural release, not replace it entirely.
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    Originally Posted by Highliter View Post
    I actually did my own research, and im not sure if you can actually overdose on it.
    Honestly, I had no success with 3 mg, (one pill of what I have) and thats recommended. I take 3 or 4 pills now before sleep, so thats 9 to 12 mg.
    Best sleep ive ever gotten, only problem is I sleep for a long time if I dont get woken up by something (like an alarm). Usually my sleep is interrupted, but on this its nice and consistant.
    Wrong wrong wrong.
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    Originally Posted by fitnecise View Post
    Just because some people do it doesn't mean its right. Valerian or 5-htp is NOT a better solution.

    For most people, 3mg is TOO MUCH, and can negatively shift sleep phases forward instead of back, and also can have negative effects on hormones related to fertility, and likely others not yet elucidated. Bioavailability of oral melatonin varies a lot so start at a low dose. Normal secretion is about a couple hundred micrograms. Bioavailability in females is also much higher than for males.

    You should be trying to supplement natural release, not replace it entirely.
    Thanks for the information. What you recommend as a better solution then?
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    Originally Posted by Forge3 View Post
    Yeah about 3mg. Temporary intervention for jet lag or out of kilter circadian rhythmn. Any more than two weeks daily use may cause dependency. Tryptophan isolate at 1 g also eases one into sleep.
    Where do you get this information?
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    Originally Posted by Blitz n destroy View Post
    Thanks for the information. What you recommend as a better solution then?
    I recommend melatonin just a low dose (no more than a milligram, just cut the pill into pieces if you have 3mg). Also avoid artificial light as much as possible and television/computer late at night (unless you accept that it will be harder to get to sleep).

    Less is more with melatonin.
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    Originally Posted by fitnecise View Post
    I recommend melatonin just a low dose (no more than a milligram, just cut the pill into pieces if you have 3mg). Also avoid artificial light as much as possible and television/computer late at night (unless you accept that it will be harder to get to sleep).

    Less is more with melatonin.
    Any problem with continued use?
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    Originally Posted by Blitz n destroy View Post
    Any problem with continued use?
    Probably more benefits than risks as long as you stay low dose. Might be wise to wait for more research though and taking time off once in awhile.
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    Little late BUT

    I've been taking Melatonin and my findings are this.

    1mg does hardly anything to me
    3mg does hardly aything to me
    2mg is perfect

    Haven't tried any other amounts, and not sure if the 3-4 times I took 3mg it was a fluke or not, but I consistently take 2mg with good success. I had some great sleep and dreams last night after being away from melatonin for a few weeks (more testing). It definitely works, and in this case - more is not better.

    Edit: fixed me mess-up
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    Originally Posted by derickonfire View Post
    Little late BUT

    I've been taking Melatonin and my findings are this.

    1g does hardly anything to me
    3g does hardly aything to me
    2g is perfect

    Haven't tried any other amounts, and not sure if the 3-4 times I took 3g it was a fluke or not, but I consistently take 2g with good success. I had some great sleep and dreams last night after being away from melatonin for a few weeks (more testing). It definitely works, and in this case - more is not better.
    You mean 1mg/2mg/3mg yes?
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    i take 1/2 of a 3mg tab, knocks me right out
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    Originally Posted by ZDub212 View Post
    You mean 1mg/2mg/3mg yes?
    Yessir!

    Nice catch, my bad..
    I prefer informalities.
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    3mg for me.... more is not always better, especially with this stuff.

    For some people 1-2mg can work better than 3mg or more.
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    Ive heard of 50mg doses. christ knows what that does....

    An hour before I want to go to bed I usually take 3-6mg (3mg caps) with some valerian and a skunk cone every night for a week or so and I can shift my circadian rhythm well doing this

    I only use it after holidays or a long break when Ive got used to going to bed at 3am and need to start going at 11pm again.
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    Originally Posted by Diab0lic View Post
    Ive heard of 50mg doses. christ knows what that does....
    Birth control? =P
    I prefer informalities.
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    Melatonin shouldn't be an acute sleep inducing substance. You cannot instantly resynchronize your clocks, it takes at least a few days.
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    12 mg works for me
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