they do. haven't you heard? people in the exercise section are afraid of hard work. they'd much rather do 80 sets of curls than one set of deadlifts. 19 inches arms of non-functionnal useless cosmetic pussy ass muscle. you'd think the wannabe bbers here would follow the pros, but no, much easier to dick around with 50lbs curls all day.
i would really like to know why there is so much hate about squats and deadlifts here. just because your weak ass bone structures can't handle them doesn't mean they aren't every bit as great as everyone will tell you they are.
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12-31-2007, 10:03 AM #91
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12-31-2007, 10:09 AM #93
Haha! You made the same observation as me.
Dude, that's not it at all. People in the exercise section have been bodybuilding a while and know what works over time and doesnt. Curls, squats, bench, rows, etc. are necessary for everyone (in some variation). They especially become necessary once newb gains ware off.
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12-31-2007, 10:09 AM #94
It depends on your goals. If your goal is to build a balanced looking physique without weak points then you'll want to do direct work. How much you should do once again comes down to those goals. You can go to the other extreme and find plenty of guys in the gym who practically only train arms. Each to his own.
I've argued before that when you're starting out everything is a weak point so if your goal to get big then there's no point obsessing over the small details when what you really need to do is just pack on size all over, namely in the back, legs, chest, and shoulders. Of course if arms are clearly lagging and that bothers you then it makes sense to do more direct work which might mean an extra workout or longer workouts if you train full body or upper/lower.
Bottom line: it doesn't have to be "all or nothing."
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12-31-2007, 10:43 AM #98
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12-31-2007, 10:45 AM #99
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there is so much to say here, but I will try as hard as possible to limit it:
1. Alpha: look at your number of posts ( 22 ) and look at the number of posts of many of your detractors, but YOU are going to tell us that there is hate HERE about squats and deadlifts?? Man, are you WAY off: you are laughable here, because it is totally obvious to all the regulars and long timers that you have no ideas what you are talking about: Squats and Deadlifts have been posted on and elaborated on and praised upon endlessly on this forum. IF you were around then, you would know....
2. Why knock how someone wants to look?? If a guy is happier with a 19 inch arm that can't deadlift a ton, that is his business: we all get what we want out of lifting weights: some are more concerned about how they look, some , how strong and most of us, somewhere in the middle...again, OUR prerogatives
but no, you have elected to come plunging in, all on fire, and full of neg rep red zones and be the man......you will not last here, trust me.....
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12-31-2007, 11:43 AM #104
Um no here's the thing. My point was he said it, then asked for a specific example and he told me it wasnt about me. If it was partially about me he could have pulled an example out.
I havent given "dangerous advice", and if you think so post an example. A lot of times I'll say something and I'll get some inappropriate responses from some members which takes everything way off topic.
In the deadlift thread for example. He lifted from a platform and stalled. Then he asked if he should raise the platform. I said if increasing his deadlift is the goal to either come up with another variation or do straight deadlifts. Then I got all these responses on how dangerous that was. Yet not a single person posted a reason he should have increased the platform.
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12-31-2007, 12:11 PM #106
Let's look at it this way....
I'm a psychologist, but my speciality isn't in clinical, nor am I a licensed counselor. While my academic background has certainly exposed me to these areas, I haven't received the specialized training necessary to claim a profession in that part of the field.
Do I know enough to be able to give advice in that area and not be "wrong" in what I say? Probably. Do I have any business doing that, or is it ethical for me to do so? No. That's the difference.
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12-31-2007, 12:35 PM #116
i have several times before in other threads (like 3 in my main ab post):
Dragon Flags
L-chinups
Tuck Planche Pushups On Ground (no parallettes makes harder for full ROM):
90 pound candlesticks (this is random, just helps me be aware of my body)
Some of this comes in handy for parkour/free running training (my club)
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12-31-2007, 12:47 PM #118
thanks...yea, takes tons of muscles in your body to do it. Good test of overall body strength, doesn't matter how much you weigh. the head coach here has probably blossomed to 215-230 now and can do them still so, there should be no weight excuse that people have w/some exercises.
Very good core exercise, but your legs and arms also get a decent workout from it too
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12-31-2007, 12:51 PM #120
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ok, wait a minute.
Yes, you're strong for your weight, but you've got the arms of my brother's 98 lb girlfriend. I don't want to hear any...any more bodybuilding advice from you.
You can give advice on alternative exercises, conditioning and gymnastics.oh and gecko that link did not contain answers only the search page - swiftness_02
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