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    whole food is better than protein shakes

    your body cant use all of the protein in the shakes.

    A chicken breast is better than 2 scoops whey protein.

    So, to those of you that have 3 protein shakes a day. how bout 1. and some chicken
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    its better to go with whole food than shakes, shakes are extra
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    why can your body use more protein if it comes from chicken as opposed to whey?

    another angel:
    why are calories from chicken meat gonna help you gain better than calories from protein shakes?
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    not exactly sure how it works. But not all of that powder is gonna be absorbed. There was a post aboutt this in the megadosing bcaa's thread.

    Your body cant absorb all that, thats why megadosing bcaas works well. its briken down already, your body wont have to break down amino acids.

    your body is better off with whole food. not so sure about pw though.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacekilla
    your body cant use all of the protein in the shakes.
    Wrong
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    Originally Posted by lovingthepills
    Wrong
    prove that you can.
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacekilla
    prove that you can.
    Prove that you cant.
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    Originally Posted by Errorist
    Prove that you cant.

    snap!
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    ok yeah i think its clear we can disregard the oringal post. Why would your body be able to use more protein from chicken then from whey? Why would chicken be better absorbed? Chicken in the flesh of another animal while our whey powders are derived from somthing that was in a sense DESIGNED to be consumed and utilizted by an organism.
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    'tis true.

    Real food > liquid calories
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    ur best bet is to do both, take whey protein, and eat food, one of them will get absorbed right?
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    i have nothing against whole food, but whey protein has higher bioavailability than any whole food (to include eggs, which are basically second). chicken isnt a better protein source and your not going to absorb more protein from chicken than from whey.
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    Thanks for telling us the obvious, but nobodys stopping me from drinking my 22 ounce protein shake in 30 seconds!
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    Originally Posted by logester
    Thanks for telling us the obvious, but nobodys stopping me from drinking my 22 ounce protein shake in 30 seconds!
    I prefer to sip on my protein shakes and swoosh them around in my mouth like a fine wine. I dont spit though, I swallow. (Thats what she said. )
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacekilla
    your body cant use all of the protein in the shakes.

    A chicken breast is better than 2 scoops whey protein.

    So, to those of you that have 3 protein shakes a day. how bout 1. and some chicken
    3 shakes is ok, but i think what you should be saying is use shakes as a supplement to your diet. and not use whole food as a supplement to shakes
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    Originally Posted by logester
    Thanks for telling us the obvious, but nobodys stopping me from drinking my 22 ounce protein shake in 30 seconds!
    yea the whey i drink is pretty nasty so i try to get it down as fast as possible
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    Originally Posted by jack_of_all
    i have nothing against whole food, but whey protein has higher bioavailability than any whole food (to include eggs, which are basically second). chicken isnt a better protein source and your not going to absorb more protein from chicken than from whey.
    Correct! And to the original poster, I drink three shakes a day... but I'm also eating 4 or 5 whole food meals as well. The shakes are an easy and efficient way to get enough protein in one's diet.
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    Originally Posted by SinewySam
    why can your body use more protein if it comes from chicken as opposed to whey?

    another angel:
    why are calories from chicken meat gonna help you gain better than calories from protein shakes?
    Scientists still havent figured out what chemicals make up food.

    Its made by nature the ultimate chemical factory, so our body reacts to very strongly
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    Hm.. pull out my george foreman, some raw chicken breasts and unplug the locker room blowdryer or shake some water and whey?

    I'll take my nasty protein shakes. Easy and convenient.
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    I'm taking in 4000 calories a day (3 of my meals being liquid) There's no way in hell I could stomach 4000 calories of all solid food. Shakes are just as effective in my book and are much needed.


    Example: I'll eat 1/2 cup oats, yogurt, 2tbsp PB, 8 0z milk for my first meal. Now picture your stomach as a blender, all those acids breaking apart the food eventually resulting in a molch. IT'S ALL THE SAME WHEN IT'S IN YOUR STOMACH. But i do not recommended blending some chicken breast in a shake, some things should just be left solid

    Also no one makes all their meals liquid, gotta mix it up a few here a few there, but generally when one goes to eat he or she will eat a solid meal. Drink liquid ones when you gotta. At 9m and 10pm my stomach is shot so i take in liquid meals to ease the workload on my stomach.
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    you can just put the chicken in a blender, and make it into a shake!
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    I wasnt planning on responding to this thread again, but I was thinking about this at work today and how can a solid food be better then a liquid food? The liquid is already broken down more then the solid so your body has less work to do. Theres a higher chance that more of the protein from the liquid will be used over the solid becuase your body has to first break the solid down, then pick through it and determine what is protein and what isnt, while the liquid is already broken down and most of it is protein. The liquid will be processed much quicker and will be more efficient at providing protein.

    Conclusion: Liquid > solid.

    I'd say dont neglect either though. Everything needs balance.
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    Well, the thread starter hasn't said it in the best word but I agree that if 50% of your daily protein source come from shake, you have huge problem with your diet.
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    i get most of my protein from shakes and eggs and my meals are mainly carbs.i dont see any problem aslong as your getting your daily requirement of protein and calories it dosnet really matter where they come from.what ever is easier and cheaper is the way to go
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    Meh, Im sticking to my protein shakes... I cant afford to buy Chicken breasts anymore unless my mom is cooking it for dinner...

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    Originally Posted by ghostfacekilla
    prove that you can.
    You started the thread. You came up with this "brilliant" assertation you are the one who should be proving things. So far you've posted zero articles, zero references and zero scientific studies. Just a bunch of spelling and grammatical errors. How about you come back when you actually have something to back up this crap-ass theory of yours.
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    Originally Posted by hendrix190
    ur best bet is to do both, take whey protein, and eat food, one of them will get absorbed right?
    lol, you funny.
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    I laughed at this post. This is coming from the guy whos mom won't let him buy whey so now he's pretending it sucks.
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    ^^Man that's exactly what I thought too!!

    Another thing..Someone said..'Scientists still havent figured out what makes up food'

    Which year are you living in?? Here's a chain that might let you know something about food. My example here is chicken flesh,ok?

    Our Mouth<---Chicken flesh<---Proteins,Fats<---Carbon,Nitrogen,Oxygen,Hydrogen,Sulphur<---Obtained from digestion of their nutrition<---Plants/Grains<---Sunlight+Chlorophyll=Plant Sugars<---Atmosphere

    This maybe somewhat haphazard,but I think it gives you a picture of how it all is done. Chicken breast is made up of proteins and fats,which are made up of C,H,O,S and N..These chemicals are obtained from the food they eat,such as grains. Grains are made up of the same C,H,O,N and S..These nutrients come from photosynthesis and N comes from the atmosphere.

    It's quite simple when you look at it.

    Secondly,when you say the protein from a protein shake isn't absorbed,you're wrong. There is one main reason to this. Do you remember how digestion takes place? When the the absorption of food takes place through the Villi, it absorbs the important nutrients only. Remember that much? So,no matter what form of protein it is, it will only be absorbed when it is needed by the body. Otherwise,say hello to urea. It doesn't matter what form of protein it is. What matters is if it is needed by your body,or not.

    A second minor reason as to why protein from shakes do get digested is that the protein in a protein shake is protein after all. The protein they use in the powder is not something that is made in the lab. It is an extraction. Those that are made in the lab are rarely bought,and rarely liked,because all of lifters know how bad synthetic material can get for us. So,while you may feel a chicken breast is better,keep in mind that the protein in a protein shake is the same that is in the chicken breast at times, only in the protein shake you dont need to care about the fats; or bird flu,in today's date.

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    Originally Posted by mark88
    I laughed at this post. This is coming from the guy whos mom won't let him buy whey so now he's pretending it sucks.
    So that explains it! It's the Freudian Defense; "If I can't have it, it must not be good." What an idiot.
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