Q & A : Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan

[Ironman2005]

Excuse me for being naive and ignorant to this subject. I’m just dumbfounded by this situation. I guess its because I use to work out at Gold’s Venice – and saw these 2 often. It just makes no sense how Kelly could be involved in a situation like this. I just have a few questions that maybe you can answer – to help me get rid of this feeling that im about to puke.

What drug could you possibly be on to where you trip so hard – not only do you plot to murder someone – but also your mate knows about it and doesn’t try and stop you?

How can one think they would get away with this?

Why did Kelley and Craig ever move to Vegas from Venice beach in the 1st place. I thought that was odd to hear a couple years ago when they did.

I know many on here know both – even consider them close friends. You have to be numb from this a swell. Kelley had to be one of the nicest and friendliest people I have ever met. Why why why would she be involved in such a thing. Maybe I am naive – maybe this is who she really is.

The monkey is out of the bag – I know there is more to this than we have been told. Bring it to light so those like me can stop feeling sick I’m not sure we all understand how much of a blow this is to our sport

[Contract Killer]

Craig didn't have to be on any drugs to do this. if you take a look at his recent pics, he's a fu cking TWIG!!

Second of all, they had to move to LV cuz Craig had burned all his bridges in Cali.

[Gibblets]

**** like this just makes bodybuilding look bad. Here's one more strike against bodybuilding, and one more reason why people stereotype bodybuilders to be crazy, low-life, drug-taking criminals.

[DinoT1985]

maybe it wasnt Craig that was the one who commited the murder. might have been a jealous act with the victim taking flirting with Craig to far?

i guess the only way we'll know is by their mouths, if they did do the crime. could have been an accident or something.

[mindraper]

Maybe he had something to hide that would cause him and his wife to go to prison for life and he killed the person before he/she went to the cops or something. I think this goes deeper than most think..

[Ironman2005]

Maybe she was going to tell on Craig and he would go to prison for life ? Am i missing something - he killed someone and he will most likely get life.

And the person who said he burned his bridges in Cali. Moving 1 state over won't fix things - he was still in the same industry.

[mindraper]

Im just giving an example.. I dont know anymore than u guys. There are too many factors that we simply dont know.

But then again maybe he had a better chance of "survival" by setting the car on fire with the body in it. The only reason why craig titus is a suspect in this case is because he or his car was spotted leaving the scene and his car plate was found at the scene. Small mistake and a bad luck for a guy in hurry imo..

[Ironman2005]

was it kellys jag ?

also no i have not seen recent pix of Craig. can you post ( is he not competing anymore ) ? is kelly ?

[mr_moto_civic]

Originally Posted by Contract Killer

Craig didn't have to be on any drugs to do this. if you take a look at his recent pics, he's a fu cking TWIG!!

Second of all, they had to move to LV cuz Craig had burned all his bridges in Cali.

Where are his recent pics?

[Ironman2005]

is it true they both turned themseves in ?

[mr_moto_civic]

Originally Posted by Ironman2005

Excuse me for being naive and ignorant to this subject. I’m just dumbfounded by this situation. I guess its because I use to work out at Gold’s Venice – and saw these 2 often. It just makes no sense how Kelly could be involved in a situation like this. I just have a few questions that maybe you can answer – to help me get rid of this feeling that im about to puke.

What drug could you possibly be on to where you trip so hard – not only do you plot to murder someone – but also your mate knows about it and doesn’t try and stop you?

How can one think they would get away with this?

Why did Kelley and Craig ever move to Vegas from Venice beach in the 1st place. I thought that was odd to hear a couple years ago when they did.

I know many on here know both – even consider them close friends. You have to be numb from this a swell. Kelley had to be one of the nicest and friendliest people I have ever met. Why why why would she be involved in such a thing. Maybe I am naive – maybe this is who she really is.

The monkey is out of the bag – I know there is more to this than we have been told. Bring it to light so those like me can stop feeling sick I’m not sure we all understand how much of a blow this is to our sport

Maybe it's because the cost of living is so much cheaper in Vegas than L.A. I used to see Craig hanging out alone at the Bare Elegance strip club in Hawthorne (by LAX). We talked a few times and he seemed very gracious and cool... almost subdued. He always prefered to sit alone, and even the strippers didn't give him much attention. Craig appeared as wide as he was tall. He kinda bobbled along when he walked.

[Ironman2005]

wow i was trying to find out more about the story on the net and i found this

The Sex Cult of Venice Beach

by Jason Caruso
Preface
It isn't so much for them that I conceal their identities, but rather for their fans. Bodybuilding has always been a sport with a revered pantheon of role models to emulate. I wouldn't want the guilt of knowing that my writings were responsible for a part of that pantheon being forever associated with depravity and perversion.
I've known these men on a very casual basis for several years, yet never suspected the secret lives that they were leading behind the gym and the posing stage. I'll never be able to see so much as a picture of them now without feeling utter, vile revulsion.

Because I couldn't bear the thought that they knew that I've discovered their filthy secret, I opted to write this under an assumed name. To those of you who choose to label me a coward hiding behind a pen name, I must counter that, in this case, the stakes are definitely too high to risk disclosing my identity. It isn't so impossible to speculate that I could also be put in significant danger, as well, should I be identified as the one to break the silence of their clandestine forays into the darkest sins of the flesh.

This is the story of the most disturbing night of this man's life. Be forewarned, all descriptions are quite graphic. If you're easily offended by sexually explicit discussion, you may want to skip this interview altogether.

T: How did this night begin for you?

Secret Source: We'd all just gone to a big show where I knew a few of the competitors, including the winner. Afterward, a few of my friends and I were invited to a party for the winner. He arrived in a limo with a bunch of people.

T: What was the first thing to tip you off that this wasn't a typical party?

SS: When I arrived, there was no alcohol and I didn't smell any pot, but everyone was walking around like they were drunk or loaded. Guys had their shirts off and wore these funny-looking crosses on chains. Some had snakes wrapped around their necks, too.

As soon as I walked in, guys were introducing me and others to their girlfriends and wives. The girls would start checking you out, looking you up and down. Then they'd look at their man and nod or say, "Yeah, okay." A few minutes later, you'd see different guys fondling these other guys' wives. Or it would be women all over them. My buddy elbows me and says:

"Look, this guy's over there on the floor about to jump that girl's bones!"

I look over, and it was no girl. It was another guy. There was probably close to 500 pounds of naked muscle rolling around on the floor kissing.
T: By now, you knew that this was a very different kind of party?
SS: Definitely. Then, four attractive young ladies walked in the door. The first thing they said was, "It hasn't started yet?" One was African- American, two were Caucasian, and one was Asian. One of the white girls was walking around with a long-necked beer bottle, practicing her blowjob technique on it.

As soon as they figured out that "it" hadn't started yet, one of the white girls and the black girl went into a bathroom. They didn't come out for half an hour and were laughing like crazy. The black girl went up to my girlfriend, got right up in her face, and said, "Hi." She winked and licked her lips at her.

T: A friendly gesture, I'd say.

SS: My girl figured out what was happening right away. Then, this famous pornstar comes down the stairs. She's known for being the world's greatest gangbanger (note, there are at least three women in adult film who currently claim this distinction). She approached another girl, a total stranger to her, and tried to take her upstairs to get it on. The girl didn't want to go.

Then my girl wandered into the next room. On a chair was a famous pro bodybuilder with his shirt off, a big guy whom you all know. About eight or ten people, men and women, were sitting on the floor around him, like little kids waiting to hear a story. He was explaining to them how the "game" was going to start off. It was a game like spin the bottle. Whoever the bottle pointed to had to blow him. The winner was the one who could make him cum. He said that everyone needed to participate. This was so that nobody would tell anyone about it.

Another big guy with no shirt was now trying to push me and my friends into the room to be part of the game. Either that, or he wanted us to leave. It was very obvious that you had to get involved or leave. At this point, once they saw that we weren't going to join in the game, they separated my group. They took me and my guy friend into a room with those four girls from before and wanted us to party with them.

Meanwhile, the pornstar was now trying to get my girl to go upstairs. At the same time, one of the guys with no shirt and a funny cross tried to get her to take a hit of Ecstasy. She wouldn't. We seemed to be the only ones who weren't on it.

T: What on earth was this pornstar doing there in the middle of all of these bodybuilders?
SS: She was a friend of a group of foreign guys who really run this thing. They're not bodybuilders, but they're good friends of the contest winner and always seem to be at the major events and gyms. They could be tied into the porn business somehow, but I'm just guessing.

T: Did you do anything with the four wild girls?

SS: I thought about it, but then I thought about what I had to lose. I love my girlfriend and have too much respect for her to do something so meaningless and cheap right in front of her.

On top of that, I got the feeling that after we did anything with the girls, the big guys would try to get us for themselves. It was like if we'd done the girls, it would have been anything goes. No way did I want to have a 250-pound guy trying to force himself on me. There were quite a few of them, too.

T: Out of curiosity, was it an equal ratio of men to women?

SS: No. There were maybe two girls for every guy, and most of them were either really pretty or outright beautiful. But about half of them seemed much more interested in each other than in the men. I think that they were all bisexual.
T: We've established that some of the men were top bodybuilders whom we all know. Were any of the women recognizable bodybuilders or fitness women?
SS: Yes, there were both, and all names that you know.

T: Were these women who we'd suspect would be involved in something like this, or would we all think of them as sweet, innocent Pollyannas?

SS: Pollyannas all the way ? nice, wholesome girls ready to **** anything around that wasn't moving. You'd never guess the ones who were there.

T: Unbelievable. Okay, let's back up a bit. You were invited to this party, even though they didn't know whether or not you'd be accepting of these types of activities? Doesn't that seem strange, even stupid, on their part?

SS: As far as we knew ahead of time, it was just a party. I don't know why they thought that we'd get involved in all of the weird sex. Maybe they just wanted to have sex with us and were willing to take a chance. I found out that the party used to be at a different house. It's been going on for two or three years.

T: What happened next?
SS: I heard a noise in the bathroom. A big guy was screaming, "Give it to me hard, I like it hard!" I recognized his voice. It was someone that I knew. Everyone knows him from the magazines. I never even suspected that he was gay, or bisexual, or whatever he is. But there he was, getting ****ed in the ass. A bunch of people were watching.

When those guys finished, another big guy came in, pushed the "pitcher" up against the wall, and started kissing him. Then he went down on him. Now I was really ready to get out of there. They were trying to keep us there. It was one of those very uncomfortable situations where someone is trying to pretend that they're still friendly, but there was an edge of hostility. They were blocking our exit, saying, "Hey, you don't have to go." I didn't know whether they'd try to physically restrain or attack us, but we left, and nothing happened.

[pryme]

that story is sick.

[The Abomination]

Originally Posted by Ironman2005

wow i was trying to find out more about the story on the net and i found this

The Sex Cult of Venice Beach

by Jason Caruso
Preface
It isn't so much for them that I conceal their identities, but rather for their fans. Bodybuilding has always been a sport with a revered pantheon of role models to emulate. I wouldn't want the guilt of knowing that my writings were responsible for a part of that pantheon being forever associated with depravity and perversion.
I've known these men on a very casual basis for several years, yet never suspected the secret lives that they were leading behind the gym and the posing stage. I'll never be able to see so much as a picture of them now without feeling utter, vile revulsion.

Because I couldn't bear the thought that they knew that I've discovered their filthy secret, I opted to write this under an assumed name. To those of you who choose to label me a coward hiding behind a pen name, I must counter that, in this case, the stakes are definitely too high to risk disclosing my identity. It isn't so impossible to speculate that I could also be put in significant danger, as well, should I be identified as the one to break the silence of their clandestine forays into the darkest sins of the flesh.

This is the story of the most disturbing night of this man's life. Be forewarned, all descriptions are quite graphic. If you're easily offended by sexually explicit discussion, you may want to skip this interview altogether.

T: How did this night begin for you?

Secret Source: We'd all just gone to a big show where I knew a few of the competitors, including the winner. Afterward, a few of my friends and I were invited to a party for the winner. He arrived in a limo with a bunch of people.

T: What was the first thing to tip you off that this wasn't a typical party?

That's a lovely piece of fiction....don't be so naive, anybody could've wrote that and it's not just Venice Beach this "subculture" exists....****, for all you know John and Jane America with 6 kids next door could be the biggest freaks around.

[Showtyme]

Does that story have any credibility? Where the hell did you get it?

Crazy stuff.

[Gibblets]

Read this interview found on BB.com:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/titusinterview.htm

Does seem like maybe Titus is involved with these sex parties?

[Morbid_Mind]

Originally Posted by mr_moto_civic

Where are his recent pics?

Wait for the mugshots.

[Contract Killer]

Originally Posted by Morbid_Mind

Wait for the mugshots.

O RLY????

[MonsterG8r]

Originally Posted by The Abomination

That's a lovely piece of fiction....don't be so naive, anybody could've wrote that and it's not just Venice Beach this "subculture" exists....****, for all you know John and Jane America with 6 kids next door could be the biggest freaks around.

Our 5th is now on the way. What are you saying?? You know all that stuff about me was made up!!!lol

[kann]

Originally Posted by Contract Killer

O RLY????

wow, that's a REALLY bad attempt. hopefully it was an outright joke going on here that i missed...