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    Creatine before or after workout?

    I was always under the impression that creatine was to be taken before your workout...yet a lot of products now (such as the BSN mass stack which i recently began) say to take it after your workout...does creatine do more good if you take it before or after your workout? Or before and after?

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    Originally Posted by YoTRacer158
    I was always under the impression that creatine was to be taken before your workout...yet a lot of products now (such as the BSN mass stack which i recently began) say to take it after your workout...does creatine do more good if you take it before or after your workout? Or before and after?
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    ok so I'm currently on the BSN Mass stack and will be switching over to Green Bulge/White Blood when the BSN stuff is out...Cellmass says to take it after workout, should I just take another scoop of it before workout as well? Green Bulge says take 5 caps before workout, should I pop another 5 after or something else?

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    Originally Posted by YoTRacer158
    ok so I'm currently on the BSN Mass stack and will be switching over to Green Bulge/White Blood when the BSN stuff is out...Cellmass says to take it after workout, should I just take another scoop of it before workout as well? Green Bulge says take 5 caps before workout, should I pop another 5 after or something else?
    I would pick up a cheap Creapure monohydrate or bulk cee powder for postworkout.
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    If its the loading cycle I think its good to take it throughout the day. Otherwise I usually take a nitric oxide that has about 2 grams in it pre-workout and then take 3-5 grams of regular creatine after workout. But to honest with you I definately think that its more important to take proteing immediately after workout and then I usually wait some to take my creatine.

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    Originally Posted by gbtraditions
    If its the loading cycle I think its good to take it throughout the day. Otherwise I usually take a nitric oxide that has about 2 grams in it pre-workout and then take 3-5 grams of regular creatine after workout. But to honest with you I definately think that its more important to take proteing immediately after workout and then I usually wait some to take my creatine.
    I actually do the same exact thing.

    One thing i am interested in is? Why would creatine moonhydrate is better for after the workout?

    I would think that the new ethly ester's are better after the workout becuase fom what i have read they transport the creatine into your body faster and more efficently (also good for sensitive stomachs)

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    Originally Posted by BigmansM
    I actually do the same exact thing.

    One thing i am interested in is? Why would creatine moonhydrate is better for after the workout?
    Personal choice/ size of wallet. Beside Pu12en12g waid Monohydrate or bulk CEE powder. I would take it one step and say micronized monohydrate or bulk CEE powder.

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    Should I Be Consuming Creatine On Off Days? I Currently Take On Creatine Powder Creapure 5g's 2wice Daily (pre Workout & Pwo.) So My Question Is Should I Keep My Tanks Full And Take Creatine On Off Days As Well? 2wice Or Just Once? Thanks
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    Originally Posted by sothrowedmex
    Should I Be Consuming Creatine On Off Days? I Currently Take On Creatine Powder Creapure 5g's 2wice Daily (pre Workout & Pwo.) So My Question Is Should I Keep My Tanks Full And Take Creatine On Off Days As Well? 2wice Or Just Once? Thanks
    Yes, definately take creatine on off days! On off days I'd only take one scoop or about 5g's. I personally think that if you take 10 g's or two scoops on your workkout days is too much. I only take one scoop (total) a day which for me is 5.25 g's. I also take a Nitric Oxide which I think has 2 g's in it. So that puts me at 7.25 g's and some people say anything over 5 g's is a waste and I've heard others say anything over 10 g's a day is a waste. So I keep that number inbetween and at 5 g's on my non workout days!
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    creatine

    hey, sorry i can't verify this information with an article but you might want to look into it. i read this somewhere on BB.com.

    According to what i read, you don't really need to cycle creatine or take it every day as long as you are consistently consuming it around your workouts. Your creatine levels reach a maximum level after a loading phase and your body wont absorb any extra. The continued intake is just to maintain this maximal level of creatine. Apparently when you start taking creatine and reach this maximal level, your body stops its natural production of creatine. It resumes the natural process as soon as you go off the .
    Like i said, this is just a paraphrase of something i read, not anything i am an authority on.

    personally, i think that the supplement companies just want to sell more stuff so they tell us all to take way more of this stuff than your body really needs! (don't get me wrong, i'm a big fan of 4000+ calories and tons of protien but not tons of expensive chemicals)
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    What nitric oxide supplement has 2g of creatine? I take no-xplode and I'm not sure how much if any creatine is in it.
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    Post workout

    is it OK to add creatine to your post workout protein shake or do they need to be consumed separately?

    Cant find anything on this using the search function.

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    I take CE2 2 in AM and 2 before workout.
    Then Celltech post workout for the added glucose, creatine, and alpha lipoic acid.
    This works extremely well for me.

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    Concave chest

    i was born with a concave chest and over the years its been gradually getting deeper. i was just wondering if anyone else has this same problem??

    and also how do you deal with it, like does working out affect it?

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    Originally Posted by Heartless
    i was born with a concave chest and over the years its been gradually getting deeper. i was just wondering if anyone else has this same problem??

    and also how do you deal with it, like does working out affect it?
    I have the same thing...I'm 21. I haven't done anything about it, I don't think there's much you can do... I'd like to hear more about this topic tho from someone with more knowledge...

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    do u think doing chest excersizes make it worse?

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    Not really...I'm only 5'9, 175 lbs and I rep 265 so my chest is rather developed but I still have that gaping hole-like gap inbetween my two pecs. Does it make it 'worse', I dunno...all in the eye of the beholder...it def. makes the concavity look deeper but it also makes your pecs look bigger

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    my cousin had surgery to correct this.

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    Just thought I would post a little medical tidbit for you from Rudolph's Pediatric's:

    "PECTUS EXCAVATUM Also called funnel chest, pectus excavatum is the depression of the midsternum. This chest wall malformation may be congenital, familial, or acquired. The etiology of congenital pectus excavatum is not well understood. In Marfan syndrome, the suspected etiology is a defect in osteogenesis and chondrogenesis resulting in the midportion of the sternum becoming misaligned. Acquired pectus excavatum can occur in infants with bronchopulmonary dysplasia and in young children with chronic and severe airway obstruction.
    Pectus excavatum alone generally does not cause significant cardiac or respiratory dysfunction either at rest or during exercise. Mitral valve prolapse may be present. Moderately severe pectus excavatum shifts the heart leftward and narrows the anterior-posterior diameter of the chest; when this occurs, a chest radiograph will depict the normal right hila of the lung, and the patient may be misdiagnosed as having an acute pneumonia. Cardiac function is usually normal at rest. Alterations in cardiac function have been reported in adults with pectus excavatum, but only during strenuous exercise. Spirometry is usually normal unless there is underlying lung disease.
    Surgical candidates include individuals with pectus excavatum who have an associated thoracic scoliosis. Correction of the sternum will result in correction of the scoliosis. However, the most common reason for repair is to improve the appearance of the chest wall. Published data generally do not demonstrate physiological improvement in lung function after repair, but a few studies suggest that pectus repair may result in a modest improvement in cardiac output or exercise tolerance."

    I'm not saying you definitely have pectanus excavanatum but it is worth knowing about; if your doctor has said nothing then it is probably nothing to worry about. I just think it's nice to know what's up.
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    There is the skinny kid in my school that has it and it is really really deep.

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    thanks dave, your comment has made it a little clearer now. i think i have pectus excavatum, the things you said seem true. and also i have had pneumonia twice, so maybe it was what you said.

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    Originally Posted by Heartless
    thanks dave, your comment has made it a little clearer now. i think i have pectus excavatum, the things you said seem true. and also i have had pneumonia twice, so maybe it was what you said.
    no prob, I'm glad to help Next time you see your doc ask him/her about it and see what he/she says.
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    When I was in high school there was a dude with this problem. His ribs were dangerously growing inwards and he had to have them cut out. So until his ribs grew back, or whatever he was having done to replace them, his internal organs were vunerable, so you couldn't go up to him and slap him in the chest, like you do messin around with other dudes. Poor dude!

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    I had surgery when I was like 10... I always had a concave chest that they said I would either need surgery (breaking the sternum I think?) or I would never be able to be active - stuck in a desk job etc. My parents gave me the choice and I chose to have surgery... painful recovery but well worth it.
    Anyhow, it hasn't gotten deeper, and a couple years ago I decided to join the gym... the first pic I was 6'3" 143.... the second pic is at 176... my chest has filled out quite a bit, if I'd known I could change the appearance of my chest that much, I would have started LONG ago... doctors always told me nothing would change it... so i never considered working out. Sorry I don't have a recent front relaxed picture for comparison, I'll work on that
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    I have it. It made it tough growing up and some people will look at you funny when you are at the beach. I did consider having surgery but passed up on it... I guess it is about a 6 month recovery, the first few weeks of which is spent in a bed.
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    lol, i have definitely had my share of people looking at me funny when my shirit is off, and one comment my friend made when he first saw it was "where is your heart? does it come out on the other side?" haha i thought it was hilarious, thats why i made my name heartless.

    yea, my doctor has told me all about the operation and says that the recovery time is long and you cant really do anything while recovering, but he also said that i wont really need to have it unless it gets really bad, like if it affects my breathing alot and stuff.

    well its nice to hear that there are a number of other people that have this and have experienced this.

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    Originally Posted by brianphi
    I had surgery when I was like 10... I always had a concave chest that they said I would either need surgery (breaking the sternum I think?) or I would never be able to be active - stuck in a desk job etc. My parents gave me the choice and I chose to have surgery... painful recovery but well worth it.
    Anyhow, it hasn't gotten deeper, and a couple years ago I decided to join the gym... the first pic I was 6'3" 143.... the second pic is at 176... my chest has filled out quite a bit, if I'd known I could change the appearance of my chest that much, I would have started LONG ago... doctors always told me nothing would change it... so i never considered working out. Sorry I don't have a recent front relaxed picture for comparison, I'll work on that
    Hahaha...that second pic is funny with your cat. My little dog does the same exact thing to me. Sits on my chest and his one paw goes in the indention in my chest.

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    I actually have the opposite problem. One side of my chest sticks out farther than the other. Doc said theres not much to do about it, said the only way to make it look better was to work out, so thats what ive done. Also, he did mention something about the only way to fix it was breaking my chest, and pieceing it back together, but i thoguht that was alittle extreme for somehting that didnt cause to many problems, all though i used to get alot of questions about it but now my g/f says you cant even notice it. So im happy i guess.

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    I've got it to (The inward one) Don't know if i'll ever get surgeory to fix it, i hate it but i'm scared of being cut open more.

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    check out Marfans syndrome

    If you are also tall and thin then look into marfan syndrome

    http://www.marfan.org/nmf/index.jsp

    since a concave chest is one of the symptoms. Marfans syndrome
    becomes a concern later in life since it greatly increases the chances
    that you could develop an aneurism and die suddenly. If you have
    Marfans you probably should not lift weights. And a concave chest
    does not necessarly mean you have marfans.
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