Simple question does heat destroy whey protein.
I'm rather fond of porridge and was wondering if throwing in a couple of scoops of whey and then cooking it will damage the structure of the protein?
Regards,
Nick
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Thread: Does heat destroy whey?
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10-29-2005, 03:44 AM #1
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10-29-2005, 04:40 AM #3
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10-29-2005, 05:46 AM #4
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10-29-2005, 07:52 AM #5Originally Posted by uber_buff
Cooking at a lower temperature may help reduce the effects of the denaturing, but whey protein is not very stable on it's own, and will denature quickly. I'd be more concerned with the texture of your baking, rather than the effects of heating whey.
TinymanI remember being relevant.
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10-29-2005, 08:13 AM #6
Milk properties/proteins are heat sensitive, particularly at temperatures above 70 C/158 F, so if you want to add them to your oats or other hot foods do it right before eating them. You can also use any No-Bake recipe you like, just add in the protein powder amount you desire, for example:
No-Bake Cheese Cake:
1 Cup boiling water
1/2 -1 package (1/4 ounce size) Unflavored Gelatin
1/8-1/4 Cup Splenda (you can add 1/8, taste the filling then adjust)
1 Cup Lowfat Cottage Cheese
1 Cup fresh fruit pieces, low-fat caramel sauce or lowfat chocolate sauce
4-6 scoops of protein powder
1 (9 inch) low fat graham cracker pie crust
Stir boiling water into gelatin in small bowl 2 to 3 minutes or until completely dissolved; cool below 140 F. Pour into blender container. Add cottage cheese and protein powder; cover. Blend until smooth; pour over crust.
Refrigerate 1 hour or until set. Arrange fruit on top of cheesecake or pour sauce over individual slices when served. Garnish with thawed fat-free whipped topping.
No Bake Oatmeal Cookies:
2 cups Splenda
4 tablespoons cocoa powder
1 teaspoon vanilla
2/3 cup milk
3/4-1 cup peanut butter
6-8 scoops protein powder
3 cups oats
Bring the first 4 ingredients to a boil and remove from heat and let coo to 140. Add peanut butter, protein powder and oats; mix well. Drop by teaspoonfuls onto waxed paper. Let cool until set.
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10-29-2005, 03:36 PM #7Originally Posted by TinyMan
ive only been working out for a few months and im only just getting into all the bulking diet stuff and i find it hard to eat heaps of food so i need these calorie dense cookies or barssupps
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10-29-2005, 05:09 PM #8Originally Posted by TinyMan
Denaturation can have many detrimental side effects. In biological systems, denatured proteins can result in illness or even death. In fact protein denaturation is linked to many diseases such as prion encephalopathies, Alzheimer's disease and dementias.
As for the stiffening, that's the result of the denatured proteins. It's gelling like pudding or jello because it's denatured. I think we all know how bio-available jello is compared to protein powder .
The DocI do not have an M.D. or a Ph.D., Doc is a nickname, please don't ask me about your personal itching.
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10-29-2005, 05:12 PM #9
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11-28-2005, 09:11 AM #10
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11-28-2005, 09:54 AM #11Originally Posted by The Doc~ 01/01/02 ~
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03-26-2011, 08:02 AM #12
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03-26-2011, 08:41 AM #13
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03-26-2011, 08:42 AM #14
It doesn't really matter what happens to the protein structure. During digestion you have peptidases that break the proteins down into amino acids and they get taken up in the intestine and then enter the bloodstream. Proteins generally don't make it into the bloodstream. If they did they could trigger an immune reaction.
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07-20-2015, 09:01 PM #24
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07-20-2015, 09:31 PM #25
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07-21-2015, 01:27 PM #26
Enzymes are special proteins which regulate biological processes. They act as keys to biological locks opening and shutting them down when needed. So when the key gets broken or twisted, those processes are thrown in disarray ==> diseases and disorders. But if you are interested in just melting down the key to use its iron, then it does not matter if the key is broken/twisted i.e denatured.
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07-21-2015, 01:33 PM #27
The Doc has his doctorate in bro science.
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07-21-2015, 01:51 PM #28
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07-21-2015, 05:30 PM #29
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07-21-2015, 07:06 PM #30
There is a difference between dietary protein and proteins that are product from translation of and expression from genetic material. Let me sum it up:
- denatured proteins in your cells that make up the structure and function of human biology = potentially harmful.
- denatured protein that make up my meal = delicious
Unless there is a serious problem with your GI tract you are not absorbing protein, denatured or otherwise. Your body breaks protein down to the amino acids which they are made of in the stomach by heat, acid, and the action of enzymes and those amino acids are absorbed in the small intestine.
Its obviously way more complicated than that. Point is, heating whey and other proteins is fine. We've been doing it since before the time of writing.A Powerlifting, Basketball Playing, Nutritionist
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