American teams being 'World Champions'

[M4A1 Widowmaker]

Ae you knowledgable of the fact that you are not World Champions if your the only country that plays the sport, such as American football. In Australia we dont call the the team that wins the Aussie Rules premiership the world champions it just is not right. Same with your basketball teams, you are not world champions it is a club competition, in fact Spain is the world champions in basketball at the moment.

[jkeithc82]

You are not World Champions if your the only country that plays the sport, such as American football. In Australia we dont call the the team that wins the Aussie Rules premiership the world champions it just is not right. Same with your basketball teams, you are not world champions it is a club competition, in fact Spain is the world champions in basketball at the moment.

Yeah but we're the only country that matters so....

[ElMariachi]

You are not World Champions if your the only country that plays the sport, such as American football. In Australia we dont call the the team that wins the Aussie Rules premiership the world champions it just is not right. Same with your basketball teams, you are not world champions it is a club competition, in fact Spain is the world champions in basketball at the moment.

You think that the Spurs couldn't handle Spain? GTFO!

[ElMariachi]

Nothing, they are not world champions of anything. They are the best team in the NFL. Period.

They are the world champions because no other team in the world could beat them. Period. Now if the MLS Soccer champs called themselves "the world champions", that would be something different altogether.

[Cramerica]

They would ahve to beat the CFL, and any other leagues that exist (european, etc.)

The CFL and European leagues?

The reason those guys play in the CFL and other leagues other than the NFL is because they aren't good enough to play in the NFL. Hence, the NFL, like the NBA, is the best there is, the cream of the crop, the top tier.

ok in boxing u ahve to beat the former world champion. In football u ahve to beat the former NFL champion and then u are world champions? Slight difference chief.

Yes, there is no other challenger. Any other challenger is not even on the same level.

[ElMariachi]

The CFL and European leagues?

The reason those guys play in the CFL and other leagues other than the NFL is because they aren't good enough to play in the NFL. Hence, the NFL, like the NBA, is the best there is, the cream of the crop, the top tier.



Yes, there is no other challenger. Any other challenger is not even on the same level.

That is a ridiculous line of logic. That's like saying for the Red Sox to be considered World Champs, they have to go down and play the Des Moines, Iowa First Baptist Renegades, junior softball men's division.

[Cramerica]

That is a ridiculous line of logic. That's like saying for the Red Sox to be considered World Champs, they have to go down and play the Des Moines, Iowa First Baptist Renegades, junior softball men's division.

Exactly.

[kethnaab]

ok in boxing u ahve to beat the former world champion. In football u ahve to beat the former NFL champion and then u are world champions? Slight difference chief.

They would ahve to beat the CFL, and any other leagues that exist (european, etc.)

absolutely retarded.

the people who can't make it in the NFL go elsewhere to other leagues.

by default, the lesser players are in other leagues, the best players go to the NFL because that is where the money is.

[Strongdog]

if u dont think that the NFL champion is the best american football team in the world than your a moron... maybe if other countries actually played the sport than it would be arguable but they dont. so the best team here is therefore best in the world

[VDubb]

When was the last time the USA won a world competition in basketball? Its been quite a while....

If September is "quite a while" then, yes, it's been real long......lol......



James Leads U.S. Squad Past Argentina to Claim Gold

LAS VEGAS, September 2, 2007 (AP) -- LeBron James put a record finish on the Americans' dominance in the desert.

James scored a team-record 31 points as the United States beat Argentina 118-81 on Sunday to win the FIBA Americas championship.

Dwight Howard made all seven of his shots and scored 20 points, and Carmelo Anthony added 16 points for the Americans, who were never challenged, while winning 10 games in 12 days and will head to Beijing next summer as one of the gold medal favorites.

The Americans averaged 116.7 points in the tournament.

The game was largely meaningless, because both teams had already clinched spots in the Beijing field by winning semifinal games Saturday. But the Americans didn't let up, remaining perfect in four Olympic qualifiers, including 7-0 against Argentina.





And here are the current FIBA World Rankings...........

1. USA
2. Argentina
3. Spain
4. Serbia
5. Lithuania

[rampagefc77]

absolutely retarded.

the people who can't make it in the NFL go elsewhere to other leagues.

by default, the lesser players are in other leagues, the best players go to the NFL because that is where the money is.

To be world champions the USSR hockey team (best players in the entire world) couldnt even beat a group of USA college athletes. You can say "nobody can TOUCH them, they are so fcuking good, thats why they are world champions" but until u play the games, how do u kno?

USA is the best in basketball by far.... Why dont we ever win world championships? You gotta play the games. If that is "absolutely retarded" because i have some facts to back up my opinion... then u are a lost cause.

[rampagefc77]

FIBA Americas championship.

O hai... how bout dem WORLD championships?

Last time i check... (ill refer you to the above quote^^^^) thats the AMERICAS. not world. AKA the entire world was not involved. They won a TOURNAMENT, but not the WORLD tournament. Fail miserably.

How about the olympics? Or other WORLD events? long time since ive seen the USA on top.

Thats like the USA in soccer winning the gold cup(which is like the US, mexico/latin countries, and canada, probably similar to this tournament for basketball)... and claiming to be world champions lol. Thats not how it works. Until the entire world is involved, you are not a world champion. No matter how elite u think a league is, until u play the games it doesnt matter.

[Greg1983]

O hai... how bout dem WORLD championships?

Last time i check... (ill refer you to the above quote^^^^) thats the AMERICAS. not world. AKA the entire world was not involved. They won a TOURNAMENT, but not the WORLD tournament. Fail miserably.

How about the olympics? Or other WORLD events? long time since ive seen the USA on top.

Thats like the USA in soccer winning the gold cup(which is like the US, mexico/latin countries, and canada, probably similar to this tournament for basketball)... and claiming to be world champions lol. Thats not how it works. Until the entire world is involved, you are not a world champion. No matter how elite u think a league is, until u play the games it doesnt matter.

The entire world is involved in the NBA. The best players from every country either go there or aren't good enough to get there. It is perfectly fair to call the Spurs the world champions.

[rampagefc77]

The entire world is involved in the NBA. The best players from every country either go there or aren't good enough to get there. It is perfectly fair to call the Spurs the world champions.

until the games are played, it doesnt matter. All the talent in the world means nothing until u win the game.

[Greg1983]

until the games are played, it doesnt matter. All the talent in the world means nothing until u win the game.

You do realize you can say that about any tournament or league ever then. Unless you somehow get 6 billion people to compete in a basketball tournament there will never be world champions by logic.

[rampagefc77]

You do realize you can say that about any tournament or league ever then. Unless you somehow get 6 billion people to compete in a basketball tournament there will never be world champions by logic.

So your logic of... only winning the league in the US, which is one country out of hundreds, makes more sense? To be a world champion, you have to beat AT LEAST one other team from another country. Until then, you win your league, that is all.

[RickRoss]

the NFL players are the best. Last Year the had a national tournament and we won it. Yes we barely beat China but they used there pros and we used kids that couldnt make the NFL. Which means we put our pros out there the other teams would end up getting killed

Wait a minute...hold up. China has a football team???

[B P Spin]

You are not World Champions if your the only country that plays the sport, such as American football. In Australia we dont call the the team that wins the Aussie Rules premiership the world champions it just is not right. Same with your basketball teams, you are not world champions it is a club competition, in fact Spain is the world champions in basketball at the moment.

You were fortunate enough to receive several serious and thoughtful replies to your post. I, however, will
not dignify your jealous rant with a serious response. Instead, I will give you the only response it deserves:

No one in America cares what you think.

[Greg1983]

So your logic of... only winning the league in the US, which is one country out of hundreds, makes more sense? To be a world champion, you have to beat AT LEAST one other team from another country. Until then, you win your league, that is all.

Just because the games happen to take place in the US doesn't mean it doesn't count as international. There are a ton of countries represented in the NBA, the best players from each country.

The only difference between the NBA and the Olympics is that players are divided by teams based onto who writes their contract rather than where they happened to be born.

The Olympics are where the best players from all leagues get together and get divided into teams to play some ball. The NBA is the league where the best players from all countries get together and get divided into teams to play some ball. There is NO difference. Both champions have every right to consider themselves world champions.

[J_Mart2387]

You guys are overlooking the fact that you are not World Champions if your the only country that plays the sport, such as American football. In Australia we dont call the the team that wins the Aussie Rules premiership the world champions it just is not right. Same with your basketball teams, you are not world champions it is a club competition, in fact Spain is the world champions in basketball at the moment.

But srsly, no one can come close in American football or basketball. Everything else is definitely up for debate.

[J_Mart2387]

Yeah but we're the only country that matters so....

I love your posts bro (strong no homo).

[rampagefc77]

You guys are overlooking the fact that you are not World Champions if your the only country that plays the sport, such as American football. In Australia we dont call the the team that wins the Aussie Rules premiership the world champions it just is not right. Same with your basketball teams, you are not world champions it is a club competition, in fact Spain is the world champions in basketball at the moment.

But srsly, no one can come close in American football or basketball. Everything else is definitely up for debate.

minus basketball, as its been proven time and time again lol. Football ill agree with though, mainly because us americans are the only ones who give 2 ****s about football.

[J_Mart2387]

minus basketball, as its been proven time and time again lol. Football ill agree with though, mainly because us americans are the only ones who give 2 ****s about football.

Do you srsly think there are better players in the world than Lebron, Kobe, Dwayne, Dirk, Duncan, Garnett, etc etc etc??? They may lose in the world championships or whatever but with the amount of money they're making do you think they honestly give a **** about whether they win or lose against a team made up of players you never hear of? lol.

[Greg1983]

Do you srsly think there are better players in the world than Lebron, Kobe, Dwayne, Dirk, Duncan, Garnett, etc etc etc??? They may lose in the world championships or whatever but with the amount of money they're making do you think they honestly give a **** about whether they win or lose against a team made up of players you never hear of? lol.

Not American. Other than that I agree completely.

[dontcare]

Do you srsly think there are better players in the world than Lebron, Kobe, Dwayne, Dirk, Duncan, Garnett, etc etc etc??? They may lose in the world championships or whatever but with the amount of money they're making do you think they honestly give a **** about whether they win or lose against a team made up of players you never hear of? lol.

That's what I think most foreigners don't understand about the US basketball teams. In the past decade they've been either college players or whatever pros they could get. Put a team together and wouldn't practice together until just before the tournament started.
I think in this years coming olympics the US will once again dominate in basketball. They finally put a team together with our finest players and have been practicing together for the last year.
We always thought we could be just better than everyone, without working at it, well international play has stepped up. It took a few Olympics of gettin kicked in the balls to realize, the US actually needs to put there best forward to win.

[J_Mart2387]

Not American. Other than that I agree completely.

Sorry bout that (was not aware)

That's what I think most foreigners don't understand about the US basketball teams. In the past decade they've been either college players or whatever pros they could get. Put a team together and wouldn't practice together until just before the tournament started.
I think in this years coming olympics the US will once again dominate in basketball. They finally put a team together with our finest players and have been practicing together for the last year.
We always thought we could be just better than everyone, without working at it, well international play has stepped up. It took a few Olympics of gettin kicked in the balls to realize, the US actually needs to put there best forward to win.

Agreed sir.

[Greg1983]

Here's a hypothetical. Let's say the Knicks became the Mexico City Knicks. Let's make up some more teams. Athens Rockets. Melbourne Mavericks. Athens Lakers. New Dehli Nuggets. You get the idea.

All these teams keep the exact same rosters they have now and the last season goes exactly as it did. Right up to the Shanghai Spurs beating the Copenhagen Cavaliers for the championship. The only difference is a whole lot of jet fuel was burned.

Is it now fair to consider the Spurs the world champions since they beat teams from other countries? Because if not, then the only difference is the fact that, again, the players are representing the logo on their jersey rather than the country they were born in. If the best in the world are gathered in one place, the winners are the world champions. I don't think it shouldn't count just because you're not playing for your country.

[BigDreams21]

Because they're the best in the world at their sport. Spain's basketball team is not the world champs - the USA doesn't even send all of their best players to the world championships.

[soleus]

^^^
What has the olympics got to do with the Spurs?

[J_Mart2387]

Here's a hypothetical. Let's say the Knicks became the Mexico City Knicks. Let's make up some more teams. Athens Rockets. Melbourne Mavericks. Athens Lakers. New Dehli Nuggets. You get the idea.

All these teams keep the exact same rosters they have now and the last season goes exactly as it did. Right up to the Shanghai Spurs beating the Copenhagen Cavaliers for the championship. The only difference is a whole lot of jet fuel was burned.

Is it now fair to consider the Spurs the world champions since they beat teams from other countries? Because if not, then the only difference is the fact that, again, the players are representing the logo on their jersey rather than the country they were born in. If the best in the world are gathered in one place, the winners are the world champions. I don't think it shouldn't count just because you're not playing for your country.

Talk about putting something into perspective lol. Nice post.