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Thread: whats your take on gun control?
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09-13-2005, 10:24 AM #1
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09-13-2005, 10:29 AM #2Originally Posted by Schfifty FiveThis account was created for the purpose of roleplaying and satire. All posts, messages, images, or other media produced by this Bodybuilding.com profile, including stories, names, references to characters and incidents, and views expressed, are fictitious and intended as parody. No identification or association with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, or products is intended or should be inferred.
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09-13-2005, 10:31 AM #3
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09-13-2005, 10:34 AM #4
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09-13-2005, 10:54 AM #5
Gun control keeps guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens and doesn't stop criminals. I'm firmly against most of it. Just make sure that when someone picks up a gun they're OK.
JUSAAll truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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09-13-2005, 11:00 AM #6
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09-13-2005, 11:09 AM #7
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09-13-2005, 11:12 AM #8
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09-13-2005, 11:13 AM #9
Most violent crimes in the US (or anywhere) are committed by the poor on the rich, right? So what you need (as Chris Tucker or whoever it was said) is BULLET CONTROL. Raise the price on bullets to skyrocketing levels, that way anyone who is shot will obviously deserve it, thus increasing the number of police freed for other investigations (like school shootings).
Of course, the problem is that many of the "rich", I'd imagine, would in fact just be the industrious members of the working class, who have property to defend but not enough money to get a hold of the bullets. That's the sticking point for the (comedy) theory."... like a spring storm in an eastern wind, retiring only to return with more fury."
- James Hogg
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09-13-2005, 11:18 AM #10
Gun control is a waste of time, money and energy just so certain democratic congressmen (and women) can pass feel-good legislation that realistically does nothing but make them look like they are actually doing something beneficial for the citizens of the US when they are actually disarming law abiding citizens.
That's just my take on it, though.
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09-13-2005, 11:28 AM #11Originally Posted by The KurganVote the b**** out
"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe."
11/18/93
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban,
picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,
"I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."
--U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), CBS-TV's "60 Minutes," 2/5/95
FYI she had a Concealed Carry Permit because she fears being attacked.
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09-13-2005, 11:32 AM #12
These baby steps that are being taken by the government will lead to gun control. They look much further into the future. I can already see the changing in attitudes of school age people. Actually alot of it started with Columbine. I cant see it happening in my lifetime but it sure seems like we're headed in that direction.
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09-13-2005, 11:33 AM #13
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09-13-2005, 01:03 PM #14Originally Posted by Diesel66
In the UK, it took ONE, just ONE, school shooting not far from where I live for our guns to be taken away. Previously, we'd had little problem with handguns, and country people like myself were quite found of hunting with weapons other than shotguns."... like a spring storm in an eastern wind, retiring only to return with more fury."
- James Hogg
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09-13-2005, 01:07 PM #15Originally Posted by The Kurgan
If I can get steroids shipped to my house from an international source, how difficult do you think it would be to get ammunition?This account was created for the purpose of roleplaying and satire. All posts, messages, images, or other media produced by this Bodybuilding.com profile, including stories, names, references to characters and incidents, and views expressed, are fictitious and intended as parody. No identification or association with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, or products is intended or should be inferred.
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09-13-2005, 01:10 PM #16
Owning a gun should be just as hard, if not harder then getting a driver license.
7 day waiting period. Give me one good reason you need a gun, RIGHT NOW.
I have no problems with handguns, shotguns, etc..., but why is the NRA against banning assault weapons. You don't hunt with them, they are only for one reason.
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09-13-2005, 01:18 PM #17Originally Posted by The Kurgan
Side benefits include hunting and the sport of target shooting.Vote the b**** out
"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe."
11/18/93
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban,
picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,
"I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."
--U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), CBS-TV's "60 Minutes," 2/5/95
FYI she had a Concealed Carry Permit because she fears being attacked.
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09-13-2005, 01:19 PM #18Originally Posted by stlcards
I own two assault rifles and four handguns. Not ONE of my guns is chambered in a round effective for hunting.
You want to know why?
I don't hunt.
Everything I own is intended to be used on people.
In the second amendment, it doesn't say "the right to bear HUNTING firearms shall not be infringed", it says the "right to bear arms"...not little arms, not hunting arms, not your daddy's shotgun arms. Arms.
I don't have my guns in case I need to shoot a deer.
I have my guns in case I need to shoot a person. Note: NEED to shoot a person. Not "want to shoot"...NEED to shoot.This account was created for the purpose of roleplaying and satire. All posts, messages, images, or other media produced by this Bodybuilding.com profile, including stories, names, references to characters and incidents, and views expressed, are fictitious and intended as parody. No identification or association with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, or products is intended or should be inferred.
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09-13-2005, 01:23 PM #19Originally Posted by stlcards
Give me a good reason why I cannot take my firearm home now ? Background check came back clear. I paid for it.Vote the b**** out
"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe."
11/18/93
"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out right ban,
picking up every one of them... "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,
"I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."
--U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), CBS-TV's "60 Minutes," 2/5/95
FYI she had a Concealed Carry Permit because she fears being attacked.
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09-13-2005, 01:43 PM #20
"Guns aren't toys. They're for self-protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the King of England outta your face!"
- Krusty the Clown.In 1945, Adolf Hilter died and went to Hell. Satan asked, "why are you in Hell?" He replied, "I am responsible for the massacre of millions" Satan said, "well done, sit to the right of my throne." In 1953, Joseph Stalin died and went to Hell. Satan asked, "why are you in Hell?" He replied "I killed millions to stay in power" Satan said "good, sit to my left" 2010, Ronnie James Dio died and went to Hell, Satan asked, "why are you in Hell?" Dio replied, "Bitch, get the fuk off my throne!"
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09-13-2005, 02:58 PM #21Originally Posted by The Kurgan
Of course it sounds like something Chris Rock would sayTrain safe,
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09-13-2005, 03:02 PM #22
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09-13-2005, 03:32 PM #23Originally Posted by stlcards
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."Train safe,
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09-13-2005, 03:55 PM #24
I believe if you can find the money to purchase an Tank or F-16, then damnit you should be able to make that purchase...
The 2nd Ammendment shouldnt have restrictions, just like the first Ammendment should have restrictions...What if we start putting restrictions on ALL the ammendments???Bozz died on the cross for your sins.
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09-13-2005, 04:05 PM #25
Gun Control Laws are extremely effective - when viewed in the imaginary world of emotion and theory.
Real world experience shows a consistent INCREASE in crime when the option of self defense is removed from law abiding citizens.
It's amazing that so many people are so willing to ignore documented FACTS and just let their emotions run wild. If you want to give into criminals, that's your decision. But don't force your idealistic views of the world onto me and my Glock 29.
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09-13-2005, 04:48 PM #26
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09-13-2005, 04:52 PM #27
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09-13-2005, 05:15 PM #28Originally Posted by stlcards
2 - Just based on that "assault weapons" statement, you're just another victim of media hype. Assault weapons are no more, and are typically less, powerful that your standard hunting rifle. They are not automatic, despite what Dianne Feinstein says. They are just black and "scary" looking. Uh-oh, better ban them!Last edited by darkline; 09-13-2005 at 05:18 PM.
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09-13-2005, 07:17 PM #29
if guns made america safe, then we would be the safest country in the world...but the exact opposite is true, we are the deadliest. the counter-argument is Canada and Switzerland(it might be sweden, i don't know). these countries have a significant number of registered gun-owners, but they are incredibly safe.
It comes down to this, America is fascinated with money and power. It's at the root of our culture. Materialism, desires, and money seems to be so important to so many americans. In fact over 80% of murders are over money! Other countries are more liberal than America, especially in western Europe. Theres no fear there, people are just less fascinated with the love of money than Americans are. That is why Guns are dangerous in the U.S.and should be illegal.
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09-13-2005, 07:21 PM #30
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