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Old 01-11-2008, 04:48 PM   #1
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10 weeks from your next meet. What do you do?

Lets say it's 10 weeks from your next meet. What is the routine you choose? Why do you choose to do what you do? Im looking for opinions from people on what works and what doesn't. Lets hear it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:52 PM   #2
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10 weeks out....I would just start my cycle over and plan on peaking at the meet.....why? Because it works. No need to change anything if it still works.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:54 PM   #3
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10 weeks out....I would just start my cycle over and plan on peaking at the meet.....why? Because it works. No need to change anything if it still works.
Whats your cycle?

Im just trying to get everyones opinion on their pre-contest cycle and I figured 10 weeks would allow most people to complete their full cycle.
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:02 PM   #4
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Whats your cycle?

Im just trying to get everyones opinion on their pre-contest cycle and I figured 10 weeks would allow most people to complete their full cycle.
I ususally run mine for 12 weeks...

work two days on, one off, two on, two off
Bench
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Train the main movement and 3 to 4 assistance movements. Each movement gets its own day. Assistance movements are what ever I fell like doing to support the main lift.
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:03 PM   #5
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I ususally run mine for 12 weeks...

work two days on, one off, two on, two off
Bench
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Speed bench
Squats

Train the main movement and 3 to 4 assistance movements. Each movement gets its own day. Assistance movements are what ever I fell like doing to support the main lift.
So for peaking do you take that final week off totally? Light assistance work? How does your final week go?
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So for peaking do you take that final week off totally? Light assistance work? How does your final week go?
The Saturday or Sunday before a meet I will hit my openers then take the rest of the week off. This is assuming the meet is the following Saturday or Sunday.
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:10 PM   #7
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The Saturday or Sunday before a meet I will hit my openers then take the rest of the week off. This is assuming the meet is the following Saturday or Sunday.
Thank you for your advice. Hopefully we can get a few more people in here to see some more opinions on their meet preperations in the weeks prior to the meet.

Ive just been trying out many routines lately and Im unsure of which one to use in my final 10 weeks.

Whats a good nine week routine you have had success with?
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Whats a good nine week routine you have had success with?
I have used the same routine for the past 5 years. Its simple yet effective.
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I have used the same routine for the past 5 years. Its simple yet effective.
How do you mix it up what goes with what day and what number of reps do you usually use?
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How do you mix it up what goes with what day and what number of reps do you usually use?
For the main movement, I start off with 5 to 6 reps for a few sets then work my way up to singles usually until I miss a few. For the assistance work, I keep the reps around 6 for 3 to 4 sets.
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Old 01-11-2008, 05:29 PM   #11
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For the main movement, I start off with 5 to 6 reps for a few sets then work my way up to singles usually until I miss a few. For the assistance work, I keep the reps around 6 for 3 to 4 sets.
Thank you very much for your help. You have been repped to the best of my ability. This is how you train raw or do you train the same equipped and raw?


I still want to hear from other people as to what they do in the 10 weeks prior to their meet.
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I would sit down with a yellow legal pad and make a little chart showing how many weeks I had left to the meet. Then Id start working backwards from there.

10 weeks?

okay, basically the last week doesnt count because its the meet week and its not a training week. So really you have 9 training weeks to play with

If you were doing sheiko type stuff, its usually based on 4 week cycles. So youd probably take a 4 week prep cycle and then a 4 week peaking cycle and youd just add a week to the prep cycle.

The sheiko stuff pretty much follows the standard russian ideas of "3 hard weeks then an easier week" so instead youd have 4 weeks then the easy week as far as your 5 week prep cycle

of course the sheiko "easy" weeks arent that easy, lol. When I did my first sheiko I did 3 weeks as written and then the 4th week I REALLY backed way off for recovery then I went into a short peaking phase


with 10 weeks id probably do this

1-4 sheiko prep...possibly adding a few heavier attempts the last week to see how I feel
5 deload week
6-10 peaking cycle leading up to week 10 which is meet week


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right now I am training for a bench meet on mar 15th....I started training the first week of the year so I had 11 weeks. That gives me two 4 week phases and one 3 week phase

so I am finishing up week 2 of the 3 week phase now and believe it or not I am just doing inclines and floor press, db press, front laterals etc...working on my weak spot for bench which is my front delts.

week 4-7 will be some form of modified sheiko for bench only. Who knows I may even do bench on M,W,F,Sat...or maybe just 3x per week....we'll see. Either way week 7 will be a slight deload

then weeks 8-11 will be some peaking routine which I havent decided on yet.



My thinking is that early on you work on weaknesses and this is when youd use more variety etc. As the meet gets nearer your training gets more specific. Some of the variety starts dropping out and its a lot of quality reps with the bench or big 3 or whatever. Probably the last 2-3 weeks you drop most assistance as you start dropping volume and cranking intensity to peak for the meet.


so basically as the weeks go by, this is the overall pattern

less specific----> more specific
more volume----> less volume
less intensity----> more intensity

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of course there are as many approaches as there are people willing to try them. With, say, 10 weeks to go, you could simply do a 5x5 type workout for 3 weeks and then run a peaking program such as this one http://web.archive.org/web/200604271...reComrade.html

or do 5x5 or whatever for 6 weeks then use this little 3 week peaking phase..the top one on the page http://www.impulseadventure.com/weights/bench-rick.html if I did that one id make the last week of the 5x5 part a pretty easy week so as to start the peaking phase fresh.

remember that peaking is all about max recovery and freshness. its fine to overload and get majorly fatigued etc while in a heavy TRAINING period....but peaking is more about recovering fully and letting all of the bodys resources be used for the SPECIFIC act of your competitive lifts. The peaking workotus start to have the feel of an actual meet


I also dont believe in doing the same lift year round. I believe you get into overuse and pattern overload etc. So lets say I had a "pet" 9 week bench routine. You can bet that I wouldnt be doign a ton of regular benching in the weeks prior to that. Id be doing floor press, decline, dbells, boards, just whatever else I could do to gain or maintain strength without doing actual benches. When I start my bench routine I dont want to ALREADY be burnt out on bench from doign it for the previous 12 weeks or whatever.

Same for squats or deads. If I were going to a some conventional dead program id probably so sumos or somethign else in the weeks before I started the actual dead routine
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:38 PM   #13
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Wow very nice John. Thank you for your input and repped for your help.
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