Get Your Mind Right, Get The Girls And Run

[Below 30]

Why do men struggle so much with women and relationships? It's because of 'Logical Social Programming' (LSP). Logic tells us that being nice and doing nice things should make people feel comfortable and inviting towards one another. It's true, it does do those things, but only under the right circumstances. When it comes to relationships with females, standard logic does not work.

LSP is what young men recieve and is reinforced to them during the course of their early adult life. Women have a natural selection process that they use to determine which man gets to have sexual relations with her. Before the industrial revolution (factories, automation etc) when people lived off the land, women's requirements for the right man made logical sense. This was because a weak minded, shy and passive man would not be able to defend the girl and his territory from outside threats. Only a 'tough' guy would be able to provide for and ensure the survival of a potential family.

Fast foward to the future. The 'urban Jungle', governments, laws, police, military, by-laws, courts and jail time. All of these things take away the need for any one man to have to be a natural hero to a potential family. That requirement has been left in the hands of the government. Ironically, if a man were to use natural instincts and methods to defend his family, the government would punish him for breaking 'man made laws'. Since men don't have to be the dominant warriors that were required of them in primative times, 'Logical Social Programming' seemed to make sense.

Problem is, the female mind hasn't fully evolved to today's government controlled lifestyle. Women on a 'subconscious' level, still want the 'tough guy' that will protect her so that she can be safe long enough to raise a family. So as we're taught to introduce ourselves as caring, sensitive and financially stable guys to girls, they are being turned off by it. Females see/hear compliments, gifts and lots of attention from men, but they don't see a 'tough guy'. What females want from a man in today's society is illogical, but it's a fact and a reality. Men have to "Get their minds right" in order to increase their chances at attracting females on a deep, subconscious level.

The next installment from me will be ideas on how to get your minds right and understand why you must break away from LSP -30-

[Brutotal]

While I like the general idea I have to disagree with this evolution and no longer needing "strong confident guys"/ the guys women are attracted to.

The sucessful and confident man is still the mover and shaker, if it wasn't for birth control and divorce he'd have the "strongest/largest" family. What is "sucessful" and what you should pursue in life is destroyed by culture.

If you want to know why society is messed up look at a common childhood, your playing w/e sport and Dad says go crush the other team. Mom stands up and says its alright if you win or lose. You were probably told it was okay if you took home an "average" grade or weren't the best althlete. The idea that we can be mediocure, hell the way our culture incourages you to be average, is a problem.

[82nd_Fister]

If you want to know why society is messed up look at a common childhood, your playing w/e sport and Dad says go crush the other team. Mom stands up and says its alright if you win or lose. You were probably told it was okay if you took home an "average" grade or weren't the best althlete. The idea that we can be mediocure, hell the way our culture incourages you to be average, is a problem.

This is why Asian kids are so good at everything.

[NYY]

While I like the general idea I have to disagree with this evolution and no longer needing "strong confident guys"/ the guys women are attracted to.

The sucessful and confident man is still the mover and shaker, if it wasn't for birth control and divorce he'd have the "strongest/largest" family. What is "sucessful" and what you should pursue in life is destroyed by culture.

If you want to know why society is messed up look at a common childhood, your playing w/e sport and Dad says go crush the other team. Mom stands up and says its alright if you win or lose. You were probably told it was okay if you took home an "average" grade or weren't the best althlete. The idea that we can be mediocure, hell the way our culture incourages you to be average, is a problem.

Yeah encouraging mediocrity isn't helping because in the real world, mediocrity isn't accepted. Professional sports teams aren't looking for average players, they're looking for the best players just to use that as an example. Another great post Below.

[de_barathrum]

good thread. this has alot of potential IMO.

[nognig]

See, the problem is, reality doesn't support the idea that women want "strong, confident" men.

I would say 50% of the women I know, that are my age (25-35), are in relationships where the men are apathetic, unsure, anxious and unconfident.

Some of the women dating these guys are pretty hot too.

NN

[de_barathrum]

See, the problem is, reality doesn't support the idea that women want "strong, confident" men.

I would say 50% of the women I know, that are my age (25-35), are in relationships where the men are apathetic, unsure, anxious and unconfident.

Some of the women dating these guys are pretty hot too.

NN

hmmm... we must live in different worlds.

the thing is... i dont see guys who are confident and sure about themselves whining about how they cant get a girl... the only guys that i see that complain about that are needy, desperate guys.

[Ace_2007]

Guys being so logical is what makes us so great.

We find logical sollutions to problems and then use the information to our advantage, IE by learning female pyshcology (spelling?) and learning social dynamics we can pretty much manipulate things to our advantage.

Woman have evolved just like us guys have otherwise society wouldnt exist but the same attraction instincts still apply in the modern world for both sexes.

Men are still attracted to girls with nice healthy bodies and a pretty face.
Women are still attracted to powerfull guys who represent the best of the bunch.

[Below 30]

Now that you can see the problem with 'Logical Social Programming', what do you do about it? First, you have to realize where you're getting LSP from. It comes from society. What is society? Not a text book answer, but basically it's a group of people that were made important by their peers. Whatever this group of people said, went. Nobody would question the logic of anything these important people said and would pass this information on to the next generations.

But society on the whole is made up of individuals; you and me. So why do we follow the words of people we don't know without analyzing their logic? It's because of Fear. We are scared to go against the grain of the masses. If you did that, you would be called a traiter and banished from the security of acceptance. We are born (in current times) to believe that we must never be alone. If we are alone we are taught that we are failures in life. Even if you are happiest being a man of your own and successful in your ventures, you're still called a failure by society.

When you were born, did society take your first breath of oxygen? Did society drink the milk from your mother? Did society make you take your first steps on your feet? No! You did those things yourself, if you didn't, you would have died. So start to realize that you are a man of your own and only you can make your life as efficient as you want to. If society said that it's okay to put your hand in the mouth of a grizzly bear, would you do it? Think about that.

We have something called 'instincts'. It's like a common sense mechanism we develop as we age. You know when it's right to do something and when it's wrong. If society has an ideology that makes you think something is wrong, don't follow it. Do what seems right for yourself. If you know that hanging out at bars on friday nights goes against your desires, DON'T DO IT! You hear on the news when bar fights happen or clubs get shot up all the time. Alot of those people were only there because there friends (society) said if they didn't go, they'd be disowned. But now some dude is in intensive care after being shot are beat-up and his friends (society) aren't around for him.

That dude would have been happy to be at home watching movies with his family or playing video games. Instead, he tried to please society to fit in and now his life is on the brink of death. Start following your own instincts and make decisions that are right for your life, not for society.

The next installment from me, will be my ideas on how to take the person that you are naturally and convey confidence and Alpha status to the females -30-

[de_barathrum]

good stuff 30. i look foward to the next installment.

[HersheyWalker]

I don't. (no homo)

[TheNextEpisde]

We're all animals and as animals, we have primal needs.

In the days of hardship, there's a certain criteria of things that one would look for a partner.

In the days of comfort and luxury, there's another set of criteria.

The only reason why there is this gender line blurring is because of socioeconomics. If you are middle or upper class, you will never have to work hard for much in life. You will never open the cupboards (comberds) and find nothing there to eat. You're not going to worry about catching typhoid from water. There's no imminent danger except what some girl said to you the night before. Big f*cking deal. As you can tell, without this danger, there is no longer the lines. They can be blurred and blurred successfully.

The role of women has changed because now they are working and working at salaries that are comparable to men. The days of the barefoot and pregnant housewife on tranquilizers are pretty much over. If women are going to bring in the same amount of money, its expected that equality will apply to many other things. This much is blatantly obvious.

This doesn't mean there is an absence of masculine men and feminine women. There's plenty in each. If people are unwilling to pay attention to them, you can't fault humanity for something you refuse to acknowledge.

Do they like protectors? I am not sure they needed protectors in the first place. We are social beings and the social network provides group security, unless in grave exceptions.

The truth is that men don't need women for much and women don't need men for much. There are plenty of celibate men and women that are blazing new paths in technology and just about everything else. Newton and Tesla are an example of such people. On this note, it could be argued that sex can be done away with entirely and we would see lots of advancement in regards to almost everything.

[The Player]

Why do men struggle so much with women and relationships? It's because of 'Logical Social Programming' (LSP). Logic tells us that being nice and doing nice things should make people feel comfortable and inviting towards one another. It's true, it does do those things, but only under the right circumstances. When it comes to relationships with females, standard logic does not work.

LSP is what young men recieve and is reinforced to them during the course of their early adult life. Women have a natural selection process that they use to determine which man gets to have sexual relations with her. Before the industrial revolution (factories, automation etc) when people lived off the land, women's requirements for the right man made logical sense. This was because a weak minded, shy and passive man would not be able to defend the girl and his territory from outside threats. Only a 'tough' guy would be able to provide for and ensure the survival of a potential family.

Fast foward to the future. The 'urban Jungle', governments, laws, police, military, by-laws, courts and jail time. All of these things take away the need for any one man to have to be a natural hero to a potential family. That requirement has been left in the hands of the government. Ironically, if a man were to use natural instincts and methods to defend his family, the government would punish him for breaking 'man made laws'. Since men don't have to be the dominant warriors that were required of them in primative times, 'Logical Social Programming' seemed to make sense.

Problem is, the female mind hasn't fully evolved to today's government controlled lifestyle. Women on a 'subconscious' level, still want the 'tough guy' that will protect her so that she can be safe long enough to raise a family. So as we're taught to introduce ourselves as caring, sensitive and financially stable guys to girls, they are being turned off by it. Females see/hear compliments, gifts and lots of attention from men, but they don't see a 'tough guy'. What females want from a man in today's society is illogical, but it's a fact and a reality. Men have to "Get their minds right" in order to increase their chances at attracting females on a deep, subconscious level.

The next installment from me will be ideas on how to get your minds right and understand why you must break away from LSP -30-

"i would but i dont like to write wah wah wahh"

soon as i disappear u begin writing!

blasphemy!

jk, nice article

[quickups]

Good posts below 30.


From what I've getting from your posts, you are saying that we don't always have to go with what society dicates us? For example when society says party and get f*ked up in the weekend it doesn't necessarily mean you HAVE to do that. If your instinct tells you don't go out tonight then don't go.

I agree with many of your posts. Alot of people, not just girls seems to follow what is popular in society just because it is the normal thing to do. We do it because if we don't we risk of being rejected from the society. And of course, being rejected from the society back then meant dead back in our caveman days.
Being rejected = death. Similarly, we fear rejection as if it was death. The fear of public speaking is there because there is a risk of being rejected. That feeling makes us uneasy. The feeling of asking a girl out or getting the phone number, we don't know the consequences are but we were rejected, it wouldn't be a nice feeling.

[TheDukeUSMC]

Classic stuff. You as a man need to work on the inner you. Confidence is the greatest strength.

[DaCougarMech]

This is why Asian kids are so good at everything.

what?

[Below 30]

So now you know that society should never have a hold over you, because you are responsible for your own well being. Now you have to figure out how to take the core of your being and convey it positively to the females (and people in general).

You like lawn bowling? You like World of Warcraft? You like knitting and arts&crafts? Those are all things that are usually associated with losers and guys who are physically undesired by girls. But it's really just a stereotype (if you let it be a stereotype). Usually guys help reinforce these stereotypes because society says that only loser guys are into those things. So these guys figure that they don't have a chance in hell with HB's........Wrong! It doesn't matter what you're into in your personal life, just don't bring it up.

"Hide my true passions Below 30? Wow! I thought you had integrity but you are just advocating deception"

No....no, don't bring it up in the standard 'Loser' way. When you first meet a girl, it's all about making her feel good around you. That does not require you to tell her your entire life story within 5 minutes of meeting. You have to use common sense here, if a girl came up to you and randomly started talking about the Canadian House of Commons (government/politics) for 15 minutes, how long would you be interested in her? You need to show the girl you're a good time and that she needs to be with you to be happy. To do this, you have to involve her in the converstation, treat her like the lead character in a play you're directing.

You see a girl inside a Foot Locker (example) looking at shoes, so you go up to her. "Hey what's up? Are you sure these shoes really compliment your current mood?" Now follow me here, once you start talking to her and she's feeling your confident approach, you can slowly start to throw in things that you're into. But do it in an Alpha way, such a way that you will single handedly break the stereotypes.
"You know something? If you were to play a round of lawn bowling with me, you'd end up with the nick name 'Princess grass'. Because I'd bowl circles around you until you ended up a part of the lawn".

You see? Don't just talk about your interests like your talking to your grand parents, make it funny. This way you've got her laughing and you're still being true to yourself without faking your interests. The girl could ask you how often you go to clubs, but you never go to clubs;
"Me in the clubs? Come on now, if I entered a club I would just shame those all those dudes back to their parents house. But no, I don't really frequent them". You see? Instead of just saying; "Um...uh...well I don't go to clubs, sorry". You say it in a way that makes it seem like it's the new cool thing to avoid clubs now (Alpha).

This my people is called being yourself. But being yourself with a chrome shine, get it? You are not faking your beliefs or interests, but you have to keep in mind that you're trying to attract a girl. To do that, you need to step-up the fun factor, so bring it up. Every answer you give, make it Alpha. Wether it's positive or negative, make it sound like something she has to accept or like it's the latest fad.

The next installment from me will be ideas on how to place higher value on yourself, by going after only your top rated females (HB 8-10) -30-

[karzma]

well u need to make babies to fight communism and well....


if i have a family im tellin my wife she can cheat on me i can cheat on her, just use protection (at least I will) and if SHE gets pregnant then thats just more child support for us woot.


tellin her that should make her try to workout more so she can be sexy to pick up other guys.

[JPunisher]

good posts Below 30, but when its all said and done, if someone is butt ugly then none of this would work.

[peng]

good posts Below 30, but when its all said and done, if someone is butt ugly then none of this would work.

qft

[Below 30]

good posts Below 30, but when its all said and done, if someone is butt ugly then none of this would work.

qft

Exactly, you keep telling yourselves that and your plan to keep girls away from you will work perfectly. You guys waste so much time doubting yourselves, you could have used that time to actually talk to girls. When one girl doesn't give you the time of day, you move to the next and repeat.

How do you guys even know if you're ugly? Who told you? Did you talk to every girl in your area? No. You're all too happy to come up with excuses to avoid your insecurities about talking to girls.
You know about Allison Stokke? I only know of her because of this forum. That famous angled shot of her looks good. Then other photos surfaced and I don't understand anymore, why guys are still speaking so highly of her. I find her to be an average jane. Do you know what that means? It means that my view of her looks aren't like everyone elses. But what if she took my 1 opinion seriously?

So many other guys like her, so what does it matter if I don't think she looks special? My one vote means nothing in the grand scheme of things. So unless you guys can tell me that 10,000 girls think you're ugly, I'm not interested in that excuse.

I can't just look a man and be turned on, I have to smell him, be close to him, talk to him, unless I am already in the mood.

Maybe I don't get sexually aroused by looking at pictures because I want to know what type of person is in the picture. The woman could be a complete airhead or the guy could be a major jerk with great bodies. To me, that's not sexy. But show me the complete package (mind and body) and I'm hooked!

I get turned on easy...show me a hot guy without his shirt or even with his shirt or even if I'm attracted to their personality I get nervous and excited and all that good stuff, especially if they are flirty and touchy feely LOL. I don't get turned on by seeing a girl, but girl on girl porn can be hot. (No homo) It's just hot, they look better during sex then the guys, they make it look more intense I guess...but I'm strickly dickly, thanks.

-30-

[FullSack]

"You know something? If you were to play a round of lawn bowling with me, you'd end up with the nick name 'Princess grass'. Because I'd bowl circles around you until you ended up a part of the lawn". -30-

Below 30, i'm liking this thread and i can see your basic point here, but seriously, you can't possibly think that the above comment is a comment which could just be thrown into an approach conversation. It seems unwise to me to bring up hobbies that are viewed as wierd/lame by society during an approach. I can so imagine the girl thinking "....lawn bowling hey......ummm......NEXT!!!!"

[Below 30]

Below 30, i'm liking this thread and i can see your basic point here, but seriously, you can't possibly think that the above comment is a comment which could just be thrown into an approach conversation. It seems unwise to me to bring up hobbies that are viewed as wierd/lame by society during an approach. I can so imagine the girl thinking "....lawn bowling hey......ummm......NEXT!!!!"

So you can imagine..........I understand. So based on your imagination, you'd just tell the girl you're into something more acceptable to society? Where do you get the idea that she would say next? All these non-Alpha negative thoughts are what get AFC's a nice place at the back of the line for HB's.

That's why I said you introduce those things in a funny way. It's almost sarcastic sounding, but technically you're telling the truth about your character. You know why I said how to mention it during the meeting? Because so many guys have ignorant thoughts that if they don't tell girls what they like to do in their spare time, they are being deceptive. So I included a way for those type of men (that must tell girls every hobby they are into), how to do it in a non boring way.

I would never mention my hobbies to a girl in the first meeting or the first date etc. But if she asks about it and you don't want to lie (because you think that not saying it is lying) then there are Alpha ways to tell her about. The biggest complaint AFC's have with 'player material', is they think they have to pretend to be some fake dude with fake interests. I want guys to know that if you must relay your interests, do it in an Alpha way. Stop trying to predict how a girl will respond to the real you, just go and make her understand who you are and that you don't care if she thinks it's negative -30-

[FullSack]

So you can imagine..........I understand. So based on your imagination, you'd just tell the girl you're into something more acceptable to society? Where do you get the idea that she would say next? All these non-Alpha negative thoughts are what get AFC's a nice place at the back of the line for HB's.

That's why I said you introduce those things in a funny way. It's almost sarcastic sounding, but technically you're telling the truth about your character. You know why I said how to mention it during the meeting? Because so many guys have ignorant thoughts that if they don't tell girls what they like to do in their spare time, they are being deceptive. So I included a way for those type of men (that must tell girls every hobby they are into), how to do it in a non boring way.

I would never mention my hobbies to a girl in the first meeting or the first date etc. But if she asks about it and you don't want to lie (because you think that not saying it is lying) then there are Alpha ways to tell her about. The biggest complaint AFC's have with 'player material', is they think they have to pretend to be some fake dude with fake interests. I want guys to know that if you must relay your interests, do it in an Alpha way. Stop trying to predict how a girl will respond to the real you, just go and make her understand who you are and that you don't care if she thinks it's negative -30-

Dude, the title of this thread includes the words "get the girls and run". If you're just gonna do a runner afterwards - then why is it so important to put across "the real you" and to convey "who you are"? To what extent should i put across the real me? Where do you draw the line as far as what i do with my personal time? A major aspect of being succesful with girls is knowing what to reveal and what not to.

I would view it as an AFC act to unneccessarily reveal a piece of information which has the potential to significantly reduce your chances with a girl. Any guy that feels the need to reveal his lawn bowling as he feels he is otherwise being deceptive sounds like an absolute AFC to me.

I can see your point about an alpha male not giving a **** and saying what he does, coz he doesn't give a ****, because he's the man and not ashamed of what he does. HOWEVER - any alpha male with any intelligence, who isn't looking for a serious relationship (get the girls and run) will realise that he should probably not talk about his lawn bowling during an approach. If he was stupid enough to talk about his lawn bowling - he's a classic AFC in my opinion.

As a general rule, if you want to disregard what is accepted by society as normal while you're approaching girls - your success rate will suffer.

[The Player]

So now you know that society should never have a hold over you, because you are responsible for your own well being. Now you have to figure out how to take the core of your being and convey it positively to the females (and people in general).

You like lawn bowling? You like World of Warcraft? You like knitting and arts&crafts? Those are all things that are usually associated with losers and guys who are physically undesired by girls. But it's really just a stereotype (if you let it be a stereotype). Usually guys help reinforce these stereotypes because society says that only loser guys are into those things. So these guys figure that they don't have a chance in hell with HB's........Wrong! It doesn't matter what you're into in your personal life, just don't bring it up.

"Hide my true passions Below 30? Wow! I thought you had integrity but you are just advocating deception"

No....no, don't bring it up in the standard 'Loser' way. When you first meet a girl, it's all about making her feel good around you. That does not require you to tell her your entire life story within 5 minutes of meeting. You have to use common sense here, if a girl came up to you and randomly started talking about the Canadian House of Commons (government/politics) for 15 minutes, how long would you be interested in her? You need to show the girl you're a good time and that she needs to be with you to be happy. To do this, you have to involve her in the converstation, treat her like the lead character in a play you're directing.

You see a girl inside a Foot Locker (example) looking at shoes, so you go up to her. "Hey what's up? Are you sure these shoes really compliment your current mood?" Now follow me here, once you start talking to her and she's feeling your confident approach, you can slowly start to throw in things that you're into. But do it in an Alpha way, such a way that you will single handedly break the stereotypes.
"You know something? If you were to play a round of lawn bowling with me, you'd end up with the nick name 'Princess grass'. Because I'd bowl circles around you until you ended up a part of the lawn".

You see? Don't just talk about your interests like your talking to your grand parents, make it funny. This way you've got her laughing and you're still being true to yourself without faking your interests. The girl could ask you how often you go to clubs, but you never go to clubs;
"Me in the clubs? Come on now, if I entered a club I would just shame those all those dudes back to their parents house. But no, I don't really frequent them". You see? Instead of just saying; "Um...uh...well I don't go to clubs, sorry". You say it in a way that makes it seem like it's the new cool thing to avoid clubs now (Alpha).

This my people is called being yourself. But being yourself with a chrome shine, get it? You are not faking your beliefs or interests, but you have to keep in mind that you're trying to attract a girl. To do that, you need to step-up the fun factor, so bring it up. Every answer you give, make it Alpha. Wether it's positive or negative, make it sound like something she has to accept or like it's the latest fad.

The next installment from me will be ideas on how to place higher value on yourself, by going after only your top rated females (HB 8-10) -30-

I'm only gonna be posting in here though.

I saw mASF spam his link in the "wheres sauceys link" thread and it pissed me off to the point where I had to get back on here.

[Below 30]

Dude, the title of this thread includes the words "get the girls and run". If you're just gonna do a runner afterwards - then why is it so important to put across "the real you" and to convey "who you are"? To what extent should i put across the real me? Where do you draw the line as far as what i do with my personal time? A major aspect of being succesful with girls is knowing what to reveal and what not to.

I would view it as an AFC act to unneccessarily reveal a piece of information which has the potential to significantly reduce your chances with a girl. Any guy that feels the need to reveal his lawn bowling as he feels he is otherwise being deceptive sounds like an absolute AFC to me.

I can see your point about an alpha male not giving a **** and saying what he does, coz he doesn't give a ****, because he's the man and not ashamed of what he does. HOWEVER - any alpha male with any intelligence, who isn't looking for a serious relationship (get the girls and run) will realise that he should probably not talk about his lawn bowling during an approach. If he was stupid enough to talk about his lawn bowling - he's a classic AFC in my opinion.

As a general rule, if you want to disregard what is accepted by society as normal while you're approaching girls - your success rate will suffer.

Do you hear yourself mang? Relax......................Breathe in and then out......

AFC's are who need this kind of information because they always want to tell girls their true feelings and interests. Nobody, not even 'The Experiment', 'Sauce-head' or 'Super Man' can make an AFC change over night. AFC's were conditioned for so many years, that they won't understand if I tell them to duck and dodge the issues. So I'm saying things to help AFC's gradually gain more confidence while fullfilling their need to be all sensitive and true to themselves etc.

I'm not going to be like everyone else, I don't want guys to be deceptive meaning to lie. Just don't tell her about your hobbies or how many girls you sexed etc if they aren't socially favorable. Not telling, is not lying and that's the key. But IF you feel like you must tell her to ease your conscience, do it in an Alpha way, but don't lie and say you had sex with 100's of girls or your a star football player if you're not.

I'm only gonna be posting in here though.

I saw mASF spam his link in the "wheres sauceys link" thread and it pissed me off to the point where I had to get back on here.

Notice how he posts? He doesn't start threads everyday or come into every single thread with that stuff. Atleast what he does is more helpful to R/H than most of the threads started in here. Remember, atleast you're back in action with 'The Experiment' -30-

[Beklet]

good posts Below 30, but when its all said and done, if someone is butt ugly then none of this would work.

Bollocks.

How many of you post on here whining that some total fugly is getting all the hot chicks?

It's all down to perception. I get as many people on here ltelling me I look good as I do telling me I'm a munted freak

Sod all I can do about it either way.

[The Player]

Notice how he posts? He doesn't start threads everyday or come into every single thread with that stuff. Atleast what he does is more helpful to R/H than most of the threads started in here. Remember, atleast you're back in action with 'The Experiment' -30-

oh you suck at picking up women? well heres a great article: blahblah.com.au/howtopickupaustralianwomen.

thats all he ever says. its probably because i'm a webmaster myself and i noticed how he's taking advantage of the forum members for web-traffic.

you might start seeing more stuff from me and experiment in the future. nothing official yet, it all just depends how his projects go and what he wants to do with it.

sauce-heads book: still not sure if im gonna make it really cheap or free. id really like to give it away free, but i know people who get hand-outs like that wont take it seriously.

[Brutotal]

I would view it as an AFC act to unneccessarily reveal a piece of information which has the potential to significantly reduce your chances with a girl. Any guy that feels the need to reveal his lawn bowling as he feels he is otherwise being deceptive sounds like an absolute AFC to me.

I think anyone that reads all dating advice from the internet and magazine articles should read them as satire.

Regardless of what is written your going to act how you want and believe whatever you want. If you think its a bad idea to talk about what you do in your spare time because your embaressed about it then don't bring it up.

Atleast a couple people will get away with bringing up dungeons and dragons because they sound confident about it.

Thats the only real value of reading stuff like this IMHO, reinforcing what you believe so that your more confident with it.

[Below 30]

Bollocks.

How many of you post on here whining that some total fugly is getting all the hot chicks?

It's all down to perception. I get as many people on here ltelling me I look good as I do telling me I'm a munted freak

Sod all I can do about it either way.

I think anyone that reads all dating advice from the internet and magazine articles should read them as satire.

Regardless of what is written your going to act how you want and believe whatever you want. If you think its a bad idea to talk about what you do in your spare time because your embaressed about it then don't bring it up.

Atleast a couple people will get away with bringing up dungeons and dragons because they sound confident about it.

Thats the only real value of reading stuff like this IMHO, reinforcing what you believe so that your more confident with it.

Well put -30-