Half Life v. Injection Site

[Gorilla34]

Ok someone pipe up and tell me if I have missed the obvious here with half lives but on roidcalc.com it mentions that all half lives listed are from scientific studies from glute injected gear. It then goes on to state that the half life would be double if the delts were injected. Why have I never seen this difference in research? (if it's cause I ride the short bus and it's common knowledge that I someone missed in the last 2 years simply tell me)

This makes me wonder becuase I have ran two identical cycles (one of which was worthless cause I got sick in PCT) but injected quads and glutes on the first, and pecs and delts on the second. Same companies gear, same qty, same length, same PCT. Got delayed onset gyno from the second cycle...hmmmm

Any help for the special kid?

[Clive Jones]

as far as i know, muscle is muscle and it does not matter where you inject, ive never heard that before..the half life deals with the compound itself, ester...etc, not what site you shoot it

as far as gyno...many things can come into play during cycle

[PG]

Originally Posted by MakinItBIG

as far as i know, muscle is muscle and it does not matter where you inject, ive never heard that before..the half life deals with the compound itself, ester...etc, not what site you shoot it

as far as gyno...many things can come into play during cycle

x2 the ester is what determines that half life.

its starts with Test Base and then the chemist has to attach a desired ester (pp,p,e,c,d,ud, etc). and that is whats will determine the rate of absorption.

[Clive Jones]

Originally Posted by PG

x2 the ester is what determines that half life.

its starts with Test Base and then the chemist has to attach a desired ester (pp,p,e,c,d,ud, etc). and that is whats will determine the rate of absorption.

but didnt ur **** grow enormous when u shot it there?? as compared to the other big muscles u have lol

[Gorilla34]

Originally Posted by PG

x2 the ester is what determines that half life.

its starts with Test Base and then the chemist has to attach a desired ester (pp,p,e,c,d,ud, etc). and that is whats will determine the rate of absorption.

this is what I would think from a chemical perspective. Here is the quote from the webpage. Thought maybe I was obtuse for not having heard of this.

"Please remember that the results are only approximate. The half-lifes used below is based on several scientific studies.
Most of these studies used the glutes as injection site, if you inject in the delta muscle you will have much longer half-lives, try doubling all half-lives."

from www.roidcalc.com

EDIT: Just noticed it says "delta muscle" ...ha....

[Gorilla34]

Originally Posted by MakinItBIG

as far as gyno...many things can come into play during cycle

so true, just saw that and wondered if maybe I had missed something obvious.

[bubba289]

i was under the impression that the larger muscle u pin the higher blood plasma levels u obtain. is that even what you're asking about or am i lost?

[Clive Jones]

Originally Posted by bubba289

i was under the impression that the larger muscle u pin the higher blood plasma levels u obtain. is that even what you're asking about or am i lost?

he is trying to spit that if you inject glutes vs delts, the HALF LIFE will change lol

the chemical make up and how long it takes to "dissipate" and be free to be used by body wont change despite muscle group lol

[bubba289]

Originally Posted by MakinItBIG

he is trying to spit that if you inject glutes vs delts, the HALF LIFE will change lol

the chemical make up and how long it takes to "dissipate" and be free to be used by body wont change despite muscle group lol

ok, got it.

[Gorilla34]

Originally Posted by MakinItBIG

he is trying to spit that if you inject glutes vs delts, the HALF LIFE will change lol

the chemical make up and how long it takes to "dissipate" and be free to be used by body wont change despite muscle group lol

well this is what I always thought, but after reading that I wondered who the dumba** was. I guess for once I am not!

EDIT: Not saying the source of this info is a dumba**, just confirming that for once I am not!

[TheJuicedchase]

The source is correct to some degree.

I don't know about their exact claims of "x" amount of effectiveness vs. different sites.

But it definitely changes depending on where it's injected....


again....I'll be back when I dig up what I'm looking for.

Years back when myself and others were discussing this topic we still came to the conclusion that there are too many variables to make the difference more than negligible when applying to a cycle.

[ratmonkey]

absorbtion rates will vary to some degree depending upon the muscle injected, but an oil depot generally will be fully metablized within a few days and unless you're using very short esters for only one shot this shouldn't have a significant effect on the half life of the depot. this still doesn't change the half life of the compount its self.

[Clive Jones]

Originally Posted by ratmonkey

absorbtion rates will vary to some degree depending upon the muscle injected, but an oil depot generally will be fully metablized within a few days and unless you're using very short esters for only one shot this shouldn't have a significant effect on the half life of the depot. this still doesn't change the half life of the compount its self.

Yeah exactly - absorption was the word I probably should have used...slightly altered but the half life is always the same,

[Gorilla34]

Thanks fellas, that makes sense. Glad it's not really enough to worry with.