Nope, they were fullOriginally Posted by UnlimitedSteel
Thread: Ben Johnson 700 Lbs Squat
12-21-2005, 01:48 PM #31
12-21-2005, 01:58 PM #32
12-21-2005, 02:01 PM #33
12-21-2005, 02:02 PM #34
12-21-2005, 02:07 PM #35
12-21-2005, 02:21 PM #36
12-21-2005, 02:30 PM #37Originally Posted by Dynamin
A full squat is going as low as your range of motion allows or pretty damn close. Most guys can get to a position where their asses are about 3-5 inches off the ground....some can even touch their ass to the ground, like my friend lol but a realistic ROM for him would be gettin his ass 3" from the ground
In a "just past parallel" squat, you still have about 8-12 inches of range of motion left....even more if you're taller!
12-21-2005, 02:33 PM #38
12-21-2005, 02:43 PM #39Originally Posted by UnlimitedSteel
Now you're getting into whether his ass shoulda been 3 or 5 inches of the ground
I'm beginning to wonder whether you americans are jealous of our sprinters and cant accept the fact Ben squatted that much.
Juice or no juice
12-21-2005, 02:54 PM #40
12-21-2005, 02:54 PM #41Originally Posted by Dynamin
Ben Johnson was kickass, he's like an idol to me, and I mean that.
I'm pretty ****ing impressed with the guy, VERY STRONG. His bench was also 407x2
But you know what? You asked a question, and I answered you. Didn't even know you were fukin referring back to Ben Johnson!! No need to make retarded accusations because I gave you a very detailed answer so you have an understanding of what a true full squat is and what a just past parallel squat is!!
12-21-2005, 03:06 PM #42
12-21-2005, 03:10 PM #43
12-22-2005, 05:21 AM #44
12-22-2005, 06:47 AM #45
- Join Date: Aug 2004
- Location: York, Yorkshire, United Kingdom (Great Britain)
- Age: 28
- Stats: 5'11", 180 lbs
- Posts: 452
- BodyPoints: 879
- Rep Power: 140
12-22-2005, 07:35 AM #46
- Join Date: Jul 2005
- Location: Princeton, New Jersey
- Posts: 348
- BodyPoints: 242
- Rep Power: 132
Thats total BS...no 700 lb. squat. He squatted 620 or so...his workouts were 3 rep training in the high 500 lb range and then he would immediately sprint to push him through sticking points. He was a freak but to say it was 700 lbs below parallel I think is just not true.Ben Johnson did have more juice in him then a bucket of grapefruit but...no. He still was a Winner, uh I mean a Win-strol.
Last edited by Strongerthanall; 12-22-2005 at 07:43 AM.Squat- 620 max. with knee wraps and belt. 405x 20
Bench- 455 raw
deadlift- 555 with belt
12-22-2005, 08:14 AM #47
12-22-2005, 10:17 AM #48
Here's a pic of Idalberto Arranda 170lb Cuban oly lifter doing 638lb for 2 reps.
So those who say a 180 lb guy cant sqaut 700, I say you should shut the f*vck up!!
12-22-2005, 11:09 AM #49
12-22-2005, 11:30 AM #50
12-22-2005, 12:09 PM #51
Originally Posted by Perceptionist"However, the strength of the hamstring muscles is crucial to fully exploit the strength potential of the quads and ultimately the vertical force that the athlete is able to impart to the barbell." - Andrew Charniga, Jr.
- Join Date: Nov 2004
- Location: Texas
- Age: 35
- Posts: 3,886
- BodyPoints: 3838
- Rep Power: 1993
12-22-2005, 12:59 PM #52
12-22-2005, 01:08 PM #53
- Join Date: Dec 2005
- Location: United States
- Stats: 5'9", 215 lbs
- Posts: 27,431
- BodyPoints: 12505
- Rep Power: 96076
i'm not saying he did it or not. I personally don't care that much one way or another, but why is it so tough to believe that he could hit 700ish?
The dude was a sprinter, sprinters have to have INSANELY explosive strength in their hams and glutes. I see no reason why the best sprinter of all time (yeah yeah, banned, schmanned, he just got caught, like Tim Montgomery) could not hit 700 on the squat, especially considering that he did so much strength training.
On a side note, a "full squat" for the purpose of most discussions is one that would land greens on the platform, so just past parallel probably means 1" past parallel, so probably 3 greens.
12-23-2005, 12:05 AM #54
12-23-2005, 12:06 AM #55
12-23-2005, 05:39 AM #56Originally Posted by Mateo_66
I guess for sprinters its not necessary to go max, but I have heard stories of him doing around 700 lbs max
12-23-2005, 05:44 AM #57
04-25-2013, 08:47 PM #58
- Join Date: Jun 2007
- Location: Texas, United States
- Age: 44
- Stats: 6'2", 245 lbs
- Posts: 18
- Rep Power: 0
I also heard the 350 LB bench number too.
Now that I hear about the 600 was for 2 sets of 6 reps, makes it even more incredible.
Any 180 LB man who can control 600 LB's for a squat and power back up with it, is going to have a great strength to weight ratio. It's no guarantee they are running a 9.79 100 M though.
But if this person has a descent height and muscles and tendons are laid out well, they can be trained to become fast. I'd even say under 11.0 100 M as a guarantee if they dedicate themselves to the endeavor.
04-26-2013, 12:06 AM #59
04-26-2013, 09:10 AM #60
Person: Lift Claim.
Me: Pics or Sanctioned Report or it didn't happen.
End.Training Log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=152769373
TNG bench: 340x1
Paused bench: 330x1
6x BW rawrawraw PL total by June 22nd at the IPA Strength Spectacular Powerlifting Championships.
7x BW rawrawraw PL total by the end of 2013 at the 12th Annual USAPL American Open Powerlifting Championships.