Let's say your rep range is 6-10, and you get 6 reps for any given exercise, and cannot do anymore. How long before you can get 7, then 8, 9, and then 10? Is it about 2 weeks per rep?
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11-18-2005, 07:54 PM #1
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How long does it take to gain a rep?
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11-18-2005, 08:39 PM #3
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Well yes, good form is imperative. After all, if you don't stimulate the muscles correctly, they won't grow, even if you do rest enough, and without growth, there will be no super-compensation for strength and size. That being said, I use perfect form, and rest each bodypart for at least 4-5 days between training sessions. However, my deadlift and bench have been stuck at the same weight, same reps for about 4 weeks now.
My bench has been stuck at 205 x 4, sometimes I'll get 5 with a tiny bit of help from my spotter.
As for my deadlift, it's been at 375 x 6 for some time now as well. I kinda go up and down with this, sometimes my deadlift will drop to 345 or 355, I think because on some days, I just don't feel like a beast...lol.
Should I change things up? Or give it more time?The Chronicles of Gibblets
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I've been "lifting" ever since I was 18, but sadly, I had no grasp for proper training or nutrition, so I weighed the same and made very, very little newbie gains until a few months after I turned 20! So basically, I've been lifting and eating properly for almost 1.5 years.
I do not bench and dead on the same day. My diet and supplementation program is not an issue, believe me.The Chronicles of Gibblets
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11-18-2005, 09:27 PM #10
Sounds like you need to scrap what your doing and start over. With only 1.5 years of training you should be making more progress. From your dead lift it sounds like you are strong,it may be that you need to change things around.
Before recomending a book for you, what is your fitness goals (power lifting , bodybuilding,,ect)
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11-19-2005, 05:28 AM #15Originally Posted by trem0lo
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11-19-2005, 05:49 AM #16
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Originally Posted by Gibblets
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Originally Posted by Mike750The Chronicles of Gibblets
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11-19-2005, 08:55 AM #19
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Originally Posted by Gibblets
I'll use my deadlift as an example ( because it's my strongest lift and I'm less embarrased about the weight I use).
Let's say I do a set of deads at 225 and get 10 reps. I believe it would take less of a strength gain (although a gain nonetheless) to get the 11th rep than if I do 315 for four reps and next time try to get five, just because of the sheer amount of weight being used. Usually greater weight means slightly slower reps which uses more energy. Hope this helps.
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11-19-2005, 09:02 AM #20
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11-19-2005, 12:56 PM #22
If I am stuck doing the same weight for the same reps for 2 weeks I always change something. Either move to a different exercise (like going from regular bench to decline or close grip) change the exercise slightly or change the rep range.
You need to do what you can to incourage positive adaptions, going and doing the same exact thing every week isnt going to incourage greater adaptions."Leave the pump in the bedroom and add some damn weight to the bar" - Dave Tate
"Train for strength, eat to grow and you will get bigger and stronger" - Someone bigger and stronger then me
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11-21-2005, 06:27 PM #23
rep ranges
Gibblets: Lower reps equal strength gains more then size. Midrange reps 6-8 are a balance between strength and size. High range reps 9-12 equal size over strength. Reps higher then 12 are questionable.
The rep ranges you use are for strength not size there for you need more recovery time. Your body responds to low reps by auberizing (sp) nerves, this allows more muscle fiber to fire at the same time. This process can take up a month; it all depends on how much neural tissue has to grow.
I would recommend that you increase your rep range into the 8- 10 range this will allow you to gain in rep number faster. I would however recommend you track weight instead of reps since after 12 reps you are doing little for muscle growth or strength.
Think about it for a minute if you gained 2 reps every week you would in one year have a 100 rep per set work out. This range would be pure aerobic.
This is why I asked what you want from weightlifting. You need to decide what you want then build your routine around that goal.
If you want strength then low reps high weight long rest between sets is the majority of your work out. If you want size then higher reps is what will dominate your work out.
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