How many reps for deadlifting?

[YuMadThough]

I do 3sets of 183lbs x 8 for mass but im wondering if it would be better training 8,6,4

Once the first set is finished im wasted and it takes me a good 3 minutes to recover so is doing another 8 reps and then another 8 reps just gonna lead to crappy form and back injury.

Should i stick with doing 3 sets of 8 or switch to 3 sets of 8,6,4 ?

[aqua-beowulf]

I do 3sets of 183lbs x 8 for mass but im wondering if it would be better training 8,6,4

Once the first set is finished im wasted and it takes me a good 3 minutes to recover so is doing another 8 reps and then another 8 reps just gonna lead to crappy form and back injury.

Should i stick with doing 3 sets of 8 or switch to 3 sets of 8,6,4 ?

5x5... strength and mass, best of both worlds

[LAWofNJ]

I do everything, just pyramid up to near- max. 225 x 8 315 x 6 etc.. up to max. Havent deadlifted 2 back workouts in a row though, cuz i wanna rest my left middle finger, that takes an absolute vicious beating when i grip heavy.. ( It came from the last football game ever )...

[bigpump23]

never over 6

[J.L.C.]

never over 6

Any justification for that?

[YuMadThough]

I got a strength and a mass program going on want to deadlift for size rather then strength at the moment.

So i should still go with 8,6,4 or something similer rather then 3 sets of 8-10?

[aqua-beowulf]

I got a strength and a mass program going on want to deadlift for size rather then strength at the moment.

So i should still go with 8,6,4 or something similer rather then 3 sets of 8-10?

I stand by my original reply.

[YuMadThough]

I stand by my original reply.

So still stay with 5x5 on just deadlifts on a mass phase?.......but then what will i do when i switch over to my strength phase the reps sets n weight will be the same.

[aqua-beowulf]

So still stay with 5x5 on just deadlifts on a mass phase?.......but then what will i do when i switch over to my strength phase the reps sets n weight will be the same.

You do know that mass is mostly related to your diet, don't you?

Just do a 5x5 and finish off with a couple of 6-8 rep sets and you've got all bases covered.

[bigpump23]

Any justification for that?

with a movement like the deadlift by extending the set with higher repititions your going to tire your smaller muscles, therefore developing bad form and other compensatory patterns

[YuMadThough]

You do know that mass is mostly related to your diet, don't you?

Just do a 5x5 and finish off with a couple of 6-8 rep sets and you've got all bases covered.

yup but if i was to do a 5x5 routine it means im gonna have to take a 3-5 minute break between sets which is too long as i got to do DB and chins for back and then on to triceps.

but ill keep it in mind and do it when im on a strength phase.....

so ill think ill ditch the 3 sets of 8 @ 85% 1rm

ill go for 3 sets of 8reps @85% 6reps @90% 4reps @95%

8,6,4

That seem ok?

[Flex500]

I go with good old 10,8,6,4,2 for deadlifts

[AangleN]

I go with good old 10,8,6,4,2 for deadlifts

yeah, good approach.

i generally don't do quite as many, but then again, i don't count warm up sets of 10 or 12.

whoever said 5x5 has a good general approach. i think what i quoted above might be good just for variety sake, but both will work, especially if you're just starting out.

[Gibblets]

3 sets, 4-6 reps. Works wonders for me.

[AangleN]

you don't need to do as many reps with deadlifts. they use SO much energy, you'll be shot pretty quick.

actually, i usually don't think about how many i'm doing, just down and up til i'm shot.

[YuMadThough]

Urghhhh man all these late nights going to bed at like 4 in the morning is catching up with me.....

Started deadlift 2 x 8 of 40kg to warm up.

Working sets...

91kg x 8
91kg x 8
96kg x 6

Then i had a rest before doing db rows layed on my bed and nealy fell asleep has absolutely no energy at all so i thought sod it, skipped the rest of my workout and now going to bed. Need to get into a decent sleep pattern otherwise im not gonna be liftin sht

Thnx for repling people.

[detras22]

with a movement like the deadlift by extending the set with higher repititions your going to tire your smaller muscles, therefore developing bad form and other compensatory patterns

Where do you people come up with this stuff?

[Quantum_Man]

Where do you people come up with this stuff?

It is true that the longer your set in a deadlift, the worse your form gets, which is very dangerous obviously.

[nads786]

It is true that the longer your set in a deadlift, the worse your form gets, which is very dangerous obviously.

i really do think this is true, i use to do 5x5 for the same weight for deadlifts and it got to be too much, so i pyramid up to my max weight on the last 5set, imo

[J.L.C.]

with a movement like the deadlift by extending the set with higher repititions your going to tire your smaller muscles, therefore developing bad form and other compensatory patterns

By not ego lifting.....wouldn't this help to develop smaller muscles and give them the capacity to keep up.....basically bringing up the weak links in the chain?

That what it does for me.

[A-rod]

I go for heavy singles , over 90 % of my max ,it surely buids lower back mass for me !

Too many reps will lead to breakdown in the form dept .

[$AJ]

keep it lower - around 4-6.......higher reps on deadlifting lead to sloppier form which leads ot injuries.

[Doenitz79]

You guys heard of the 20 rep DL before? (Just like the 20 rep squat)

[gymratluke]

5x5... strength and mass, best of both worlds

Good call, I dont think I shins can take anymore than 25 reps. So here is my question, does EVERYONE that deadlifts have just nasty bruises, cuts, stratches, scars, missing hair, or is just me? I've only been doing Deads for about 6 weeks now, and each week as I get heavier and heavier, my shins are getting worse. I have about an 8 inch scuff all the way up to my knee cap and thats just one solid bruise, and then I have scratches right under and right above my knee caps. I hate it, but I love it at the same time.

[J.L.C.]

Good call, I dont think I shins can take anymore than 25 reps. So here is my question, does EVERYONE that deadlifts have just nasty bruises, cuts, stratches, scars, missing hair, or is just me? I've only been doing Deads for about 6 weeks now, and each week as I get heavier and heavier, my shins are getting worse. I have about an 8 inch scuff all the way up to my knee cap and thats just one solid bruise, and then I have scratches right under and right above my knee caps. I hate it, but I love it at the same time.

If you're dragging it up your shins, you have to go "around" your knees instead of over and past them.....and thus, really limiting your pull.

Try setting up with your shoulders behind the bar. I started pulling a lot more weight when i stopped killing my shins.

Here's a great description of the deadlift:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/sh...&postcount=827

[gymratluke]

If you're dragging it up your shins, you have to go "around" your knees instead of over and past them.....and thus, really limiting your pull.

Try setting up with your shoulders behind the bar. I started pulling a lot more weight when i stopped killing my shins.

Here's a great description of the deadlift:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...8&postcount=827

I didnt see anything about deads on that page. Are you tall, with lanky arms or somethin, cause no matter how i do it, I cant do it without touching my shins. And my knees dont get in the way, they are almost straight by the time the weight is dragging over them.

[J.L.C.]

Try it now, bad link...sorry about that