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    Show me a picture of a well defined muscular 4 pack.

    Come on.

    Anyone can have a 6pack if you work for it.
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    Originally Posted by swiftness_02 View Post
    dont listen to this bull**** ^



    you can work your lower abs till you're blue in the face, but if your genetics do not allow for it, then you wont be able to see the outline of them.

    also the abs that form an '8pack' are not often covered by the chest holy **** you're a dumbass.
    I'm sorry. You obviously have a huge amount knowledge of human anatomy ****ing troll and no experience in weight training, diet or anything to do with weight training.

    You can't even bench 100lbs.
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    lol at "lower abs". this is the stupidest thread i have read all day. Your entire set of abs are being worked during a decline weighted sit up. when you do hanging leg raises, you're working your hip flexors. "But I feel it in my lower abs!" you might say. Well, the Iliopsoas, which is the primary muscle used in the hip flexion, lies at the bottom of your abs, making it feel like your "lower abs" are being worked.

    having massive hip flexors serves no purpose but ruin your proportions. Which is why I lol at everyone doing hanging leg raises
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    What makes the thread so stupid?
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    ok so heres the dillemma i've got. theres people/bodybuilders, who i think we can all be pretty sure train abs enough for them to show, such as ronnie coleman-
    http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1115026845_194.jpg

    so that would kinda prove the genetics arguement. and im not gunna take the time to find before and after pictures of someone who had a 6 or 4, and built up to a 6 or an 8. either way, heres what i happen to be "stuck with"-


    any opinions?
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    abs are purely genetic the retctus abdominalas are two muscles divided by the linea alba. The number of horizontal cross sections you have is caused by a tendons that run across it and adjoin near your ribs. The number you have is genetic, you can't train to create tendons, just as you can't add muscle fibers.
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    awesome, that does make a lot of sense. if only there was still a way to tell about how many tendons i got runnin through my abs.
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    cut weight and find out, you'll know when you get cut enough, like opening a present, very slowly, lol!
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    Originally Posted by swiftness_02 View Post
    btw just because you weight as much as a teenage girl doesnt mean you're allowed to post in the teen section. gtfo.
    Wow dude. I usually don't flame or talk **** to anyone. But you really have no room to talk considering you're taller than most people here and most of us outweigh you.
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    Originally Posted by swiftness_02 View Post
    lmao
    is that really you in picture



    look at arnold pics, he had 4 other 2 wouldnt come out unless he hit like impossible bodyfat levels.
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    so i might have a 8pack gr8 to hear
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    Originally Posted by Tonybreen! View Post
    well it jus seems like there are little kids runnin around with 6 and 8 packs, and then theres ronnie coleman whose stuck with 4? i was jus curious as to how it all works, and what the norm is, if there even is one.
    ya, but none of those little kids could probably lift a third of what ronnie does for any lift
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    Originally Posted by crunchfit View Post
    I don't think you get what I'm saying.

    techanically your right but i have a 4 pac and my chest is well covering my other 2 im almost getting the other 2 cuz when you look at my stomach you can see that my abs are well developed but its just genetics i saw a guy in my school ( imm not lying ) with a 10 pac i looked at real good to make sure and i know anotha guy with a 4 pac like me but mines look better lol
    There are 8 muscles

    When all 8 are well developed but the top two just cannot be seen due to chest placement etc., that is a 6 pack.

    An 8 pack is when all 8 ab muscles are well and equally developed and the top two can be seen.

    A 4 pack is when the lower abs are underdeveloped and the top two abs cannot be seen.


    and also, I said his lower abs could be clearly seen, not an 8 pack.
    and if you read my first post I said the possibility of an 8 pack is more down to genetics than a 4 pack as a 4 pack is the result of underdeveloped lower abs.



    Basically, a 6 pack is not down to genetics, just the development of all the abs whereas an 8 pack is down to genetics.
    techanically your right but i have a 4 pac and my chest is well covering my other 2 im almost getting the other 2 cuz when you look at my stomach you can see that my abs are well developed but its just genetics i saw a guy in my school ( imm not lying ) with a 10 pac i looked at real good to make sure and i know anotha guy with a 4 pac like me but mines look better lol
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    different abs on women

    So ive noticed that there are so many different types of abs.
    some women have the blocked abs and others have ones that are just flat and kind of long if that makes sense
    and others its like theres no lines seperating one ab from another
    i see all these different types on all different types of women
    is there a way to get your desired type
    of is it kind of genetic on how they develop.
    i hope all this makes sense lol
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    Originally Posted by nachobody View Post
    So ive noticed that there are so many different types of abs.
    some women have the blocked abs and others have ones that are just flat and kind of long if that makes sense
    and others its like theres no lines seperating one ab from another
    i see all these different types on all different types of women
    is there a way to get your desired type
    of is it kind of genetic on how they develop.
    i hope all this makes sense lol
    . From my experience, yes it is possible. I don't know how many abs I have, but I've gained an extra set towards the top, and another in the middlish bottom. They need a lot more work, I never work them, but I have at least an 8 pack from belly button up. I've always been around 10-13% body fat. Try this though. Expand your rib cage, and feel your abs slide down your ribs, and in the modified position do the exercise.
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    12 pack crew checking in
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    Originally Posted by brehbrah View Post
    12 pack crew checking in
    What's up my brother?
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    What's up my brother?
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    Originally Posted by buffmouse View Post
    i think arnold had 6 jus was a little chubby there...
    sorry. arnold definitely had 4.
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    Originally Posted by Grinners View Post
    Are the responses here a joke?

    Everybody has 8, just depends on fat and their ab size how many of them show...
    everyone has the 8 tendons that make up the abdomen. genetics controls how they are aligned showing either 4,5,6 or 8 pack abs. no amount of dieting can build muscle that isnt there, only make it bigger and more defined.
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    Originally Posted by Tonybreen! View Post
    well it jus seems like there are little kids runnin around with 6 and 8 packs, and then theres ronnie coleman whose stuck with 4? i was jus curious as to how it all works, and what the norm is, if there even is one.
    your either gonna have a 4,5,6 or 8 pack. solely genetics.
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    Originally Posted by swiftness_02 View Post
    dont listen to this bull**** ^



    you can work your lower abs till you're blue in the face, but if your genetics do not allow for it, then you wont be able to see the outline of them.

    also the abs that form an '8pack' are not often covered by the chest holy **** you're a dumbass.
    someone who knows their ****. all genetics, well done mate.
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    Everyone has the muscle, just different amounts of ft over them so you cant see them.
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    Originally Posted by SkinnyBuilder View Post
    No he's right.

    Aside from miscommunication of specific muscles, me and 3dd, are saying the same thing.

    Due to genetics you can't go from a ripped 6pack to an 8pack.

    4pack to 6/8pack maybe, because the only way you really have a 4 pack is if you haven't worked abs much. I haven't seen anyone with a ripped 4 pack since its (near?)impossible to isolate such a physique.
    Arnold Schwarzenegger bro.
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    Just looked at one of those diagrams with the naked guy with no skin. Looks like 8 then 2 barely separated ones at the bottom
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    Lol.. I got more like a 7 pack (srs) I have on my left side 4 abs and on the other 3 abs and one that you can't see (maby a little ) but it's so small.. It is pretty visible becouse I have only 7-8% bf..


    Note : I'm 13 ( 14 in a month ) .. I think it's better to start bodybuilding at a young age
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