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    is it ok to do cardio in the morning and do weight lifting in the p.m?

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    Yep, that's what I would do. The optimal time for fat burning is in the morning on an empty stomach, and then you can get carbed up before your afternoon training session.
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    should i do two PWO shakes? and is it ok to do an hour of cardio and 2 hours of weight lifting?
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    Originally Posted by mcool View Post
    should i do two PWO shakes? and is it ok to do an hour of cardio and 2 hours of weight lifting?
    After cardio i'd just eat solid food. After the workout do your shake. Try and keep your weight training under 1 1/2 hours. Your testosterone levels peak around 45-55 minutes so it's optimal to finish your training in an hour.
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    Originally Posted by TheNaturalTank View Post
    Yep, that's what I would do. The optimal time for fat burning is in the morning on an empty stomach, and then you can get carbed up before your afternoon training session.
    wtf? hell lose muscle if he does it on an empty stomach.
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    Do you think it would be beneficial to take glutamine after the morning cardio along with his food?
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    Originally Posted by someguy20 View Post
    wtf? hell lose muscle if he does it on an empty stomach.
    No he won't. If he does slow cardio on the treadmill on an empty stomach, it will burn off fat. If he does TOO MUCH cardio in the morning, it will burn muscle.
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    Originally Posted by gamron View Post
    Do you think it would be beneficial to take glutamine after the morning cardio along with his food?
    I'd save it for the PWO shake.
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    im starting my cut tomorrow morning. so dont do fasted HITT in the morning? my plan is

    20-40 min cardio morning before 1st meal (HITT or SS?)

    7-8pm 45-1hr heavy weight training w/ maybe 10-15 cardio after workout

    want to preserve muscle mass as well.
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    Originally Posted by TheNaturalTank
    No he won't. If he does slow cardio on the treadmill on an empty stomach, it will burn off fat. If he does TOO MUCH cardio in the morning, it will burn muscle.
    Understandable where you're coming from, because I used to advocate the same activity. But the amount of fat that is burned during low-intensity morning cardio is negligible. Considering that you have just awoken from an 8-hour or so overnight fast, your body's BMR has dropped accordingly. To extend the fast another hour (or however long it takes you to complete the empty-stomach cardio) will not do much in the way of counteracting the halted BMR, as it will elevate it only slightly. In other words, anyone performing exercise in the context of a suppressed metabolism will not derive the full benefit of the exercise. The famine switch has been flipped in the body; creating an additional caloric deficit through exercise will not elevate the metabolism as much as after a meal. This is why you see all these health nuts starting to urge people to never start their day without breakfast. BMR is kicked up to its normal pace and the body will be more receptive to the effects of exercise, whose efficacy is compromised by upwards of 50% in a fasted state. That and the fact that low-intensity cardio does nothing in the way of increasing resting growth hormone levels that HIIT cardio does. With strength loss as the issue with HIIT, eating more food will make up the difference, as well as scheduling of the HIIT on non-training days. Endomorphs would probably respond better to HIIT, which would likely work against ectomorphs. The implications: you will see someone reach a higher degree of leanness dropping empty-stomach low-intensity morning cardio altogether in favor of HIIT cardio, which makes for the ability to put more food down the hatch without worrying about it being partitioned towards adipocyte storage.
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    Originally Posted by TheNaturalTank View Post
    After cardio i'd just eat solid food. After the workout do your shake. Try and keep your weight training under 1 1/2 hours. Your testosterone levels peak around 45-55 minutes so it's optimal to finish your training in an hour.
    So if i work out for 2+ hours, anything after the first hour is not good??? where could i find more info on this statement? Don;t Body builders work out for like 3+hours a day?
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    no, they do not
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    Originally Posted by martinelli View Post
    Understandable where you're coming from, because I used to advocate the same activity. But the amount of fat that is burned during low-intensity morning cardio is negligible. Considering that you have just awoken from an 8-hour or so overnight fast, your body's BMR has dropped accordingly. To extend the fast another hour (or however long it takes you to complete the empty-stomach cardio) will not do much in the way of counteracting the halted BMR, as it will elevate it only slightly. In other words, anyone performing exercise in the context of a suppressed metabolism will not derive the full benefit of the exercise. The famine switch has been flipped in the body; creating an additional caloric deficit through exercise will not elevate the metabolism as much as after a meal. This is why you see all these health nuts starting to urge people to never start their day without breakfast. BMR is kicked up to its normal pace and the body will be more receptive to the effects of exercise, whose efficacy is compromised by upwards of 50% in a fasted state. That and the fact that low-intensity cardio does nothing in the way of increasing resting growth hormone levels that HIIT cardio does. With strength loss as the issue with HIIT, eating more food will make up the difference, as well as scheduling of the HIIT on non-training days. Endomorphs would probably respond better to HIIT, which would likely work against ectomorphs. The implications: you will see someone reach a higher degree of leanness dropping empty-stomach low-intensity morning cardio altogether in favor of HIIT cardio, which makes for the ability to put more food down the hatch without worrying about it being partitioned towards adipocyte storage.
    repped, good post here.
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    bulgarian power lifters life 9 times a day for 45 minutes each, doing only singles and 2-3 reps. Of course it takes them years to get to that endurance, but nonetheless I thought it was impressive lol. and yea cardio in the morning sounds good.
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