If I wanted to include calves and abs in that split would I add another day (i doubt I will have the energy to do calves on the leg day you describe) or tack them on somewhere? Do you have a sample template that includes calves and abs?
Have you ever tried combining the three weeks into one? So instead of a three week periodization do a few sets for power a few sets for rep range and a few sets for shock for each exercise?
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07-04-2015, 04:56 PM #2731
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07-08-2015, 06:53 AM #2732
I think I'm just going to add calves to leg day. And abs to whatever day feels easiest.
I was reading through your FD/FS article and I realized that the answer to my second question is yea you have. The FS is similar in design to the shock while the FD is essentially Power with the emphasis on negatives. Now I'm wondering if you have ever tried adding the rep range portion in somewhere so there is a complete PRRS workout done each day? How did it go?
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07-20-2015, 04:52 PM #2733
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08-12-2015, 06:50 AM #2734
Thank you very much for this awesome program
Just finished SL 5X5 and looking for mix of hypertrophy/strength routine. I really like this routine and want to try this. I like to workout 5 days. Thursday and Sunday - OFF.. So can u help me which body part to train on which day? Also aside from whey/multi/fish oil, what other supplements should i use? And do this program require carb cycling to give better result? and should i do moderate cardio or HIIT??
Again thank you
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08-12-2015, 07:03 AM #2735
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08-21-2015, 02:04 PM #2736
Hi guys, I am about to start the PRRS training and I would like to know if my workout looks good. Can I add more sets since my usual workouts have 10-12 sets for small bodyparts and 15-20 for large bodyparts? I also want some advice for traps and abs, when should I do them and for traps, what do you think of CG upright rows? bad for shoulders? Thanks
My split:
legs
chest/bis/abs
off
back/traps/calves
delt/tris/abs
My workout:
Day 1 - Legs
POWER: week 1
- Squats...3 x 4-6
- Leg press...3 x 4-6
- leg extension...2 x 4-6 (Should I do single leg or both?)
- Lying leg curl...3 x 4-6
- Stiff deadlift...3 x 4-6
REP RANGE: week 2
- Leg extension...2 x 8-10
- Hack squat...3 x 10-12
- One legged leg press...3 x 12-15 (Leg Press Instead Of Single Leg?)
- Lying leg curl...2 x 6-8
- Stiff deadlift...2 x 8-10
- seated leg curl...2 x 10-12
SHOCK: week 3
- Superset: leg extension/front squat...2 x 8-10 each
- Superset: leg extension/leg press...2 x 8-10 each
- Dropset: lunge...1 x 8-10, drop, 8-10
- Superset: lying leg curl/toes pointed hyperextension...2 x 8-10 each
- Dropset: single leg curl...2 x 8-10, drop, 8-10
Day 2 - Chest/Biceps/Abs
POWER: week 1
- Barbell bench press...3 x 4-6
- Incline dumbbell press...3 x 4-6
- Decline Smith Machine Press...3 x 4-6 (Better Than Dips?)
REP RANGE: week 2
- Incline Barbell press...3 x 6-8
- Dumbbell Bench press...3 x 8-10
- flat dumbbell Flye...3 x 10-12
SHOCK: week 3
- Superset...cable crossover/incline smith press...2 x 8-10 reps each
- Superset...incline dumbbell flye/dips...2 x 8-10 reps each
- Dropset...machine chest press...1 x 8-10, drop 6-8, drop 6-8
Biceps
POWER: week 1
- Barbell curl...3 x 4-6
- Preacher curl...2 x 4-6
- Hammer curl...2 x 4-6
REP RANGE: week 2
- Alternating dumbell curl...2 x 6-8
- Cable curl...2 x 8-10
- Incline curl...2 x 10-12
SHOCK: week 3
- Close Grip EZ bar curl/CG chin superset...1 x 6-10 each
- Preacher curl/reverse curl superset...1 x 6-10 each
- Dropset cable single arm curl...1 x 6-10, drop 6-10
Abs:
POWER: week 1
-CABLE CRUNCH...3 X 8-10
-INCLINE BENT LEG RAISE...2 X 8-10
REP RANGE: week 2
-WEIGHTED INCLINE SIT-UP...1 X 13-15, 1 X 10-12
-SUPPORTED BENT LEG/KNEE RAISE...1 X 16-20, 1 X 13-15
-SIDE CABLE CRUNCH...1 X 21-25 PER SIDE
SHOCK: week 3
-DROPSET: CABLE CRUNCH...2 X 10-12, DROP, 6-8
-SUPERSET: HANGING STRAIGHT LEG RAISE/BENCH KNEE RAISE...1 X 10-12 EACH
Day 3 - REST
Day 4 - Back/Traps/Calves
POWER: week 1
- Bent row...3 x 4-6
- Weighted wide grip pull-up...3 x 4-6
- CG seated row...3 x 4-6
- Rack deadlift...3 x 3-6
REP RANGE: week 2
- CG weighted chin...2 x 6-8
- WG T-Bar row...2 x 8-10
- 1-arm Dumbell row...2 x 10-12
- Pullover...2 x 12-15
SHOCK: week 3
- Pullover/WG pulldown superset...1-2 x 8-10 each
- Stiff arm pulldown/reverse grip bent row...1-2 x 8-10 each
- CG seated pully row dropset...1 x 6-8, drop, 6-8, drop, 6-8
Traps:
POWER: week 1
-BARBELL SHRUGS...3 X 4-6
-CG BB UPRIGHT ROW...2 X 4-6 (Maybe I should remove CG upright rows since its bad for shoulders???)
REP RANGE: week 2
-DB SHRUGS...1 X 7-9, 1 X 10-12
-CG CABLE UPRIGHT ROW...1 X 13-15, 1 X 16-20 (Same here, remove it?)
SHOCK: week 3
-SUPERSET: BEHIND BACK BB SHRUG/CG EZ BAR UPRIGHT ROW...1 X 8-10 EACH
-DROPSET: DB SHRUG...1 X 8-10, DROP, 4-6 MORE
Calves:
POWER: week 1
-CALF PRESS...3 X 6-8
-SEATED CALF...2 X 6-8
REP RANGE: week 2
-STANDING CALF...1 X 13-15, 1 X 10-12, 1 X 7-9
-SEATED CALF...1 X 16-20, 1 X 13-15
SHOCK: week 3
-SUPERSET: CALF PRESS/STANDING CALF...1 X 8-10 EACH
-DROPSET: SEATED CALF...2 X 12-15, DROP, 6-8
Day 5 - Delts/Triceps/Abs
Delts:
POWER: week 1
- Military press...3 x 4-6
- Upright row...3 x 4-6
- "Cheat" lateral...2 x 4-6
REP RANGE: week 2
- Single arm dumbell press...3 x 6-8 (Or dumbbell press)
- Bent lateral...3 x 8-10
- Cable side lateral...2 x 10-12 (Or Machine Lateral?)
SHOCK: week 3
- Seated side lateral/machine shoulder press superset...2 x 8-10
- Reverse pec deck/WG upright row superset...2 x 8-10 (Is it better to do a superset with side lateral and upright rows instead of machine press since both move target the side delts hard?)
- Cable front raise dropset...1 x 6-8, drop 6-8, drop 6-8
Triceps:
POWER: week 1
- CG bench press...3 x 4-6
- Skull crush...2 x 4-6
- Single arm dumbell extension...1-2 x 4-6
REP RANGE: week 2
- Weighted dip...3 x 6-8
- Pushdown...2 x 8-10
- Kickback...2 x 10-12
SHOCK: week 3
- Pushdown/CG bench press superset...1-2 x 6-10 each
- Reverse grip pushdown/incline overhead extension superset...1-2 x 6-10 each
- Dropset weighted bench dip...1 x 8-10, drop 8-10
Abs: Same as day 2
What do you think?
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08-23-2015, 03:32 PM #2737
I know the P/RR/S program is old and I was wondering if there is an updated version of the original template? I found an article on PRRS and the volume has changed a bit, rest between sets for power is now 3-4 mins instead of 4-5. The tempo for shock week is 2/0/1 instead of 1/0/1 and rep range for supersets is 7-9 instead of 8-10 and dropset is 10-12 instead of 8-10.
so should I follow these new guidelines instead of the old ones?
thanks
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08-25-2015, 12:08 PM #2738
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Hey guys! So sorry I have not been here to respond to questions. Unfortunately for some reason bb.com stopped sending me emails to tell me that there is action in this thread. It was not until someone sent me a PM to let me know that I had a clue. So, I will be here over the next few days trying to catch up to all the new queries.
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08-25-2015, 01:10 PM #2739
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08-25-2015, 09:19 PM #2740
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Well, that template is nothing more than just an example of PRRS. There is also PRRS Burst cycles, Hybrid PRRS and also FDFS training as well. There are also advanced PRRS methods for each week. I do not think those small tweaks to the reps or tempos or rest periods will truly make or break the program. I always encourage my followers to play a little bit with the parameters now and again to keep the body "guessing" and the program even more variable. Sometimes on POWER week I use 6 second negatives and sometimes just 3. Some Rep Range weeks I will go 7-9, 10-12, 13-15, 16-20 and others will go 13-15, 10-12, 7-9, 4-6. So you see, while the basic "mechanics" of the program remain in place there is some room for personal variation.
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08-26-2015, 07:33 AM #2741
Ok thank you, I read about your burst cycle and Hybrid PRRS and I'm so excited to start this program with all the good things I've read about it. Just wanted to know if you updated the basic template over the years. I'll stick with the basic template for nine weeks to see how it goes.
I do have a few questions. For shock week, do you think that 2 SS and 1 DS is enough if I'm used to high volume (14-20 sets per bodyparts except for arms which is a little bit less). I've also trained 5-6 days a week and did one overreaching cycle of 8 days in a row with 3 AM/PM workouts so I did 11 workouts in 8 days and have done a lot of intensity techniques like rest-pause, Supersets, dropset, tri-sets, giant sets, forced reps, 1 and ½ reps, partial reps and some more? I don't know if you heard about MI40-X but I did this workout and there is a lot of intensity techniques as well as different tempos so how this program will be more effective with only a few techniques? I guess it's because rep range change every weeks so your body is always guessing, but in MI40-X, the exercises change every week as well as tempos and reps but its an hypertrophy program so reps are between 8 and 21 (higher reps for legs) so maybe the add of the POWER week will change everything?
as for the burst cycle, do you keep the same exercises for the entire burst cycle or only for a 3 weeks period like PPP, change exercises, RR RR RR, change exercises, SSS etc...
Finally, since I've done a lot of intensity techniques and I'm not a beginner, should I stick to the P/RR/S scheme of you have a better scheme for me with maybe FDFS in it?
thanks a lotLast edited by JoeDemers; 08-26-2015 at 08:33 AM.
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08-28-2015, 12:06 PM #2742
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08-29-2015, 07:30 AM #2743
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08-29-2015, 05:35 PM #2744
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Splits need to be based around your own strengths and weaknesses.
1. All work sets to failure.
2. Sets vary a bit from person to person but 9-12 for large groups for the average natural trainee.
3. As you can see, all muscles are trained even in POWER week.
1. All work sets to failure unless you are someone with poor recovery ability.
2. Same sets apply
3. Smaller groups should be hit with 6-8 sets at most.
1. Same
2/3. Some people stay with the same sets on Shock week. Others DO like to add a few extra sets per muscle. Personally I feel if you are working to true capacity you do not need to add anything!
4. Not necessarily, but this is something you can determine as you go along.
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08-29-2015, 05:36 PM #2745
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"Limits can be discussed, but in no way need be obeyed."
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08-30-2015, 05:06 AM #2746
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09-17-2015, 07:30 AM #2748
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10-02-2015, 08:26 PM #2749
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10-12-2015, 11:41 AM #2750
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11-10-2015, 02:40 AM #2751
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12-08-2015, 11:55 PM #2752
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01-06-2016, 08:36 AM #2755
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Im coming back to lifting after like 8 months completely off, should i hop on a beginner program for a while before trying this ? so my body gets used to lifting again, i still have quiet abit of mass but i reckon most of my strength is gone
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01-11-2016, 01:30 AM #2756
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01-23-2016, 12:55 PM #2758
If you are truly experienced and just have taken time off, try doing some rep range work with your training for all exercises for the first week or 2 like this:
set 1: 13-15
set 2: 10-12
set 3: 7-9
After a couple of weeks of that try doing a power week at 6-8 reps for each set. Maybe 2. Then transition into the P/RR/S template.All American EFX Rep
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01-23-2016, 12:55 PM #2759
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01-30-2016, 08:58 AM #2760
Mate what would you recommend from your experience to have been the better layout for someone looking to increase strength but more for hypertrophy? I've done 3 cycles of Power and am looking to do 3 cycles of Rep Range starting next week. So was going to run it 3P/3RR/repeat..
My split is:
Back/Shoulders/Traps
Quads/Hams/Calfs
Chest/Triceps/Biceps
Cardio/Abs
Repeat
Lifting wise i have a 130kg bench, 200kg dead and 160kg squat.
I will probably also look at starting a cut after the 3rd Rep Range session so was also curious what layout would you recommend for someone on a cut, more Power cycles, more Rep Range cycles or exactly the same as I'm currently running?
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