What is the history/story behind Controlled Labs?

**Quintis Vindex** · 11-03-2005, 03:19 PM

They seem to be very popular, and they seem to be selling quite well on BB.COM, especially when you take into account the size of the competition.

Not being a real supplement "junky" (use whey, creatine, fish caps, multi,, not the most exciting stuff), I don't know an awful lot about these issues. But from what I gather CL seems to offer some interesting and reasonably priced products that many people on this board SWEAR by.

Could not find much background on this company on their website, can someone fill me in?

**sean4104** · 11-03-2005, 05:13 PM

im not really sure as to why you are so interested in the background, im not really sure that it matters. regardless, you can be sure that these products are of high quality.

i believe they are the only company with a 105% money back guarantee. email PU, he would know about their history im sure.

**DejaBlue55** · 11-03-2005, 05:19 PM

Here's a quick fill-in about CL:

White Blood will give you the most wicked awesome pumps you have ever experiences, besides AAS, which I don't know about.

**Rigor** · 11-03-2005, 05:23 PM

hi quintin

if you find stories of protein. i will like to read it. thank you

**pu12en12g** · 11-03-2005, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Quintis Vindex

They seem to be very popular, and they seem to be selling quite well on BB.COM, especially when you take into account the size of the competition.

Not being a real supplement "junky" (use whey, creatine, fish caps, multi,, not the most exciting stuff), I don't know an awful lot about these issues. But from what I gather CL seems to offer some interesting and reasonably priced products that many people on this board SWEAR by.

Could not find much background on this company on their website, can someone fill me in?

Good question. I'm only a consultant / rep, but I can tell you that while Controlled Labs is relatively new to the game.... we came to win the game. We formulate cost effective supplements, and most consider Green Bulge™ and White Blood™ to be our "Star" players.

I personally have a Military / Information Technology background, and I've been interested in supplements and herbs for longer than I've actually been lifting.

Here is my own personal background:

The war against genetics.. the battle lines are drawn and you have to choose a side. There is no draft, and you have no choice... we are all active duty... we are all in the fight OF our lives... FOR our lives... every day.

The teenager is sitting on the bench wondering why all his friends are bigger, taller, and faster. The "skinny dude" secretly wonders what he's doing wrong.. he's gaining strength, but not weight. Your overweight sister has tried all the fad diets, has no appetite, and hardly eats a thing, yet she continues to gain fat...she's depressed and out of ideas. Your friend asks you for advice because every time he increases his calories, he gains fat, not muscle. Your grandfather works hard all his life to save for retirement, only to watch his body fall apart as soon as he has any free time... to ENJOY life.

My story really begins at age 19, when I decided to join the military. I was 6ft tall and 130lbs on a full stomach, and my girlfriend never complained about me being skinny, in fact the main thing that bothered me about being skinny, was that my clothes would never fit (that's how TINY I was). I had a decent appetite as a child, but I have been on my own since the age of 15, and supporting myself since the age of 16, so buying my own food probably had alot to do with it. Looking at the family album one day, I saw a photo of my dad from the 80's and he couldn't have been over 6ft 140lbs... not healthy at all... but happy. As all my cousins grew taller AND bigger, I just remained tiny and weak. I was pretty active... rollerblading, biking, etc.. but it was around this time that it occured to me, that I had ****ty genetics.

I realized that I was going to have to get in shape for bootcamp, and I was pretty freaked out about it. I almost didn't make it in, due to almost being under the minimum weight for my height. So I started doing pushups like crazy... I never considered joining a gym, because I knew they cost money. I liked the feeling of working out, and I had no real problems during bootcamp (with the exception of some dizziness).

I got out of bootcamp at around 145lbs, and my girlfriend at the time loved the gains ... I'm sure that this had an affect on my subconscious mind, because from that point on I was more aware of how my stomach / abs looked. Of course, I still didn't want to "waste" my free time and money by going to the gym and "getting my muscles all sore and stuff". So I was stationed in San Diego, and all I really did for fitness was sex, pushups, and basketball. It never occured to me to watch what I was eating, but my food intake in the military was FAR better than in the past... I hit 160lbs.. and my focus stayed on my abs.. I tried some whey protein one time... it made me puke.. so "never again" I told myself. I remember one day we came back from a deployment, and my friend gave me some Yohimbe pills. He said my girl would be happy later. Holy ****... it was awesome... this is when my interest in herbs really started, and my friends and I recreationally tried stupid stuff like Eph 833 and Eph 1000... some of the Ephedra we tried didn't even have labels.. and we would go clubbing in Tijuana for 9-10 hours straight, and have plenty of energy for work the next morning !

After I got out of the military, I hit 175lb @ age 23 or 24...BUT it was NOT a lean 175lb... like many guys, I had "let myself go" during a 4 year relationship. I started actually lifting weights at least once a week and eating "right". It was around this time that I started taking whey protein, and I hit 190lb @ age 25... can we say... newbie gains ?

I was stuck at what I thought was a 190lb "plateau" for a while, and I tried things like HMB, CellTech, and Myoplex Deluxe. I tried the ABCDE diet, and I was lucky enough to try a supplement from Get Diesel Nutrition called Extreme NOS Precursor, that changed my outlook on supplements. I saw noticable changes in my body on a weekly basis, and it was easy to see / notice the growth because I was pretty lean. I switched from Myoplex Deluxe to Optimum Whey 100% Chocolate, and discovered raw oats as a ideal (and CHEAP) carb source..... this basically changed my life... I saw lean gains like I had never seen before, and soon I started Squatting, Deadlifting, and BB Benching. It was around this time that I tried what I saw as a new weapon in the war... a standalone cycle of Ergopharm 6-OXO to boost my testosterone levels... I saw strength gains, but couldn't stand the side effects... it was terrible... and I'm pissed that I wasted my $$$

I hit 225lb @ age 26, and then I made one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made.. I decided to do a "cutting phase" because my girlfriend from San Diego was coming to visit... I lost 20 lbs.. WAYY too fast. My strength went to hell too.. obviously my priorities were ****ed. During this time, I experimented with supplements, searching for the next "yohimbe" or "ephedra".. I tried things like MACA, Ginseng, ALA, NAC, 6-OXO, ALCAR, Tyrosine, Caffeine, Yohimbine HCL....

I started bulking again... and more and more, I started to focus on my routine and intensity... I was gaining mass, but not much strength... my gains seemed to be going to my stomach ! ! My libido was ****ed and I couldn't sleep ! What was wrong ? My testosterone levels initially came back in the 200 range, and slowly increased back up to the 500 range.

I hit 250lb @ age 27... during that time I was VERY fortunate to try supplements from Get Diesel Nutrition, Controlled Labs, Black Star Labs, Omega Sports, Myochem, Molecular Nutrition, Substance, Syntrax, MAN Sports, LegalGear, and others.. I was recently certified as a personal trainer, and I was offered a part-time position as a consultant and product rep for Controlled Labs... so today I'm holding steady at about 248lbs, and just like any other day... the war against genetics starts here... the war against genetics starts now !

**pu12en12g** · 11-03-2005, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by sean4104

i believe they are the only company with a 105% money back guarantee

As far as I know... this is correct.

<img src="http://controlledlabs.com/skin1/images/guarantee.gif">

**Quintis Vindex** · 11-03-2005, 05:43 PM

Good read.

After my current supply of Creatine runs out I suspect that I will incorporate Green Bulge� and White Blood �, possibly even Red Acid � as I'm currently cutting.

pu12en12g if you can gather, at your leisure, any additional information about the Founders and Owners/Operators of this company, with some information as to its size (number of employees, etc), I would appreciate it. Of course if thats too much to ask I understand.

-Quintis

**xGhostinGx** · 11-03-2005, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Quintis Vindex

Could not find much background on this company on their website, can someone fill me in?

Yes. Their popularity comes from Tank being a former midget pro wrestler. I got a pic of Tank in the ring tauting people. He even signed an 8x10 for me.

**pu12en12g** · 11-03-2005, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by xGhostinGx

Yes. Their popularity comes from Tank being a former midget pro wrestler. I got a pic of Tank in the ring tauting people. He even signed an 8x10 for me.

That was right before he started rapping ! Rare photo indeed !

j/k

**xGhostinGx** · 11-03-2005, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

That was right before he started rapping ! Rare photo indeed !

j/k

I didnt want to bring it up but ya, he did rap and I got a photo of that too.

**nick912** · 11-03-2005, 06:09 PM

PT's story made me cry *sniffle* *sniffle*

But then the pics of Tank made me happy again..! WEEE

**Seroph4x** · 11-03-2005, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Rigor

hi quintin

if you find stories of protein. i will like to read it. thank you

wtf you talking about

**Cynical_Simian** · 11-03-2005, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Seroph4x

wtf you talking about

Almost makes you miss the creative trolls like HOLLA BACK!, huh?

**Giode** · 11-03-2005, 07:39 PM

Great story pu12!

Kind of makes you realize that with hard work anything is possible.

Aside from being a Controlled Labs board rep, have you considered doing something in supps as a career?

**laz** · 11-03-2005, 07:44 PM

Hey PU..you said in ur post that the gains seemed to be going to your stomach. What did u do to change that???? My body does the same thing so i was wondering how you changed your attack on it!

**pu12en12g** · 11-03-2005, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by laz

Hey PU..you said in ur post that the gains seemed to be going to your stomach. What did u do to change that????

I didn't..

I just decided to all-out-bulk until I hit around 260lbs

**pu12en12g** · 11-03-2005, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Giode

Great story pu12!

Kind of makes you realize that with hard work anything is possible.

Aside from being a Controlled Labs board rep, have you considered doing something in supps as a career?

Not really... but I definately enjoy being involved. One of the things I enjoy the most, is suggestions from people on what to improve in the industry... for example I got some suggestions the other day from a board member overseas. He took his OWN time to make a suggestion on how we can enhance a upcoming product (with complete references)... things like that are appreciated AND rewarded.

**mogreen** · 11-03-2005, 10:12 PM

pu12en12g, your story was very inspirational. I'm 5'6" 125lb and thought that I got the shorter end of the stick.

**laz** · 11-04-2005, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

I didn't..

I just decided to all-out-bulk until I hit around 260lbs

So then how did u lose the gut and maintain a lean 248??

**pu12en12g** · 11-04-2005, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by laz

So then how did u lose the gut and maintain a lean 248??

I really don't consider myself lean. I consider 10% and under "lean"

**laz** · 11-04-2005, 10:16 AM

Yah but one of your threads u posted pics of your transformation and u still had abs.

**pu12en12g** · 11-04-2005, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by laz

Yah but one of your threads u posted pics of your transformation and u still had abs.

This should answer your question:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=608116

**laz** · 11-04-2005, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

This should answer your question:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=608116

thanks

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