MASS TABS - experienced people reviews

[DOMESKI]

If you have true experience with PHs or AAS and have tried IDS - Mass Tabs....
Give a detailed review of your cycle. They're getting pricey and I wanna know if they're worth it.

Two things though -
1) please no DESCRIPTIONS of stenbolone or methyl sten or superdrol/m1t cross or whatever you think they convert to in zero gravity or how they smell when you snort em with cytomel. These things arent of much importance to me.

2) if you are completely new to PHs/AAS or you gained 22 lbs in 2 weeks of mass tabs and/or halodrol and/or superdrol and/or deeznutsabolan or you are under 18 or you can't tell the difference between water weight and muscle.... please dont post your experience.

20 lbs in 9 days doesnt make me jealous it just makes me laugh. And I laugh enough these days. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[jd_ag]

Previous PH usage, Jungle Warfare, 11-OXO, Hemadrol/Propadrol.

Didn't notice much from 11-OXO, except awesome vascularity. JW and Hemadrol had too many sides, hair loss, irritiability, anti-social, test shut-down, acne, etc. I was surprised that Hema sucked so bad, it is supposed to be fairly mild. I guess everyone reacts differently.

I recently ran one box of Mass Tabs, slight strength increase, gained about 10lbs of fairly lean mass, no sides whatsoever, fealt like a beast in the gym. Hands down the best PS I have ever used. It's a shame you can no longer get it. I have an extra box I am saving, or selling if the price is right.

Any questions?

[ilalin]

I was on Mass Tabs for three 2 weeks cycles with a 4 week break in between each.
Dosage was 60 mg/day.
Gains come in fast but it's mostly water. Aromatization is heavy. Lethargy is very strong after only one week ( possible strong suppresion). Strength is very good.
If you are prone to easily losing gains post-cycle these are not for you unless
you want to kick start an 8-12 week test cycle.
Also, it seems that nobody knows what they really are. Any independant lab testing done anyone?

[Alcatraz1662]

i'm not a fan of any PHs/prosteroids/designer steroids, but the day they stopped producing mass tabs I bought up 4 boxes of it when it was 29 bucks. Patiently waiting to turn these around into $150....

yes i'm a bastard

[solidwon]

I ate them for about three weeks... the endurance and strength gains were very noticeable, side effects were completely nonexistent, weight didn't really jump although I looked somewhat bigger and leaner at the end. I imagine it would have been more interesting if I stuck with it but at the three week mark, after all the hoopla about how powerful they were, I wasn't extraordinarily impressed. This was my second hormonal product ever, first being halo.

[Blue Boogie]

I've run them thrice - once alone, once stacked with Epistane, and once stacked with Superdrol. I consider myself to be relatviely very experienced with several PS/DS/PH's. When I discuss my gains, you can safely assume that I kept the entire gain, give or take a couple of pounds. Also, I don't use Nolva - I use Novedex XT/ActivaTe Xtreme/PowerFULL as my PCT (including Cycle Support, which I like to run almost year round). Some swear by Nolva, but I only use it subsequent to a strong injectible cycle, not for these smaller-time oral cycles.

As a Mass Tabs standalone (full 30 days, 1 tab per day), I gained 12 and kept it all for at least a few months, but I normally do a strong cut after a big bulk, to try to shed fat while keeping the newly gained muscle, so that's hard to judge. As far as I can tell, I experienced no muscle loss from what I gained while on MT.

With the Epistane/MT stack, gained 15, then also did a few months of good shredding.

With the SD/MT stack, gained 12. Lethargy was high, but not intolerable.

No gyno, and liver based on ACTUAL BLOODWORK and doctor inspection was fine. Also, no shutdown to report. It can't be just me! I truly think the liver, shutdown, acne, etc. issues are grossly overexaggerated. I've put many trainees on Mass Tabs, and they too reported minimal side effects and ranges of 8 to 20 lbs. of gains from a Mass Tabs standalone cycle, even at one a day.

I don't know what it is about Mass Tabs that gives me more faith in it than superdrol, pheraplex, epistane, and everything else on the market, but in terms of benefit to risk ratio, I trust it hands down. The best gains I've gotten from an all oral cycle was Testanate50 (SD/PP/Fini, 30 days 22lb gain), but I got bloated and felt like crap. With Mass Tabs, I picked up intense gains, while simultaneously dropping a pant size.

That being said, I still wouldn't pay more than $60 for a box. Luckily, I stocked up. But if you're looking at sites for it, $60 would be the highest I'd go. For $60, you could put together a superdrol/pheraplex/trena cycle that would rock you 20lbs of muscle (not reccomending, just saying).

[v4lu3s]

I did one box of them at one pill a day. I know i had some water weight from them, but no bloating. I went from 210 to 218 in 10 days, got sick and lost 6 lbs in a weekend, then at end of cycle I was at 222. 5 weeks post cycle i am at 218 and no changes in diet at all. Only side effects were acne on my back and shoulders. No pumps, no lethargy, nothing else, absolutely no loss of libido, no mood swings or anything. I even cut PCT short to a 2 week stint since I felt nothing like i did coming off of havoc or superdrol. Strength gains were nothing spectacular. Havoc and Superdrol were much better for strength. Overall I think they rock. I had bought 2 boxes of them, the second box was used by a female I know who saw mild acne, and put on about 10 lbs in 4 weeks as well.

[catertroy08]

im in week 1 up 4 lbs and feel great

[DOMESKI]

Strange that so many people get sick during PH cycles. A true PH should should give your immune system a boost. On top of that, you should feel on top of the world, wanting to lift more, eat more, f*ck more... basically get aggressive and get more of those primal instincts. Obviously not all PH will give you that effect, but its hard for me to comprehend feeling like sh*t and why wouldn't we all wanna get on something that makes you feel good.
I'm referring to the general consensus about a PH effects, not the odd case of someones liver failing and seeing the walls melt.

GREAT reviews so far... this is what I wanted to see, more experienced users perspective on this stuff. KEEP EM COMING, I been getting a bunch of PMs asking about the true effects of Mass Tabs.

If anyone else just wants to chime in on some Trenadrol / Finigex effects as well...shoot.
Most importantly, how you would compare these compounds to the effects of real trenbolone acetate. Real Tren = Solid gains, minimal water weight, much aggression and corresponding strength gains. Chemically, Finigex is a few steps away, but trenadrol is another story.
Please only experienced users with at least a few PH cycles under your belt. If you're a 15 lbs in a week guy, please post under that superdrol rox thread. =P

[300lb10yrs]

Originally Posted by DOMESKI

Strange that so many people get sick during PH cycles. A true PH should should give your immune system a boost. On top of that, you should feel on top of the world, wanting to lift more, eat more, f*ck more... basically get aggressive and get more of those primal instincts. Obviously not all PH will give you that effect, but its hard for me to comprehend feeling like sh*t and why wouldn't we all wanna get on something that makes you feel good.
I'm referring to the general consensus about a PH effects, not the odd case of someones liver failing and seeing the walls melt.

Nah its just easier when youre goin at 125%...your overall volume and intensity increases...so you can still overtrain

[300lb10yrs]

I know sostenol 250 didnt do much for me...and I hadnt touched a prohormone or steroid in over 6yrs...IDS is a hit and miss company...I doubt if every box of sostenol,mass,ripped,oxodrol is even the same thing...I personally wouldnt trust any IDS...

[DOMESKI]

Good point on the overtraining factor. I tried sostenol 250 for about a week and a half, pretty much felt horrible the whole time so stopped. When you can use havoc which has good CNS effects and excellent muscle building qualities, I wouldnt even consider using 250 again. IDS does produce oxodrol pro (epi clone) and many people are getting it confused with oxodrol 12. Mass Tabs however... from this thread alone i'm seeing excellent reviews. That doesnt include the 5 positive PMs I was sent. Smart man buying those thangs at $30.

[DBee]

Originally Posted by DOMESKI

Good point on the overtraining factor. I tried sostenol 250 for about a week and a half, pretty much felt horrible the whole time so stopped. When you can use havoc which has good CNS effects and excellent muscle building qualities, I wouldnt even consider using 250 again. IDS does produce oxodrol pro (epi clone) and many people are getting it confused with oxodrol 12. Mass Tabs however... from this thread alone i'm seeing excellent reviews. That doesnt include the 5 positive PMs I was sent. Smart man buying those thangs at $30.

i'm on my 2nd week of havoc and just started to get some really great strength gains and pumps im doing 20/30/30/30, how'd your cycle go?

[DOMESKI]

Originally Posted by akaswolebd

i'm on my 2nd week of havoc and just started to get some really great strength gains and pumps im doing 20/30/30/30, how'd your cycle go?

Went up as high as 50mg. Great gains, no sides except aggession (good side in my opinion). Blood work was good too. I try to not use compounds that promote estrogenic side effects as I do bloat up very quickly. I don't mind most androgenic sides as long as I keep my hair and the prostate stays in check. Main problem is I have to use higher dosages to achieve the effects I want. I try to keep the total picture in mind when I decide what PH to stack for a cycle. On a growing cycle, I personally want lean and very manageable gains, increase in appetite, and a must for me is good CNS activity/aggression to hit the gym hard. Can't do those massive bulks and hope to cut down. I think most importantly you gotta mix n match, finding class I and class II compounds to combine or use a test based hormone with a 19-nortestosterone hormone and a dht based hormone. all at the lowest dose that gives you the greatest gains with the least negative sides and increase the dosage as needed.

[DOMESKI]

any more responses? thinking about a picking up a bunch at good PR. worth it?

[ilalin]

Hey,
it seems that I'm the only one that experienced aromatization with Mass Tabs but that could be because I pushed up the dosage to 60mg/day.
On the other hand, my body is very efficient in a way that it recognizes quickly that there is excess of androgens and starts converting it to estrogen.
If you're similar, havoc/epistane would probably be a better choice for you. Also, a starting BF plays a big role since ezymes necessary for aromatization of test are located largely in fat cells.

[kdog777]

A good buddy of mine who is a experienced PH/DS user. Tried them and he said he wasn't very impressed.

I would stick to SD clones. Mass Tabs are certinatly not worth the money there going for right now,

[DOMESKI]

Originally Posted by ilalin

Hey,
it seems that I'm the only one that experienced aromatization with Mass Tabs but that could be because I pushed up the dosage to 60mg/day.
On the other hand, my body is very efficient in a way that it recognizes quickly that there is excess of androgens and starts converting it to estrogen.
If you're similar, havoc/epistane would probably be a better choice for you. Also, a starting BF plays a big role since ezymes necessary for aromatization of test are located largely in fat cells.

I didnt know that ..."BF plays a big role in aromatization". Being that Mass Tabs are such a hit right now, I'm going to have my friend bring me a few boxes. Can't believe they are selling for so much on ebay and everywhere else. 60mg is 2 pills correct? I usually gotta double up on doses to feel PHs.

[catertroy08]

Originally Posted by kdog777

A good buddy of mine who is a experienced PH/DS user. Tried them and he said he wasn't very impressed.

I would stick to SD clones. Mass Tabs are certinatly not worth the money there going for right now,

i dont think you can go on one persons account. someone can react amazingly to havoc(epi) and gain 20lbs in a cycle. the same person can take sd and get no gains so it varys bro keep that in mind.

[DOMESKI]

Superdrol superdrol, I dont really see what all the hype is. I personally think most of the reviews are from beginner PH users and for a first cycle, I'd truly hope that 6-10 lbs are gained. Its a decent steroid that should offer decent gains but its far from amazing. I'd like to say I have some experience and I wasnt all too impressed with the one cycle I tried. I've also heard way too much about leaky nips and peeps going under the blade to cut out some fat titty they grew from superdrol use or from when the ended their cycle. Of course this is possible with any steroid that aromatizes or increases prolactin or isn't ceased with proper PCT, but I've heard it extensively from SD users. Although Mass Tabs is similiar by some accounts, it is a different steroid. No other company is producing it right now. Got about 12 PMs about mass tab cycles with only 2 negative responses. Everyone else has raved about. Whats the deal wiff this methylsten.
Regular sten? =

[ilalin]

From my understanding, adipose tissue in human bodies serves as an extra gonadal source of estrogens, therefore housing testosterone aromatization machinery.


Check this link

http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi/...itve potential


or read a quote from it:

Hormonal Profile in Adult Obese Males

Obese males usually express a characteristic hormonal profile described as "hyperestrogenic hypogonadotropic hypogonadism." In fact, both total and free blood testosterone levels are shown to be decreased in obese men. Total body fat, intra-abdominal fat, and subcutaneous fat have all been associated with low levels of total and free testosterone (Strain et al, 1982; Haffner et al, 1993; Tsai et al, 2004). It appears that central obesity, in particular, is associated with a decrease in circulating androgen levels. The decrease in androgen levels is proportional to the degree of obesity (Giagulli et al, 1994). In obese males, adrenal androgens are diminished as well (Tchernof et al, 1995).
The origin of hypoandrogenism in obese males is multifactorial (Table). It is primarily attributable to an increase in circulating estrogens that appear to result in relative hypogonadotropism, although the diminished levels of sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) in obese individuals will by itself result in reduced total testosterone levels, even in the face of unchanged production. In fact, weight correlates negatively with blood testosterone levels and testosterone/estradiol ratio (Fejes et al, 2006).

and the most important:
Both estrone and estradiol are increased in obese males compared to controls (Schneider et al, 1979). The aromatization of C19 androgens like testosterone and androstenedione is a key step in estrogen biosynthesis and is catalyzed by the aromatase enzyme, a product of the CYP19 gene. It is believed that the increase in estrogens in obese males is due to increased conversion of adrenal and testicular androgens owing to the increase in available aromatase enzyme in the fatty tissue (de Boer et al, 2005).

Here is the reference if you'd like to read it:

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/lin...6.2004.00397.x

[nemesisman]

i had really good gains with mass tabs and sostonol 250. However I think that the gains have been more noticeable with havoc. IMO if you want something that will be worth your dollar, go with Havoc.

[DOMESKI]

Any experienced people have feedback on methoxy trn or trenadrol? Would you go with either of these over mass tabs, comparable at all in effects? Both pretty unknown substances.

[AConrad00]

friend has his last day of mass tabs today, up 18 lbs.... probably 10lbs muscle, 6 lbs fats, 2lbs water weight

[DOMESKI]

Originally Posted by ilalin

From my understanding, adipose tissue in human bodies serves as an extra gonadal source of estrogens, therefore housing testosterone aromatization machinery.


Check this link

http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi/...itve potential


or read a quote from it:

Hormonal Profile in Adult Obese Males

Obese males usually express a characteristic hormonal profile described as "hyperestrogenic hypogonadotropic hypogonadism." In fact, both total and free blood testosterone levels are shown to be decreased in obese men. Total body fat, intra-abdominal fat, and subcutaneous fat have all been associated with low levels of total and free testosterone (Strain et al, 1982; Haffner et al, 1993; Tsai et al, 2004). It appears that central obesity, in particular, is associated with a decrease in circulating androgen levels. The decrease in androgen levels is proportional to the degree of obesity (Giagulli et al, 1994). In obese males, adrenal androgens are diminished as well (Tchernof et al, 1995).
The origin of hypoandrogenism in obese males is multifactorial (Table). It is primarily attributable to an increase in circulating estrogens that appear to result in relative hypogonadotropism, although the diminished levels of sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) in obese individuals will by itself result in reduced total testosterone levels, even in the face of unchanged production. In fact, weight correlates negatively with blood testosterone levels and testosterone/estradiol ratio (Fejes et al, 2006).

and the most important:
Both estrone and estradiol are increased in obese males compared to controls (Schneider et al, 1979). The aromatization of C19 androgens like testosterone and androstenedione is a key step in estrogen biosynthesis and is catalyzed by the aromatase enzyme, a product of the CYP19 gene. It is believed that the increase in estrogens in obese males is due to increased conversion of adrenal and testicular androgens owing to the increase in available aromatase enzyme in the fatty tissue (de Boer et al, 2005).

Here is the reference if you'd like to read it:

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/lin...6.2004.00397.x

Interesting stuff. My homie stopped by yesterday outta no-where and dropped me off 2 boxes of tabs. Shiiiiiiiiit for free.... i may just throw them into the beginning portion of my next cycle (few months down the road).
any of yall have experience with 1-test transdermal. I... i mean a friend of mine applied this morning to his chest and shoulders and washed hands 5 times. 30 minutes later washed his face and soon after felt like it was on fire. Whats the best method to keep the burning minimized. (obviously keep away from the face and eyes most importantly). I dont want to feel like the human torch again.

[Delaware_Dad]

I am coming down to week 2 now.. Up 9 lbs so far, I need to train harder. Missed 2 days.. No sides what so ever. (knock on wood) 1st PH for me. Nolva for PCT.. I have 3 more boxes, 2 JW's (old formula) and a few other types of candy.. Look'in forward to see how this goes.. Oh yeah.. dropped down in BF% too.

[DOMESKI]

So IDS is reformulating mass tabs. No clue what it'll be, but im sure they'll make a ton of sales just from the hype of the original.

*so dont get too excited when you hear about it coming back to the market.*

[Insulin Ihsaan]

Originally Posted by DOMESKI

So IDS is reformulating mass tabs. No clue what it'll be, but im sure they'll make a ton of sales just from the hype of the original.

*so dont get too excited when you hear about it coming back to the market.*

they will probolly just pack in as many of the legal phs as they can into one pill

[Owen70]

Originally Posted by DOMESKI

So IDS is reformulating mass tabs. No clue what it'll be, but im sure they'll make a ton of sales just from the hype of the original.

*so dont get too excited when you hear about it coming back to the market.*

just hope for your sake its not the bull**** "reformulation" anabolic xtreme did of superdrol

hah superdrol ng DHEA+ATD!

[ericm_2]

Ive tried three difference PH's at this point..
Sostonol - was ok, got some decent size (about 10 lbs).The strength gains were good, but not great. The only sides were feeling like ****.. was really tired the entire 3rd and 4th weeks.

Methandrol 50 - This **** sucks. did nothing for me at all.

Mass Tabs - The best by far. Good clean gains, although I only tracked about 6-8 lbs, but I looked much heavier. On my fram (currently at 5-11, 214), gaining 6 lbs is sufficient for me. The strength gains were phenomenal and I had no sides whatsoever, although I ran Liquifen, 6Oxo extreme as PCT (along with Liver longer the entire cycle to be safe).

Ive got another box of Mass Tabs and a bottle of Tren Xtreme waiting, but dont wanna take them for at least another 3-4 months.. try and stay to two PH cycles per year.