True life: I'm on steroids. Is on....

[bigmane123]

First off, those are outdated stats. I like how everyone goes straight to the bodyspace when trying to diss on someone.
Secondly, Who are you to be questioning me?
I don't have to explain myself to you.

u dont gotta explain yourself

[ekolow]

yea man you dont gotta explain yourself
If your stats are soo outdated why don't you update them, its about 3 clicks away.
You probably have so much experience with roids, HGH and PCT that it is pointless to try to make an argument against you on that subject, o wells.

[papasandbeer]

i think he said 4 45's on each side. 405 is impressive.

ya he did, and going down to 2 45's after stopping roids is way to much of a drop
**** steroids lol ide be so pissed if that happened to me. all of those people were ****ty examples of users, especially that gay guy.. sacrificing his ****ing body to workout 1 month for a goddam strip contest at a club??? he didn't even look like a roider he looked like a avg person that does some curls weekly, barely any muscle definition.

[1970gto]

yea man you dont gotta explain yourself
If your stats are soo outdated why don't you update them, its about 3 clicks away.
You probably have so much experience with roids, HGH and PCT that it is pointless to try to make an argument against you on that subject, o wells.

yo man ur huge(no homo) for a 17 year old!



keep it up ''brah''

[Smurg]

You don't use HGH for PCT. If it happens to coincide with his PCT then so be it. HGH takes continual months of use to have a substantial effect on muscle mass through hyperplasia.

And the PCT will bring your normal test levels back to normal so that you don't have estrogen rebound. Estrogen rebound will reduce your gains to zip. No PCT = Bye Gains unless you stay on year round.

Also, in before lock.

[ekolow]

yo man ur huge(no homo) for a 17 year old!



keep it up ''brah''

Im 18 in about 6 days, so ima have to bring it up another 15-20lbs to still be considered huge haha, it will happen though.

[devin45k]

lol at all of em the model guy lost alotta strength after his cycle

Even with a good pct, a lot of people lose significant strength off of their cycle.

[MidwestMonster]

yea man you dont gotta explain yourself
If your stats are soo outdated why don't you update them, its about 3 clicks away.
You probably have so much experience with roids, HGH and PCT that it is pointless to try to make an argument against you on that subject, o wells.

I don't have to, and I wont.
It's a crime if you don't update your bodyspace here? If so, ban me. (serious)

[papasandbeer]

Even with a good pct, a lot of people lose significant strength off of their cycle.

exactly why i would never do them.

[BIG RICH 23]

Even with a good pct, a lot of people lose significant strength off of their cycle.

not true

[Mansewerz]

not true

says who? you?

[_AdaM_]

Ermm some of us dont have that channel, post pic/video whatever

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[CanadaBBOY]

if that crap was tru alotta pro bodybuilders would be killin dem selves all the time cuz we all know they are like a walking pharmacy

It seems like the old school body builders/wrestlers have been dropping like flys the last few years, you just don't hear about it a lot. Steroids are dangerous and can easily shorten your lifespan.

[mattarr92]

These True Life shows are so funny, most of them live near me


the steriod guy goes to my gym, he trains people too

the toretts girl goes to a school near mine

[MidwestMonster]

It seems like the old school body builders/wrestlers have been dropping like flys the last few years, you just don't hear about it a lot. Steroids are dangerous and can easily shorten your lifespan.

The OS bodybuilders also used AAS, if you think they didn't, you're dead wrong.
They are dangerous, but I've read some where they actually increase your lifespan.

[Dave22reborn]

These True Life shows are so funny, most of them live near me


the steriod guy goes to my gym, he trains people too

the toretts girl goes to a school near mine

That torettes girl is hot.

But I have to love some of the quotes. I swear, maybe they're written into the show.

Gay Guy-the steroids took over my mind, and made me try to kill myself. It's all about the cycles baby. I'm about to go roid rage on their asses. *imagine the quotes in a gay lisp.*

Model Guy-I feel like god.

Parents-Steroids are responsible for the death of my son.

[mattarr92]

rofl, the im talking about the second torettes girl, the ugly one



gay guy with roid rage is probobly a pillow fight

[Dave22reborn]

rofl, the im talking about the second torettes girl, the ugly one



gay guy with roid rage is probobly a pillow fight

Damn, that sucks. The blonde wasn't so bad though, I can deal with her outbursts. Damn, I'm pretty shallow.

[soccergod]

I don't agree with the parents at all.
It's sad that their son died, but they can't blame steroids.
He's the one that abused and lost his life.

GOOD ****

[sikboy]

PCT isnt to keep size, its to counteract ball shrinkage, cleanse the liver, and fight the increase in estrogen levels after a cycle. Taking growth after a cycle or with one is what keeps size.

PCT is to control high estrogen with SERMS like nolva and clomid until your nat test recovers, HCG or human chronic gonadotropin is also used sometimes because the body shuts down LH that is produced by the gonadotropes in the anterior lobe of the pituitary gland, this hormone signals the testes to produce testosterone, but if you have been using androgens, there is what is called a negative feedback loop, that stops the production of LH and therefore testosterone, during this time estrogen levels spike so you need to use a selective estrogen receptor modulator or SERM like nolva or clomid, HCG gives the pituitary gland a bump start to produce LH that in turn starts the body producing normal levels of test again.

The whole point of PCT is to get your nat test to resume as quickly as possible while blocking free estrogen to keep your gains, the quicker the body jumps back to normal test production the more gains you will keep, however if heavily aromatasable steroids were used like test, drol or dbol was used then expect around 10 lbs of water weight to go rather quickly, ya cant keep water bloat after a cycle and we wouldn't want to either.
Growth hormone is an expensive waste IMO for PCT, the most anabolic component of HGH is IGF-1, now LR3 IGF-1 is far cheaper and far more powerful than HGH, HGH is not much good for like 4 weeks of PCT because it takes months for one to notice muscle growth and even then its small, the conversion of HGH to IGF-1 in the body is quite low, it is therefore much more beneficial for one to simply administer LR3 IGF-1, now that drug is recommended by most vets including me for PCT.

I have used both peptide hormones and LR3 IGF-1 is far superior to HGH and at a fraction of the cost, I have run quite a few PCT's in my time, but no longer, now im on gear 52 weeks a year.

[MidwestMonster]

PCT is to control high estrogen with SERMS like nolva and clomid until your nat test recovers, HCG or human chronic gonadotropin is also used sometimes because the body shuts down LH that is produced by the gonadotropes in the anterior lobe of the pituitary gland, this hormone signals the testes to produce testosterone, but if you have been using androgens, there is what is called a negative feedback loop, that stops the production of LH and therefore testosterone, HCG gives the pituitary gland a bump start to produce LH that in turn starts the body producing normal levels of test again.

The whole point of PCT is to get your nat test to resume as quickly as possible to keep your gains, the quicker the body jumps back to normal test production the more gains you will keep, however if heavily aromatasable steroids were used like test, drol or dbol was used then expect around 10 lbs of water weight to go rather quickly, ya cant keep water bloat after a cycle and we wouldn't want to either.
Growth hormone is an expensive waste IMO for PCT, the most anabolic component of HGH is IGF-1, now LR3 IGF-1 is far cheaper and far more powerful than HGH, HGH is not much good for like 4 weeks of PCT because it takes months for one to notice muscle growth and even then its small, the conversion of HGH to IGF-1 in the body is quite low, it is therefore much more beneficial for one to simply administer LR3 IGF-1, now that drug is recommended by most vets including me for PCT.

I have used both peptide hormones and LR3 IGF-1 is far superior to HGH and at a fraction of the cost, I have run quite a few PCT's in my time, but no longer, now im on gear 52 weeks a year.

First off, owned.
Second, good info.
Third, how ya been bro?

[sikboy]

First off, owned.
Second, good info.
Third, how ya been bro?

Been good bro, I have been researching LR3 IGF-1 more and there is a very interesting theory by a biochemist, he thinks that LR3 IGF-1 can suppress myostatin, he said he used 100 mcg ed, he had some tests done and the testers was convinced that his myostatin gene may have been mutated by LR3 IGF-1! And the suppression continued even after discontinuation of he drug!

If this is true then LR3 IGF-1 is a new breed of performence enhancer, light years ahead of steroids, it also promotes neurogenisis! Nothing on earth can do what this drug does.

Here is what he wrote:

"When I worked for a bioscience company on the study of the TGF ? family of growth factors, the research doctors there found that administration of Long R3 IGF-1 actualy had a distinct effect on AR growth, cellular hyperplasia, cellular hypertrophy, and certain MYOSTATIN activity which bordered along the lines of total suppression. They were unsure if Long R3 actualy mutated the myostatin gene, but it does have a distinct effect on your bodies TGF ? growth factors (Transforming Growth Factor family, of which myostatin is a member of). The effects are unsure, but are definitely in a positive direction.

If this is true, then it would certainly explain the freakish sizes of the Colemans and Ruhls, i have often thought that these huge bodybuilders have been suppressing the myostatin gene with some new unknown drug, the drug was known but its effects wasnt, until now.

How you been bro?

[iliketodoit]

lol at all of em the model guy lost alotta strength after his cycle

Yeah I think that was bull****, even off roids he should've been able to push up 40 pounds under his bodyweight on a seated bench press, yet he had trouble with it. We're supposed to believe that?

[derrang3d]

His "super human" strength allowed him to do 4 45's on Decline Hammer.

Wow, what an animal.

That is pretty funny.

[Mansewerz]

Been good bro, I have been researching LR3 IGF-1 more and there is a very interesting theory by a biochemist, he thinks that LR3 IGF-1 can suppress myostatin, he said he used 100 mcg ed, he had some tests done and the testers was convinced that his myostatin gene may have been mutated by LR3 IGF-1! And the suppression continued even after discontinuation of he drug!

If this is true then LR3 IGF-1 is a new breed of performence enhancer, light years ahead of steroids, it also promotes neurogenisis! Nothing on earth can do what this drug does.

Here is what he wrote:

"When I worked for a bioscience company on the study of the TGF ? family of growth factors, the research doctors there found that administration of Long R3 IGF-1 actualy had a distinct effect on AR growth, cellular hyperplasia, cellular hypertrophy, and certain MYOSTATIN activity which bordered along the lines of total suppression. They were unsure if Long R3 actualy mutated the myostatin gene, but it does have a distinct effect on your bodies TGF ? growth factors (Transforming Growth Factor family, of which myostatin is a member of). The effects are unsure, but are definitely in a positive direction.

If this is true, then it would certainly explain the freakish sizes of the Colemans and Ruhls, i have often thought that these huge bodybuilders have been suppressing the myostatin gene with some new unknown drug, the drug was known but its effects wasnt, until now.

How you been bro?

thanks sikboy, just what we needed.

Yeah I think that was bull****, even off roids he should've been able to push up 40 pounds under his bodyweight on a seated bench press, yet he had trouble with it. We're supposed to believe that?

lol who knows?

[sikboy]

I wish to elaborate some on serms like nolva and clomid to give you guys a better understanding on how they work.

A SERM is basically a weak estrogen, so weak it does not carry the side effects of the much stronger circulating estrogen that is produced by the body and that is especially high post cycle, this estrogen simply attaches its self to estrogen receptor sights, so if the weaker SERM is taking up the receptor sights, the much stronger circulating estrogen has no place to exert its effects, because the weaker estrogen has already latched on to the receptors thus rendering circulating estrogen useless!

Very fascinating drugs we have here.

[MidwestMonster]

Been good bro, I have been researching LR3 IGF-1 more and there is a very interesting theory by a biochemist, he thinks that LR3 IGF-1 can suppress myostatin, he said he used 100 mcg ed, he had some tests done and the testers was convinced that his myostatin gene may have been mutated by LR3 IGF-1! And the suppression continued even after discontinuation of he drug!

If this is true then LR3 IGF-1 is a new breed of performence enhancer, light years ahead of steroids, it also promotes neurogenisis! Nothing on earth can do what this drug does.

Here is what he wrote:

"When I worked for a bioscience company on the study of the TGF ? family of growth factors, the research doctors there found that administration of Long R3 IGF-1 actualy had a distinct effect on AR growth, cellular hyperplasia, cellular hypertrophy, and certain MYOSTATIN activity which bordered along the lines of total suppression. They were unsure if Long R3 actualy mutated the myostatin gene, but it does have a distinct effect on your bodies TGF ? growth factors (Transforming Growth Factor family, of which myostatin is a member of). The effects are unsure, but are definitely in a positive direction.

If this is true, then it would certainly explain the freakish sizes of the Colemans and Ruhls, i have often thought that these huge bodybuilders have been suppressing the myostatin gene with some new unknown drug, the drug was known but its effects wasnt, until now.

How you been bro?

That's some interesting stuff.
For people that don't know what myostatin is, it's known as GDF-8(Growth Differentiation Factor-8) that limits muscle growth. And with the use of LR3 IGF-1, this factor is shut down, allowing more often muscle growth.
And neurogenesis is the creation of neurons.

I've been good, still getting stronger.
And have been researching myself also, I've just read through the Big Cat steroid profile article, and learned a crap load, probably more than I should know at 17, lol.

[sikboy]

That's some interesting stuff.
For people that don't know what myostatin is, it's known as GDF-8(Growth Differentiation Factor-8) that limits muscle growth. And with the use of LR3 IGF-1, this factor is shut down, allowing more often muscle growth.
And neurogenesis is the creation of neurons.

I've been good, still getting stronger.
And have been researching myself also, I've just read through the Big Cat steroid profile article, and learned a crap load, probably more than I should know at 17, lol.

Ya basically it limits muscle growth, and if we could suppress the effects of this, we could grow bigger and stronger, even if we didn't work out, the suppression of this factor is the holy grail of muscle growth.

There is still a link between IGF-1 and growth of cancer, you see it is possible that IGF-1 may enter dormant cancer cells, usually the IGFBP's (IGF binding proteins produced in the body) bind excess IGF-1 up before they can enter the cells, however excess LR3 IGF-1 doesn't seem to bind well and escapes this process, so if you have cancer, do not use this drug, it will cause the cancer to grow, at what rate, I can only say at a much faster rate and that's not good.

I have much more research to do with this and other growth factors.

[LUKEDEICHER]

If Ryan ever needs information on a cycle, his former mod is the best source.

[MidwestMonster]

Ya basically it limits muscle growth, and if we could suppress the effects of this, we could grow bigger and stronger, even if we didn't work out, the suppression of this factor is the holy grail of muscle growth.

There is still a link between IGF-1 and growth of cancer, you see it is possible that IGF-1 may enter dormant cancer cells, usually the IGFBP's (IGF binding proteins produced in the body) bind excess IGF-1 up before they can enter the cells, however excess LR3 IGF-1 doesn't seem to bind well and escapes this process, so if you have cancer, do not use this drug, it will cause the cancer to grow, at what rate, I can only say at a much faster rate and that's not good.

I have much more research to do with this and other growth factors.

Besides using Testosterone to gain mass, do AIDS patients use IGF-1 also?

As do I, you've got me interested in it now.
But that's going to put on hold untill I read this 301 page document my recruiter is making me read, lol.