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    I feel as though I worked out for nothing. Please help...

    So far I've been on the right track with the work out. I use the Iron Gym to do 100 push-ups in various formations. Then I get on the weights and do five sets of ten at 140 lbs and then I do 5 sets of 10 on the ab wheel. I've seen results but I think I've done something wrong because I am starting to feel less "hard" and more flabby. Its weird.

    In the morning I make breakfast tacos: two eggs cooked in coconut oil, avocados on a corn tortilla. I have two of them and down a soy protein isolate shake 25g of soy protein.

    During the day I eat a Lara bar and after the workout another soy protein shake.

    For dinner I usually have chicken and brown rice or quinoa. Some nights fish and rice, and other nights steak and sweet potatoes (plain no butter). On the nights I don't eat a whole meal I'll just make a turkey sandwich on gluten free bread, blue corn chips, and a pickle.

    On the days I don't workout I power walk and sprint a good five to six miles. I do this every other day.

    Where am I going wrong? I was doing so well at first. The first two weeks were brilliant then the third week I feel almost as though I gained weight or that my muscles aren't firm. I feel loose.

    Is it the soy protein? I've heard the stuff is no good and makes you gain weight especially in the chest. Is this true? I'm lactose intolerant which is why I don't drink whey.

    A little help please. I would really appreciate it.

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    Maybe it's the Lara bar. The one I are today had 230 calories and 13g of fat?
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    Not sure if this is a joke or not.

    If you're not tracking calories then you're just guessing, and badly by the sounds of it. If you're gaining weight you're eating too much. Read the stickies on this forum on how to calculate what you need.
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    you are not tracking your calories, you need to. Also...add more weight, you're not going to get back full muscles doing 140 lbs for 5 sets of 10, etc...you need to progressively get stronger to get bigger. Your body will only make enough muscle to lift 140 lbs for 'X' amount of reps.
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    " Then I get on the weights and do five sets of ten at 140 lbs"

    Er..... What's your actual workout? Five sets of ten of what? How often do you increase the weight? What's your diet like? How much over maintenance are you?

    Read the stickies, then re read them. Understand why no one is answering due to lack of basic info. Then read the stickies again (including nutrition forum) then ask any questions you need to.
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    i disagree,i think it's the lara bar !!!!!
    i jerk, you clean.

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    Originally Posted by UgotAniceSNATCH View Post
    i disagree,i think it's the lara bar !!!!!
    You're right! I missed that vital piece of information in post 2.
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    This is not a joke. I'm new to all this.

    So increase weights and count calories. I figured that the meals I was eating were low calories to begin with so I didn't really have to count. How caloric could two eggs in two tacos with avocados in a corn tortilla be? A Lara bar for a snack and meat and rice/potatoes for dinner?

    What about the soy protein? I had done this work out before a year ago and saw good results. I thinned out and looked toned bit this time I'm looking flabby or I see muscle tone building but it lasts for a day and then next its loose. Does that make sense? It's not firm.

    I keep thinking it could the soy protein isolate? Should I switch to lactose free whey?
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    What should I increase the sets to? I'm doing 140 lbs five sets of ten benching. Should I go up to 160?

    I'm looking for lean muscle and to look toned, not bulky.

    Am I doing too much cardio?
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    Originally Posted by jude989 View Post
    What should I increase the sets to? I'm doing 140 lbs five sets of ten benching. Should I go up to 160?

    I'm looking for lean muscle and to look toned, not bulky.

    Am I doing too much cardio?
    LOL, all muscle is lean.

    Don;t worry...the way you eat...you'll never get 'too bulky'
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    Originally Posted by Jasonk282 View Post
    LOL, all muscle is lean.

    Don;t worry...the way you eat...you'll never get 'too bulky'
    Ok sorry.


    So I'm guessing tut might be the soy protein. It just hasn't been as great to me as whey in the past.
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    Originally Posted by jude989 View Post
    Ok sorry.


    So I'm guessing tut might be the soy protein. It just hasn't been as great to me as whey in the past.
    Nope, you were right the first time. Lara bar.
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    Originally Posted by Dan_S View Post
    Nope, you were right the first time. Lara bar.
    I thought you guys were being sarcastic. It could be the Lara bars?

    What are your thoughts on soy protein isolate? What's the word? Is it just as as good as whey? I keep thinking its making me a not fatter since I keep reading that it has estrogen in it and it leads to man boobs and such. That after a while of taking it in it just creates extra fat.
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    Originally Posted by jude989 View Post
    I thought you guys were being sarcastic. It could be the Lara bars?

    What are your thoughts on soy protein isolate? What's the word? Is it just as as good as whey? I keep thinking its making me a not fatter since I keep reading that it has estrogen in it and it leads to man boobs and such. That after a while of taking it in it just creates extra fat.
    Your getting fat because you're probably eating to many calories. Do you even know how many calories you should be eating?
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    Lara bars..................The Silent Killer
    Say that to the quart of chili I just ate...talk about a silent killer
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    Calculate TDEE: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156380183

    Eat surplus to gain, deficit to lose. Read through info in nutrition section.

    Use MyFitnessPal to track what you eat - tracking calories and macronutrients is key, as well as getting in proper micronutrients.

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    Say that to the quart of chili I just ate...talk about a silent killer
    For me it's just protein - don't light a match anywhere near me.
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    Say that to the quart of chili I just ate...talk about a silent killer
    lol
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    While i know nothing of this Lara Bar that everyone seems to be hating, but from my experience serving size could be an issue. However, i'm rather interested in this lara bar, i shall go google it and see what the hell it is.
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    I shouldn't say that I'm gaining weight. I apologize for the confusion. I'm more saying that I feel as though on the day of my workout I'm looking great and my muscles feel firm. Then a couple of days later I'm loose.

    I do sense that I'm losing weight but just getting more loose than anything else. I feel as though the muscles I worked out are not staying hard. That's why I was wondering if I was drinking some bad protein. I see where muscle should be, I'm getting cut, but it's not hard. Its looser.

    Could it be I do too much cardio? I sprint and power walk about six miles every other day
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    Originally Posted by jude989 View Post
    I shouldn't say that I'm gaining weight. I apologize for the confusion. I'm more saying that I feel as though on the day of my workout I'm looking great and my muscles feel firm. Then a couple of days later I'm loose.

    I do sense that I'm losing weight but just getting more loose than anything else. I feel as though the muscles I worked out are not staying hard. That's why I was wondering if I was drinking some bad protein. I see where muscle should be, I'm getting cut, but it's not hard. Its looser.

    Could it be I do too much cardio? I sprint and power walk about six miles every other day
    LOL...that's called a pump.
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    I understand that but how do you retain the muscle?
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    While i know nothing of this Lara Bar that everyone seems to be hating, but from my experience serving size could be an issue. However, i'm rather interested in this lara bar, i shall go google it and see what the hell it is.
    Don't do it. Once you go down the path of Lara Bars, there's no turning back.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonk282 View Post
    LOL...that's called a pump.
    Dude I get that you find my ignorance hilarious but instead of one sentence quips you could offer some extensive advice.
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    Originally Posted by jude989 View Post
    Dude I get that you find my ignorance hilarious but instead of one sentence quips you could offer some extensive advice.
    Since I'm feeling nice today, here's what you need to do.

    Read this thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156380183

    Forget everything you think you know about nutrition. Don't worry so much about what the food source is, as opposed to what nutrients it provides (calories first, protein/carb/fat breakdown second).

    Go to the top of the Workout Programs and find yourself a beginners routine. Do the routine, exactly as it is spelled out for at least 6 months. Don't give up or try and change the program until those 6 months are up. For those 6 months, don't worry about what you look like. Just eat and do the routine. Take progress pictures and measurements today and then again in 6 months.

    Do both of those things and you'll be set.
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    Originally Posted by jude989 View Post
    Dude I get that you find my ignorance hilarious but instead of one sentence quips you could offer some extensive advice.
    Fair enough. Here's some:


    Quit dicking around doing pushups and drinking soy shakes. Start all over again, here:




    Beginner bodybuilding program:
    *Routine: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4195843


    If you don't know how to perform any of the exercises in this program, look them up here to learn how to do them correctly:
    http://exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html



    No requirement for supplements at your level; learn how to eat first. This thread will explain all the steps to figure your baseline of required protein, fat, carbs, and calories:
    *Emma Leigh's calorie/macro thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156380183




    Buy an inexpensive digital food scale (~$30 at any big-box discount store), weigh your portions, and track them here: http://fitday.com
    No brain, no gain.

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    That's what I'm talking about! Thanks guys! I appreciate it
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    One last question; with regards to the the soy protein. Was it a good source? What's the final word in soy isolate? Does it block digestion and does it give you....well...man boobs?
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