TNASTY's journey to gettin big

[TNASTYII]

well, yes i am 18 posting a journal in the over 35, but i know there are so many experienced guys here that it would do me some good.
hopefully ill have some readers :]
today is chest, shoulders and arms. i post weight and reps when i come back from the gym.
i had about 8 1/2 hours of sleep. yesterday night i slept well over 10 1/2 hours. haha. tuesday was legs and i was absolutly exhausted, and i never sleep over 9 hours, atleast not that often.

my diet is fairly clean. i control what i eat except dinner(mom always cooks dinner) and i pressure here to fix healthy stuff. haha. i work out four days a week. back, upperbody(chest shoulders and arms), legs, and the fourth day is another upperbody to catch it up. mind you i do have appropriate rest days inbetween i just tend to switch up my days sometimes so i wont put them in stone now.

well ill be heading to the gym in a couple of hours.

currently using:
gnc mens gold multi
ON Whey
CL GreenMAG
and AN's RPM

[Hibiscus09]

If you hit edit on one of the first posts in the threads you can delete one of your threads -- I notice you accidentally posted two.

I'm not sure if they'll let you keep a journal here or not given your age, but just in case -- welcome!! I know my son is mature enough (he's 17) that he would fit in much better in this section than others. Good luck to you.

[TNASTYII]

thats one of the reasons i posted here. theres more respect here than in the teen section. i hope they let me.

took care of the extra thread. haha. thanks for pointing that out

[TNASTYII]

im always drinkin lots of water throughout the day(like i should be) just as a side note
apon waking:
8:45
bowl of cheerios in skim milk(gotta have these. its just a ritual to eat cereal in the morning for me). whey shake in skim milk

10:20(pre workout)
3 whole eggs, 1 egg white, and 2 pieces of liver mush, skim milk to drink
(gonna have another shake with half cup of old fashion oats in a few mins before going to work out, and a banana)

[justtryn]

Originally Posted by TNASTYII

10:20(pre workout)
3 whole eggs, 1 egg white, and 2 pieces of liver mush, skim milk to drink
(gonna have another shake with half cup of old fashion oats in a few mins before going to work out, and a banana)

LIVER!??! Oh dude... I think I'm gonna be sick.

[IronIc]

Welcome to the board of sanity!!!!!

[eddied27]

If a mod decides his journal doesn't fit here given it's the Over 35, might I suggest moving it over to Workout Journals.

No slight on the Teen section. I don't know the Teen section well enough to comment on how serious folks are over there.

TNASTY reached out to me through PM's and he appears sincere in his quest which is why I think he'd benefit from the Workout Journals section........if in fact you decide to move him from the Over 35.

Thanks.......keep training T!

Ed

[Tifflex]

Good luck TNASTY!

[TNASTYII]

haha. maaaan, my parents got my hooked on liver mush. i really cant eat eggs without it haha.

heres my workout today!
TT = this time
LT = last time
SS = super set
yes, my chest/shoulders is NOT my strong point haha

Flat Bench Press
LT
95x15
135x8
160x6
155x4
135x6
135x6
TT
95x15
95x10
165x4
135x8
140x8
155x5

Incline DB Presses
LT
35x8
35x8
40x6 (my chest was toast)
TT
40x8
45x8
50x8 (chest is feeling GOOD)

Cable Chest Press
LT
40x8
50x9
60x9
TT
50x9
70x7.75 (haha)
60x7.75 (chest is def done now)

Shoulder Press Machine
LT
20x15
50x8
65x8
TT
30x12
50x8
80x7.5
80x4 (let shoulder pain, first time this has happened)

DB Lat Raises/Front Raises - SS
LT
15x8 / 10x8
15x8 / 10x8
TT
15x8 / 10x8
15x8 / 10x8

Bicep Preacher Curl Machine/Tricep Machine - SS
LT
65x12 / 80x12
80x8 / 95x8
95x8 / 110x8
110x8 / 95x10
TT
65x12 / 65x12
80x8 / 80x8
95x8 / 95x8
125x8 :]]] / 110x8

Comments:
then i did some concentration curls and reverse preacher curls
i dont have time to write those down. it was just a couple of sets.
work is caling me so i need to go in :/

overall was a good workout. kinda dissapointed i couldnt get the flat bench (45,10,5) up 6 times, but very excited about the 125x8 on the bis

came home and had the other have a scoop of green mag and a smaple pack of syntha-6 protein in skim milk

30 mins later i had left over chicken, wheat noodles and tomato sauce with melted cheese, and i was amazing.

hope this log isnt too hard to read, its my first one :]

but im going to get going to work now. i might put in the numbers that i left out later

have fun reading! leave comments if you feel like it!
thx to all the poeple already reading!

i hope a mod doesnt move me, im sure ill get some great info in this section

[eddied27]

Originally Posted by TNASTYII

haha. maaaan, my parents got my hooked on liver mush. i really cant eat eggs without it haha.

heres my workout today!
ima copy ed and his symbols
tt= this time
lt= last time :]
yes, my chest/shoulders is NOT my strong point haha
LT:
Flat bench- these numbers are the plate weight on each side
25x15(so this is 25, and a 25 on each side), 45x8, 45,10,2.5x6, 45,10x4 drop the 10 45x6, 45x6
TT:
25x15, 25x10, 45,10,5x4, 45x8, 45,2.5x8, 45,10x5


LT:
incline dumbells- 35x8, 35x8, 40x6(my chest was toast)
TT:
40x8, 45x8, 50x8 (chest is feeling GOOD)

LT: cable chest press- 40x8, 50x9, 60x9
TT:
50x9, 70x7.75(haha), 60x7.75(chest is def done now)


LT: shoulder press machine- 20x15, 50x8, 65x8
DB lat raises: 15x8 ss front raises 10x8, second set was the same
TT:
shoulder press machine- 30x12, 50x8, 80x7.5, 80x4(let shoulder pain, first time this has happened)
lat raises: 15x8 ss front raises 10x8, second set the same
SS= super set

LT: bicep preacher curl machine- 65x12 SS tricep machine 80x12
80x8, ss tris 95x8
95x8 ss tri 110x8
110x8 ss tri 95x10
TT: bi precher curl machine- 65x12 ss tri 65x12
80x8 ss tri 80x8
95x8 ss tri 95x8
125x8 :]]] ss tri 110x8

then i did some concentration curls and reverse preacher curls
i dont have time to write those down. it was just a couple of sets.
work is caling me so i need to go in :/

overall was a good workout. kinda dissapointed i couldnt get the flat bench (45,10,5) up 6 times, but very excited about the 125x8 on the bis

came home and had the other have a scoop of green mag and a smaple pack of syntha-6 protein in skim milk

30 mins later i had left over chicken, wheat noodles and tomato sauce with melted cheese, and i was amazing.

hope this log isnt too hard to read, its my first one :]

but im going to get going to work now. i might put in the numbers that i left out later

have fun reading! leave comments if you feel like it!
thx to all the poeple already reading!

i hope a mod doesnt move me, im sure ill get some great info in this section

Excellent work today!

The 2.5 lb. plate MUST be your best friend!

Sent a PM about your set-up......let me know.

Ed

[TNASTYII]

bump, want some comments :]

[eddied27]

Originally Posted by TNASTYII

bump, want some comments :]

Patience young gwasshopper.......patience!

Some of us move a little slower these days!

[justtryn]

Originally Posted by TNASTYII

haha. maaaan, my parents got my hooked on liver mush. i really cant eat eggs without it haha.

heres my workout today!
ima copy ed and his symbols
tt= this time
lt= last time :]
yes, my chest/shoulders is NOT my strong point haha
LT:
Flat bench- these numbers are the plate weight on each side
25x15(so this is 25, and a 25 on each side), 45x8, 45,10,2.5x6, 45,10x4 drop the 10 45x6, 45x6
TT:
25x15, 25x10, 45,10,5x4, 45x8, 45,2.5x8, 45,10x5


LT:
incline dumbells- 35x8, 35x8, 40x6(my chest was toast)
TT:
40x8, 45x8, 50x8 (chest is feeling GOOD)

LT: cable chest press- 40x8, 50x9, 60x9
TT:
50x9, 70x7.75(haha), 60x7.75(chest is def done now)


LT: shoulder press machine- 20x15, 50x8, 65x8
DB lat raises: 15x8 ss front raises 10x8, second set was the same
TT:
shoulder press machine- 30x12, 50x8, 80x7.5, 80x4(let shoulder pain, first time this has happened)
lat raises: 15x8 ss front raises 10x8, second set the same
SS= super set

LT: bicep preacher curl machine- 65x12 SS tricep machine 80x12
80x8, ss tris 95x8
95x8 ss tri 110x8
110x8 ss tri 95x10
TT: bi precher curl machine- 65x12 ss tri 65x12
80x8 ss tri 80x8
95x8 ss tri 95x8
125x8 :]]] ss tri 110x8

then i did some concentration curls and reverse preacher curls
i dont have time to write those down. it was just a couple of sets.
work is caling me so i need to go in :/

overall was a good workout. kinda dissapointed i couldnt get the flat bench (45,10,5) up 6 times, but very excited about the 125x8 on the bis

came home and had the other have a scoop of green mag and a smaple pack of syntha-6 protein in skim milk

30 mins later i had left over chicken, wheat noodles and tomato sauce with melted cheese, and i was amazing.

hope this log isnt too hard to read, its my first one :]

but im going to get going to work now. i might put in the numbers that i left out later

have fun reading! leave comments if you feel like it!
thx to all the poeple already reading!

i hope a mod doesnt move me, im sure ill get some great info in this section

Good to see progression on the weight - that's always good. Sort of an interesting split - chest, shoulders and biceps. How many days a week are you hitting the gym? How about laying out your complete split and we can critique it?

The LIVER is just WRONG man! WRONG!!

[TNASTYII]

well lets see
i do the push day with biceps like today twice a week, 3 days apart

push(chest shoulders bi and tri)(you seen what i do for this)
pull(back)(deadlifts, bent over rows or tbar, latpull)
legs(sqauts with bench under me so i have to touch it b4 coming back up, leg press, and ham curls)
then another push day(since my weakness is pushing)

there are rest days inbetween, sometimes i hit the weights 3 days in a row, but thats when i feel like it. i did it this week, took a day off (did cardio), then the next day did another push, (and cardio tommorow). the order this week was pull, push, legs, rest, push, rest

i listen to my body, and take time off when i need it, and when i feel good, ill go work out.

[jtroster]

I noticed you mentioned shoulder pain. You might be doing too much volume on your push day. Are you doing any rotator exercises to keep your shoulders healthy? Here are some links:

Push-Ups, Face Pulls, and Shrugs ...for Strong and Healthy Shoulders!
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;?id=1426252

Cracking the Rotator Cuff Conundrum
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....le=280rotator2

[Hibiscus09]

Originally Posted by jtroster

I noticed you mentioned shoulder pain. You might be doing too much volume on your push day. Are you doing any rotator exercises to keep your shoulders healthy? Here are some links:

Push-Ups, Face Pulls, and Shrugs ...for Strong and Healthy Shoulders!
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;?id=1426252

Cracking the Rotator Cuff Conundrum
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....le=280rotator2

Thanks for re-posting those, Joel. I must save them into my favorites!! I wish I would remember to start doing those regularly!!

Morning TNasty! If I don't have a spotter, I like squatting with a bench under me also to make sure I go low enough. The workout schedule looks good to me. Be careful with your shoulders.

Happy Friday!!

[justtryn]

Originally Posted by jtroster

I noticed you mentioned shoulder pain. You might be doing too much volume on your push day. Are you doing any rotator exercises to keep your shoulders healthy? Here are some links:

Push-Ups, Face Pulls, and Shrugs ...for Strong and Healthy Shoulders!
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do;?id=1426252

Cracking the Rotator Cuff Conundrum
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....le=280rotator2

Good point, Jt. At 18, you don't want shoulder problems!

[TNASTYII]

yea. haha. i think the shoulders thing is caused by one of three things.
1. i played baseball for many years when i was a kid
2. i use to play golf, and for some reason my left shoulder would always give me problems. when i took a full swing back, it would feel like my left shoulder would pop out of socket or something. i dont play anymore cuz of lifting haha.
3. i could have scoliosis or some type of spine problem. the doc said i could have it when i was younger. im going to get it checked out my next physical(new doctor).
when i look in the mirror it always looks as if my left shoulder is always tense. i like hold my left shoulder a different way than my right unconciously. my left trap and shoulder are bigger than my right, and so is my left leg(quad and ham)is bigger than my right. this could be from all the weight on my left side all my life, or just so happens that i havnt evened out my muscles

but the whole shoulder/trap thing does bother me.
i was just gonna do some cardio today, but im gonna throw in some very light weight stabilizer lifts. thats prob the reason my bench doesnt go up very fast, and chest/shoulders arent strong. thanks for the info!!!

[TNASTYII]

Originally Posted by Hibiscus09

Thanks for re-posting those, Joel. I must save them into my favorites!! I wish I would remember to start doing those regularly!!

Morning TNasty! If I don't have a spotter, I like squatting with a bench under me also to make sure I go low enough. The workout schedule looks good to me. Be careful with your shoulders.

Happy Friday!!

good morning, and happy friday to you too! :]

[TNASTYII]

just got through working out. 30 min moderate intesity cardio on the bike, and before the cardio i did some light weight shoulder stabilzer work. very pleased with the cardio, felt really good

im sure strenthening my stablizers are going to increase my press and bench.

i read in one of those articles that you have to have a strong back for your chest/shoulders to contract againsts. and i think my back is pretty strong for the amount of time ive been workin out. i believe i have a strong pull to push ratio. strong pull genetics i guess haha.

[TNASTYII]

just gonna say one more thing about my push split. i love super setting bis and tris, and i feel as though i need to do tris on chest/shoulder day since they would get hit directly in indirectly. so thats why i do chest/shoulders/arms on the same day. it prob it too much volume for one day.
if i work bis and tris by themselfs, i really blast my tris, and then my bench and press suffers cuz my tris might still be alittle sore.
just wanted to tell you guys and gals why i do that split haha

if anyone has any suggestions on how to split it up otherwise, let me know

[eddied27]

Originally Posted by TNASTYII

just gonna say one more thing about my push split. i love super setting bis and tris, and i feel as though i need to do tris on chest/shoulder day since they would get hit directly in indirectly. so thats why i do chest/shoulders/arms on the same day. it prob it too much volume for one day.
if i work bis and tris by themselfs, i really blast my tris, and then my bench and press suffers cuz my tris might still be alittle sore.
just wanted to tell you guys and gals why i do that split haha

if anyone has any suggestions on how to split it up otherwise, let me know

Superset them on leg day.......just give yourself a rest day after leg day so your bis/tris have had some time to recover for your next push/pull day. This way you're SS them (which you love doing so why stop) and you're minimizing the potential of losing strength on your push/pull work by doing them with chest/shoulders.

BTW......do you want me to re-post your last workout with the template I set up for you or you've got that handled?? Remember......if you copy it from my PM, you have to hit reply and then copy it with all the codes. If you copy it right from the PM itself, it will just show up as plain writing.

Take care......Ed

[TNASTYII]

i have been resting after leg day. leg day sux by itself, the day after is even worse haha.
the problem is even if i do arms on leg day, then rest, the next day i usally do another push..2 days isnt enough time.

i took your template and saved it in word

i dont know i didnt see any codes. pm it to me

[eddied27]

Originally Posted by TNASTYII

i have been resting after leg day. leg day sux by itself, the day after is even worse haha.
the problem is even if i do arms on leg day, then rest, the next day i usally do another push..2 days isnt enough time.

i took your template and saved it in word

i dont know i didnt see any codes. pm it to me

Is this (attached) how it showed up when you copied it into Word???

[Bob45]

Workouts are looking good in here T.

[TNASTYII]

no it didnt. but i saved that one over it :]

so should i just keep doing arms on chest day?

another question, should my arms be growing alittle after i work them out(such as if i measured them the day after)....should they be just a tad bigger? cuz i noticed they only grow every once and a while.

[TNASTYII]

Originally Posted by Bob45

Workouts are looking good in here T.

thanks bob :]

[TNASTYII]

i never thought about this but this caught my eye, and it makes since

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/betteru48.htm

its for biceps, check it out and tell me if its something i could get som results from

o and im gonna do a separate arm day this week.

[eddied27]

Originally Posted by TNASTYII

no it didnt. but i saved that one over it :]

so should i just keep doing arms on chest day?

another question, should my arms be growing alittle after i work them out(such as if i measured them the day after)....should they be just a tad bigger? cuz i noticed they only grow every once and a while.

Do what you feel is best.......you'll need to experiment with a bunch of different things to know what your body responds best to. If you aren't already, I'd take a notebook to the gym, log your workouts but also comment on your workouts. Before you know it, you'll have a ton of your own information right at your fingertips.

In terms of arm or any growth, it takes time, dedication and patience. It will not happen overnight.

Always remember.......it's a marathon, not a sprint!!

Originally Posted by TNASTYII

i never thought about this but this caught my eye, and it makes since

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/betteru48.htm

its for biceps, check it out and tell me if its something i could get som results from

o and im gonna do a separate arm day this week.

Quite frankly.....like I've mentioned to you before.....anything you do at your age will help to grow muscle.

Eat, train and rest!! Simple!!

[TNASTYII]

my arms grow in spurts. and one time it did happen overnight. my left arm has always been smaller and grew half and inch in one night. it was amazed. thats was just to catch it up to the right arm though. left tricep is stronger, right bi is stronger.

i already keep a log when i go. have to keep track of weights and reps or ill forget