Ecto get's Activate™d log

pu12en12g · 11-03-2005, 03:34 AM

Intro:

The war against genetics.. the battle lines are drawn and you have to choose a side. There is no draft, and you have no choice... we are all active duty... we are all in the fight OF our lives... FOR our lives... every day.

The teenager is sitting on the bench wondering why all his friends are bigger, taller, and faster. The "skinny dude" secretly wonders what he's doing wrong.. he's gaining strength, but not weight. Your overweight sister has tried all the fad diets, has no appetite, and hardly eats a thing, yet she continues to gain fat...she's depressed and out of ideas. Your friend asks you for advice because every time he increases his calories, he gains fat, not muscle. Your grandfather works hard all his life to save for retirement, only to watch his body fall apart as soon as he has any free time... to ENJOY life.

My story really begins at age 19, when I decided to join the military. I was 6ft tall and 130lbs on a full stomach, and my girlfriend never complained about me being skinny, in fact the main thing that bothered me about being skinny, was that my clothes would never fit (that's how TINY I was). I had a decent appetite as a child, but I have been on my own since the age of 15, and supporting myself since the age of 16, so buying my own food probably had alot to do with it. Looking at the family album one day, I saw a photo of my dad from the 80's and he couldn't have been over 6ft 140lbs... not healthy at all... but happy. As all my cousins grew taller AND bigger, I just remained tiny and weak. I was pretty active... rollerblading, biking, etc.. but it was around this time that it occured to me, that I had ****ty genetics.

I realized that I was going to have to get in shape for bootcamp, and I was pretty freaked out about it. I almost didn't make it in, due to almost being under the minimum weight for my height. So I started doing pushups like crazy... I never considered joining a gym, because I knew they cost money. I liked the feeling of working out, and I had no real problems during bootcamp (with the exception of some dizziness).

I got out of bootcamp at around 145lbs, and my girlfriend at the time loved the gains ... I'm sure that this had an affect on my subconscious mind, because from that point on I was more aware of how my stomach / abs looked. Of course, I still didn't want to "waste" my free time and money by going to the gym and "getting my muscles all sore and stuff". So I was stationed in San Diego, and all I really did for fitness was sex, pushups, and basketball. It never occured to me to watch what I was eating, but my food intake in the military was FAR better than in the past... I hit 160lbs.. and my focus stayed on my abs.. I tried some whey protein one time... it made me puke.. so "never again" I told myself. I remember one day we came back from a deployment, and my friend gave me some Yohimbe pills. He said my girl would be happy later. Holy ****... it was awesome... this is when my interest in herbs really started, and my friends and I recreationally tried stupid stuff like Eph 833 and Eph 1000... some of the Ephedra we tried didn't even have labels.. and we would go clubbing in Tijuana for 9-10 hours straight, and have plenty of energy for work the next morning !

After I got out of the military, I hit 175lb @ age 23 or 24...BUT it was NOT a lean 175lb... like many guys, I had "let myself go" during a 4 year relationship. I started actually lifting weights at least once a week and eating "right". It was around this time that I started taking whey protein, and I hit 190lb @ age 25... can we say... newbie gains ?

I was stuck at what I thought was a 190lb "plateau" for a while, and I tried things like HMB, CellTech, and Myoplex Deluxe. I tried the ABCDE diet, and I was lucky enough to try a supplement from Get Diesel Nutrition called Extreme NOS Precursor, that changed my outlook on supplements. I saw noticable changes in my body on a weekly basis, and it was easy to see / notice the growth because I was pretty lean. I switched from Myoplex Deluxe to Optimum Whey 100% Chocolate, and discovered raw oats as a ideal (and CHEAP) carb source..... this basically changed my life... I saw lean gains like I had never seen before, and soon I started Squatting, Deadlifting, and BB Benching. It was around this time that I tried what I saw as a new weapon in the war... a standalone cycle of Ergopharm 6-OXO to boost my testosterone levels... I saw strength gains, but couldn't stand the side effects... it was terrible... and I'm pissed that I wasted my $$$

I hit 225lb @ age 26, and then I made one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made.. I decided to do a "cutting phase" because my girlfriend from San Diego was coming to visit... I lost 20 lbs.. WAYY too fast. My strength went to hell too.. obviously my priorities were ****ed. During this time, I experimented with supplements, searching for the next "yohimbe" or "ephedra".. I tried things like MACA, Ginseng, ALA, NAC, 6-OXO, ALCAR, Tyrosine, Caffeine, Yohimbine HCL....

I started bulking again... and more and more, I started to focus on my routine and intensity... I was gaining mass, but not much strength... my gains seemed to be going to my stomach ! ! My libido was ****ed and I couldn't sleep ! What was wrong ? My testosterone levels initially came back in the 200 range, and slowly increased back up to the 500 range.

I hit 250lb @ age 27... during that time I was VERY fortunate to try supplements from Get Diesel Nutrition, Controlled Labs, Black Star Labs, Omega Sports, Myochem, Molecular Nutrition, Substance, Syntrax, MAN Sports, LegalGear, and others.. I was recently certified as a personal trainer, and I was offered a part-time position as a consultant and product rep for Controlled Labs... so today I'm holding steady at about 248lbs, and just like any other day... the war against genetics starts here... the war against genetics starts now....it's time to get Activate™d....

pu12en12g · 11-03-2005, 03:37 AM

Supplement Facts:

Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement, take four servings evenly spread out
throughout the day.

Warning: Women and children should not use this product. Women who are pregnant or nursing should not use any nettle product (nettle can alter the menstrual cycle).

Ingredients: Urtica dioica standardized to 70% Divanil™.

Other Ingredients: Maltodextrin, Gelatin, Silicon Dioxide and Magnesium Stearate.

ActivaTe™ harnesses Divanil™, an extract of stinging nettle root, to increase muscle mass and strength, and decrease bodyfat in healthy men. Most of your circulating testosterone is bound or inactive. A plasma glycoprotein called Sex-Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) binds up most of your testosterone so that it cannot exert any anabolic effect. ActivaTe™ knocks outs SHBG allowing your own testosterone to be free—and build serious muscle.

Summary:

The goal of this log, is to examine the results of Designer Supps - Activate™, for a 248lb individual that has been at a plateau for around a month, with a absolute minimum of other supplementation, and with no other changes to nutrition or routine. The final result / gains will be a objective summary of the absolute minimum someone can expect from this supplement, without"stacking", "hype", or "marketing".

Raising the bar:

It's time to set a new standard for supplement logs and reviews, for everyone's benefit. This log was NOT created to entertain you or sell you a product, it was not created for you to post your protein fart jokes, it was created to track and report progress. Make no mistake about it... sacrifices are made when doing a objective and honest review. How can someone accept a free product from Company X one day, and then go out and get trashed the next, and report.. "no gains". How can someone start 3 supplements on the same day, and determine if one of them is working ?

Make no mistake about it, there is no excuse for my current plateau to begin with, and if I say this product works... you will KNOW that this product works.

Indicators:

So.. what are some signs of a higher testosterone level ?

Primary:
Strength
Libido / spontaneous erections
Lean gains
Appetite

Secondary:
Intensity
Recovery
Feeling of wellbeing / Aggression / Sleep
Abdominal Bodyfat / Measurements
Overall Bodyfat %

pu12en12g · 11-03-2005, 03:38 AM

Current stats

Age: 27
Sex: Male
Height: 6ft
Weight: 248
Bodytype: Ecto

"Before" measurements:

Neck: 16.5
Chest: 46.25
Bi unflexed: 17
Bi flexed: 17.75
Forearms: 13.75
Waist: 36.5
Quads: 26.5
Calves: 17.75

1 Rep Max (1RM):

Bench: 305
Deadlift: 355
Squat: 335

Prohormone/Steroid use:

None. I did a few clean cycles of 6-OXO, which overwhelmingly is NOT considered a PH/PS/Steroid. The cycles were cut short due to unpleasant side effects around week 2-3.

Training experience:

In the last 3+ years I went from a out-of-shape 175lbs to a leaner 250lbs.

I've tried 5x5 training and liked it
I've tried MAX-OT and liked it
I've attempted Conjugated Periodization and didn't enjoy it

I made a HUGE mistake last year when I did a cutting phase from 225lbs to 205lbs, but I have since bulked back up, and broke through a 220-225lb plateau.

Training Schedule/Protocol:

5 days a week, with a 4 x 8-12 rep range. Workouts usually last around 1.5 hours.

Sun: Legs
Mon: Off
Tue: Chest / Back
Wed: Legs
Thu: Off
Fri: Chest
Sat: Back

Note: This is simply a "basic" outline that I follow.

Cardio Schedule/Protocol:

Currently 3 days a week, moderate intensity 30-60mins unless otherwise noted.

Current supplements:

Designer Supps - Activate
Controlled Labs - Green Bulge preworkout
Creapure / CEE postworkout
Black Star Labs - Whey Protein Concentrate
Multivitamin
Optimum Nutrition - Fishoil

"Budget" Diet / Macros:

Daily Constants (majority of my daily calories, making my daily totals more consistent):

Steel Cut Oats______Cals:2400__Fat:32__Carbs:400__Protein:64
1 Gallon Milk________Cals:1760__Fat:40__Carbs:208__Protein: 128
Whey Protein_______Cals:660___Fat:9___Carbs:18___Protei n:138
Bread, whole wheat__Cals:472___Fat:8___Carbs:89___Protein:19
Macaroni salad______Cals:269___Fat:9___Carbs:43___Protein:6

Typical Grocery List:
- Steel Cut oats
- Whole Grain Wheat Bread
- Skim milk
- Lean Ground Beef
- Frozen boneless Chicken breast
- Frozen Pizza
- 32oz Dupont Lowfat Yogurts
- Tuna
- Rice
- 99% fat free turkey breast
- Lean Honey Ham
- Cottage Cheese
- Tomato
- Mixed Sprouts
- Swiss and American cheese
- Potato salad
- Macaroni salad
- Tuna Helper
- Hamburger Helper
- Italian Meatballs
- Pasta / Sauce
- Manwich (Sloppy Joe mix)
- Celery
- Mrs dash seasoning
- Eggs
- Almonds
- Peanuts
- Peanut butter

Prescription/Recreational drugs: None

Supplement history:

I respond fairly well to creatine, and in the past I have tried Green Bulge, MAN Clout, Omega Thunder, NOS Ether, Swole V2, BSL Kre-alkalyn, Phosphagen, Creapure, Bulk CEE, and many other creatine products.

I respond very well to Cell Volumizers, and in the past I have used White Blood, NOS XXX, Extreme NOS Precursor, L-Arginine powder, L-Arginine Pyroglutamate Powder, L-Citrulline Powder, Ergopharm Stamino2, Carnosine, Glycerine, Ribose, Taurine, Twinlab Male Fuel, Syntrax Nitrous

I respond fairly well to stimulants/thermogenics, and in the past I have used Ready4War, Diesel Fuel Reloaded, Powertrain, ECY Stack, Tyrosine, Green Tea Extract, Nicotine 1mg Gum, Caffeine, EPH 833, EPH 1000, Ripped Fuel, Y-HCL on it's own.

Progress Photos (not current):

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/130-243.jpg

Other logs / reviews I have done:

Whey Protein:

Syntrax Nectar - Fuzzy Navel
Syntrax Nectar - Roadside Lemonade
Syntrax Nectar - Apple Ecstacy
Syntrax Nectar - Crystal Sky
Syntrax - Isomatrix Reloaded
Syntrax Matrix - Perfect Chocolate
Molecular Nutrition - Whey Fruity
All The Whey - Orange
All The Whey - Chocolate
All The Whey - Vanilla
All The Whey - Banana
Optimum Nutrition - Anabolic Milk Protein
Optimum Nutrition - Vanilla Ice Cream
Optimum Nutrition 100% - Vanilla
Dymatize - Elite Whey (Berry Blast)
Dymatize - Elite Whey (Butter Cream Toffee)
Dymatize - Orange Dreamsicle
Cytosport - Cytogainer - Cookies n Cream
Instone - Smooth Chocolate
Substance WPI - Grape
Substance WPI - Watermelon (Original Version)
Substance WPI - Watermelon (New and Improved version)
Substance WPI - Vanilla Bean
Black Star Labs - Watermelon Isolate
Black Star Labs - Chocolate (WPC)
Black Star Labs - Orange (WPC)
Black Star Labs - Fruit Punch (WPC)

Cell volumizers:

Controlled Labs - White Blood / Green Bulge Stack
NOW Foods 100% Pure Glycerine
Omega Sports Cre-Ethyl Thunder
Man - Clout
Get Diesel Nutrition - NOS Ether
Syntrax - Swole V2
Ergopharm - Stamino2

Nitric Oxide precursors:

Controlled Labs - White Blood / Green Bulge Stack
Get Diesel Nutrition - Extreme NOS Precursor
Get Diesel Nutrition - NOS XXX
Cnidium

Fatloss / Thermogenics / Stimulants / Energy:

Myochem - Throttle 1400x
Get Diesel Nutrition - READY4WAR
KAL Fishoil
Get Diesel Nutrition - Diesel Fuel
LegalGear - Powertrain
Scivation - Neurostim / Neurostim C
Omega Sports - Powerjolt vs. Powerjolt V2
Epic Nutrition - 5-Tetra
Nutraceutics - ProEndorphin

EAA's / BCAA's:

Optimum Nutrition - Superior Amino 2222
Universal - Animal NitroG
Black Star Labs - NitroJet
Xtreme Formulations ICE

Other / Specialized:

Legal Gear - Dermasize
Molecular Nutrition - X-Factor
Ergopharm - 6OXO (standalone)

pu12en12g · 11-03-2005, 03:49 AM

Day 1: Chest / Back / Arms
Cals: 5000

Dosing:

5 pills on a mostly empty stomach
5 pills with food
5 pills on a mostly empty stomach
5 pills with food

Cardio:

None

Notes:

The last few days have been pretty stressful, for reasons that I won't be discussing. Stress is one of those important variables, but not a big deal because the log just started. It should be noted that my bottle of Activate™ is "Activate Beta". Anyways, my current Bench 1RM is a very shaky 305.. and it should be noted that I don't train for strength, but I consider 1RM to be a good primary indicator. Diet was lacking today, and preworkout nutrition was not optimal.

"Before" photos:
To be updated later

uhockey · 11-03-2005, 04:00 AM

Will follow, my beef certainly is not with you, and I wish you the best of gains on this run.......

dtrain13 · 11-03-2005, 04:05 AM

Good luck PT. I have no doubt you will give this an honest review despite the goings on at the moment. This seems to be a kick ass product. One that I am excited to try myself.

Robboe · 11-03-2005, 04:48 AM

Wow. Detail.

This is gonna be good!

40-Yard Dash_2 · 11-03-2005, 05:02 AM

Nice intro, and we look forward to seeing where this log takes you.

krustster · 11-03-2005, 08:24 AM

Lol personally I'm just in it for the "before" pics

Mr. Aries · 11-03-2005, 10:04 AM

damn.. I was hoping you would test this product bro.. I wanted to get this but at a high bodyweight like ours, I wasn't sure about the dosage.. I guess you'll confirm it for me with this log.. THanks!

Uber-neggR · 11-03-2005, 10:17 AM

wow, strong log.
Definately suscribing.

Good luck, because good luck to you means good luck to me (when I buy it).

dtrain13 · 11-03-2005, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krustster

Lol personally I'm just in it for the "before" pics

LOL....

uhockey · 11-03-2005, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Aries

damn.. I was hoping you would test this product bro.. I wanted to get this but at a high bodyweight like ours, I wasn't sure about the dosage.. I guess you'll confirm it for me with this log.. THanks!

Free testosterone has little to do with bodyweight, actually.

TENACIOUS · 11-03-2005, 04:46 PM

subcribe........

Bammy · 11-03-2005, 05:03 PM

Excellent log setup, good luck.

40-Yard Dash_2 · 11-03-2005, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bammy

Excellent log setup, good luck.

Thank you, I taught him everything he knows.

C-Los 21 · 11-03-2005, 05:37 PM

Definetely looking forward to the outcome of your log pu12, hope you make the best of it and those pices better be crystal clear

.
Best of Luck,
C-Los

CHUCK DIESEL · 11-03-2005, 05:46 PM

sub.

Dosquito · 11-03-2005, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C-Los 21

Definetely looking forward to the outcome of your log pu12, hope you make the best of it and those pices better be crystal clear

.
Best of Luck,
C-Los

Yeah, this log better be in the clear, if you know what I mean.

BiggJohn · 11-04-2005, 08:20 AM

scribe

pu12en12g · 11-04-2005, 08:28 AM

Day 2: Off
Cals: 5500

Dosing:

5 pills with food
5 pills with food
5 pills with food
5 pills on a mostly empty stomach

Before photo:

I think I'm going to try and use a tripod for my leg shots.. so stay tuned

Notes: Not hitting my target cal intake so far today due to taking a nap... but I still have time tonight... I was feeling very hyper earlier... and then unusually tired.. and THEN after taking a nap, I feel very rested. Could be unrelated.

40-Yard Dash_2 · 11-04-2005, 08:31 AM

Okay, so he really is big. I don't know, I just kinda thought that he thought he was big. Impressive for an, Ecto!

MsDominatus · 11-04-2005, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Day 2:

Before photo:

I think I'm going to try and use a tripod for my leg shots.. so stay tuned

ahem. Uhm, I didn't realize you were so broad. I think you forgot to put your boxers on (why do guys do this?!?!).

Good luck with the ActivaTe, i'm subscribing.

uhockey · 11-04-2005, 08:44 AM

I must admit, that is extremely impressive for an all-natural ecto. Best of luck with this product PU12, even if we haven't agreed on some things recently, you truly are an impressive and invaluable member to this board and community.

pu12en12g · 11-04-2005, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsDominatus

ahem. Uhm, I didn't realize you were so broad. I think you forgot to put your boxers on (why do guys do this?!?!).

ROFLZ !! I have a big ass

... no REALLY.. I do.. and XL / XXL boxers do fit.. except for around my quads it's a "double whammy" of ass and quads that cause a problem

long story short.. I only wear boxers with jeans

inprogress2 · 11-04-2005, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Day 2:

Before photo:

I think I'm going to try and use a tripod for my leg shots.. so stay tuned

ha ha look @ u pu

dam bro thats impressive i wanna see the real b4 pics

MsDominatus · 11-04-2005, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

ROFLZ !! I have a big ass

... no REALLY.. I do.. and XL / XXL boxers do fit.. except for around my quads it's a "double whammy" of ass and quads that cause a problem

long story short.. I only wear boxers with jeans

Good to know.

We have your kind at my gym and i've always wondered what the benefit to going commando was other than to make life interesting. Yeah i'd hate that restriction around my quads. Try boxer briefs! This is one of those moments where being a chick isn't half bad. :P

chlaxman · 11-04-2005, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Day 2:

Before photo:

I think I'm going to try and use a tripod for my leg shots.. so stay tuned

That's some mighty good size there

Very impressive. Good luck.

turbos10 · 11-04-2005, 09:17 AM

Subscibed.

Hey PT, with all the logs you are following you have to appreciate good pics. Is there some way you could get a more clear pic. I just think it might show the changes better.

Good Luck!

pu12en12g · 11-04-2005, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbos10

Subscibed.

Hey PT, with all the logs you are following you have to appreciate good pics. Is there some way you could get a more clear pic. I just think it might show the changes better.

Good Luck!

Yeah I'm gonna work on that later with the tripod... I'll see what I can do. Back / leg photos too.