Genetics?

[hardestgainer]

Well ive been lifting for a few years and didnt really take the diet serious and still arent vey good with it, but for some reason my shoulder (mainly tapezius and lately anterior deltoid) are bigger than all my other muscles and seem to be more developed. For instance im shruging 400lb. 8 times easily (thats all i can get off the rack). But them when im on bench my max is 100lb 1 time! its so embarrasing, I work on them hard and have the correct form and have lately been switching it up. Same with biceps only can curl 50lbs.

[Bretski]

similar to me, ive seen guys that bench way way more then me, but who shoulder press less than me, can do more pullups than me but less bicep curl than me. Yes genetics is the number 1 factor in body building, but as you grow and get older you will start to get more into proportion with each body part.

[Ang.1]

are u doing your shrugs with correct form?

[coloBB]

I hate this genetics excuse people always talk about. If your bench is lagging post your workout and lets see whats wrong. And you said it yourself that you diet isn't really on par. Genetics IS NOT the number one factor in Bodybuilding, hard work and dedication IS. You must have that pro bodybuilder body stuck in your mind, because the rest of the bodybuilding world doesn't look like that. Get a clue..

[Raab]

Originally Posted by coloBB

I hate this genetics excuse people always talk about. If your bench is lagging post your workout and lets see whats wrong. And you said it yourself that you diet isn't really on par. Genetics IS NOT the number one factor in Bodybuilding, hard work and dedication IS. You must have that pro bodybuilder body stuck in your mind, because the rest of the bodybuilding world doesn't look like that. Get a clue..

well said!

[black toned]

Well benching for one targets your chest over your delts or triceps, although both used. As coloBB said, post your routine as well as your diet. Weight? Height? Etc.

[tyler_tg]

Originally Posted by coloBB

I hate this genetics excuse people always talk about. If your bench is lagging post your workout and lets see whats wrong. And you said it yourself that you diet isn't really on par. Genetics IS NOT the number one factor in Bodybuilding, hard work and dedication IS. You must have that pro bodybuilder body stuck in your mind, because the rest of the bodybuilding world doesn't look like that. Get a clue..

i agree i mean how can you actually know what your genetics are? and how they relate to being a bodybuilder its just excuses for people who dont want to bust there ass day in and day out

[hardestgainer]

Originally Posted by Ang.1

are u doing your shrugs with correct form?

ya i am......or at least the coachs have said its good form for the last year

[hendrix190]

Originally Posted by hardestgainer

ya i am......or at least the coachs have said its good form for the last year

how much do u wiegh?

[dane_517]

how old are you? 100 lbs is weak

[agency182]

yeah

[Cass]

Originally Posted by coloBB

I hate this genetics excuse people always talk about. If your bench is lagging post your workout and lets see whats wrong. And you said it yourself that you diet isn't really on par. Genetics IS NOT the number one factor in Bodybuilding, hard work and dedication IS. You must have that pro bodybuilder body stuck in your mind, because the rest of the bodybuilding world doesn't look like that. Get a clue..

You got it man. I was like this little skinny runt of a kid like 3 months ago when I started BBing, but I have been workin real hard, not drinking, keeping my diet good, and working and resting super hard. I'm starting to look pretty damn built. Also gained 17lbs in those 3 months. You just have to be dedicated. That means not skipping out on the gym too. I make sure I always go 5 days a week, no exceptions. If I'm plannin on going out with the girlfriend or something, I go to the gym earlier or later, depending on when I'm heading out. Your chest is lagging? Work it harder. Genetics is an excuse... and not a very good one.

[NotSoFamous]

Originally Posted by hardestgainer

Well ive been lifting for a few years and didnt really take the diet serious and still arent vey good with it, but for some reason my shoulder (mainly tapezius and lately anterior deltoid) are bigger than all my other muscles and seem to be more developed. For instance im shruging 400lb. 8 times easily (thats all i can get off the rack). But them when im on bench my max is 100lb 1 time! its so embarrasing, I work on them hard and have the correct form and have lately been switching it up. Same with biceps only can curl 50lbs.

Wait, so you shrug 400 Pounds, Curl 50 lbs, and max out at 100 pounds?

Yea, DEFINITELY post your routine.

And maybe u aren't hitting the muscles that assist your chest in the BP (Triceps, Deltoids)

[hardestgainer]

im 16, 135lbs. For my triceps on seated tricept extension i can do 160lb. My deltoids seem to be fine, ive always had saggy man boobs even when i was skinny. Then put on 25lbs. when i was 13. I lost most of the fat again, idk my bf% though. For my diet I try to make sure that i get in at least 135g of protein a day and try to drink water whenever I can, but besides that I pretty much dont watch it. Lately I have though, havent eaten any junk food like ice cream or pizza. And as for my routine i will try and post it tomorrow.

[bodybuilda]

wait a second he can get 400 pounds off the rack...?
so how much can u deadlift?
i can deadlift 340 but wasnt able to get 400 off the rack.
and i can barely shrug 225 with good form.

[hendrix190]

Originally Posted by hardestgainer

im 16, 135lbs. For my triceps on seated tricept extension i can do 160lb. My deltoids seem to be fine, ive always had saggy man boobs even when i was skinny. Then put on 25lbs. when i was 13. I lost most of the fat again, idk my bf% though. For my diet I try to make sure that i get in at least 135g of protein a day and try to drink water whenever I can, but besides that I pretty much dont watch it. Lately I have though, havent eaten any junk food like ice cream or pizza. And as for my routine i will try and post it tomorrow.

so u weigh 135 and u shrug 400 for 8 reps, and u bench press 100, am i reading all of this right?

[bodybuilda]

Originally Posted by hendrix190

so u weigh 135 and u shrug 400 for 8 reps, and u bench press 100, am i reading all of this right?

thats what im talking about, i can believe the max 100 bench press, because i to am weak there, but im really not feeling the 400 shurgs for 8 reps let alone him even getting it off the rack

[hardestgainer]

Originally Posted by hendrix190

so u weigh 135 and u shrug 400 for 8 reps, and u bench press 100, am i reading all of this right?

ya u r, when i work out with my classmates at school, they are just as confused! Yes its also true i CAN get 400 off the rack, i have a pretty good back, and my form is good, i have perfected it. (ya i know some ppl dont believe it can be perfect). So maybe its my bench form? when i do it i feel pressure on my elbows, is that suppossed to happen? And also when i do it, i dont feel my pecs working, its more my triceps and shoulders.

[bodybuilda]

Originally Posted by hardestgainer

ya u r, when i work out with my classmates at school, they are just as confused! Yes its also true i CAN get 400 off the rack, i have a pretty good back, and my form is good, i have perfected it. (ya i know some ppl dont believe it can be perfect). So maybe its my bench form? when i do it i feel pressure on my elbows, is that suppossed to happen? And also when i do it, i dont feel my pecs working, its more my triceps and shoulders.

wait so u can get 400 off the rack?
so again i asked earlier how much can you deadlift.
without deadlifting i dont think ur back can be that strong to handle getting 400 off the rack.

[hendrix190]

Originally Posted by hardestgainer

ya u r, when i work out with my classmates at school, they are just as confused! Yes its also true i CAN get 400 off the rack, i have a pretty good back, and my form is good, i have perfected it. (ya i know some ppl dont believe it can be perfect). So maybe its my bench form? when i do it i feel pressure on my elbows, is that suppossed to happen? And also when i do it, i dont feel my pecs working, its more my triceps and shoulders.

dude if u feel like ur workin ur triceps and shoulders too much, try a wider grip..

[hardestgainer]

Originally Posted by bodybuilda

wait so u can get 400 off the rack?
so again i asked earlier how much can you deadlift.
without deadlifting i dont think ur back can be that strong to handle getting 400 off the rack.

at deadlift i can max at 210 - 220 but i maxed out a couple months ago so its probably more now. When i get it off the rack i also try to use my legs as much as possible. my leg extension max is at 225lb. again maxed out a couple months ago.

[bodybuilda]

Originally Posted by hardestgainer

at deadlift i can max at 210 - 220 but i maxed out a couple months ago so its probably more now. When i get it off the rack i also try to use my legs as much as possible. my leg extension max is at 225lb. again maxed out a couple months ago.

this really doesnt make sense to me, again i said i can deadlift 340 but cant even get close to getting 400 off the rack from any height.
i dont know whateveer.

[RIDSTUGREAT]

To put it basic
some bodypart are stronger then others for me it;s back , sho and legs

others are much weaker

dont know if it has anything to do genetics .

[Bretski]

Originally Posted by coloBB

I hate this genetics excuse people always talk about. If your bench is lagging post your workout and lets see whats wrong. And you said it yourself that you diet isn't really on par. Genetics IS NOT the number one factor in Bodybuilding, hard work and dedication IS. You must have that pro bodybuilder body stuck in your mind, because the rest of the bodybuilding world doesn't look like that. Get a clue..

yeah i know mate, i hate the genetics escuse too, i never use it, but im just saying i know lots of people who eat 3 times less than me and still manage to put on weight quicker. There are just lots of people out there like u who have a lower metabolism who put down peopole with worse genetics and think theyre not trying their hardest when they r most probably trying as hard or harder than people with god genetics. I agree than when people give up cos of their genetics, it means theyre not determined enough, hell i put on 500g a month, eat at least 3000calories a day and im still not giving up.

so please be patient with us crappy genetics people, and dont say i dont have hard work and dedication cos i changed my whole life for body building, scocial life, work uni etc. As long as someone tries their hardest, thats all that should matter, give them some time, and if they choos enot to try their hardest, its up to them, its their own life they can choose how they want to live it.

thanks

[Bretski]

Originally Posted by Cass

You got it man. I was like this little skinny runt of a kid like 3 months ago when I started BBing, but I have been workin real hard, not drinking, keeping my diet good, and working and resting super hard. I'm starting to look pretty damn built. Also gained 17lbs in those 3 months. You just have to be dedicated. That means not skipping out on the gym too. I make sure I always go 5 days a week, no exceptions. If I'm plannin on going out with the girlfriend or something, I go to the gym earlier or later, depending on when I'm heading out. Your chest is lagging? Work it harder. Genetics is an excuse... and not a very good one.

so your the same as me probably, yet 17lbs in 3 months would be a dream for me. i get satisfaction from knowing my trying my very very best, if im a hard gainer, i look of the bright saide and say "once i reach my goal, i know ive come much firther than anyone els my size"
as long as we all try our hardest, thats all that matters, just cos u put on more weight than someonse else doesnt make u a better person, keep at it
thanks

[hardestgainer]

Originally Posted by Bretski

yeah i know mate, i hate the genetics escuse too, i never use it, but im just saying i know lots of people who eat 3 times less than me and still manage to put on weight quicker. There are just lots of people out there like u who have a lower metabolism who put down peopole with worse genetics and think theyre not trying their hardest when they r most probably trying as hard or harder than people with god genetics. I agree than when people give up cos of their genetics, it means theyre not determined enough, hell i put on 500g a month, eat at least 3000calories a day and im still not giving up.

so please be patient with us crappy genetics people, and dont say i dont have hard work and dedication cos i changed my whole life for body building, scocial life, work uni etc. As long as someone tries their hardest, thats all that should matter, give them some time, and if they choos enot to try their hardest, its up to them, its their own life they can choose how they want to live it.

thanks

well said. and i guess it is part genetics and also maybe my form on the bench. Ill try and widen my grip. I am still puzzeled on why it is like this. I wish i could post a pic but dont know how and my mom wouldnt let me. but basically my trapezius mucles are bulging out of my shirts and my arms are really skinny.

[Markjames]

Originally Posted by hardestgainer

im 16, 135lbs. For my triceps on seated tricept extension i can do 160lb.

OK. 160lbs is around 80 Kg. Ronnie Coleman can't even tricep extend 80Kg with one arm. Keep your lies more realistic in future.

[Errorist]

I can deadlift 405, I can get 435 off the rack, but I cant shrug that weight, and heres this guy 135lbs is shrugging 400 for sets of 8.

[NotSoFamous]

Originally Posted by hardestgainer

im 16, 135lbs. For my triceps on seated tricept extension i can do 160lb.

U don't to 135 lbs on Tricep Extension.

[Cass]

Originally Posted by Bretski

so your the same as me probably, yet 17lbs in 3 months would be a dream for me. i get satisfaction from knowing my trying my very very best, if im a hard gainer, i look of the bright saide and say "once i reach my goal, i know ive come much firther than anyone els my size"
as long as we all try our hardest, thats all that matters, just cos u put on more weight than someonse else doesnt make u a better person, keep at it
thanks

GOOD JOB MAN! Thats the attitude. You're gonna do fine man, keep at it. You in Perth ON?